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DarkJedi 10-01-2008 11:36 AM

My CCbill programs stats: why do I feel like being assfucked? [pic]
 
http://mrskin-online.com/ccbill.jpg

:Buck:

nation-x 10-01-2008 11:39 AM

wow... you have shitty traffic

DarkJedi 10-01-2008 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 14841085)
wow... you have shitty traffic

Maybe it's not the traffic that is shitty?

:helpme

BVF 10-01-2008 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 14841085)
wow... you have shitty traffic

maybe shitty yet a decent amount.

BVF 10-01-2008 11:43 AM

Holy shit, I was only looking at the raw hits.....Those ratios are insane!

woj 10-01-2008 11:45 AM

0 in 36k?! that can't possibly be normal clicked traffic, are you redirecting 404 traffic to them or something?

Fresh 10-01-2008 11:46 AM

Davey,

Dont mean to come off spammy but if you wanna try something different, TubeClicks might be your thing.

We are the first tube affiliate program and run a 100% legal tube site called Gutter.com. You push your traffic to Gutter.com and collect checks directly from 18 industry leading sponsors that are working with us. You keep 100% of the commissions you make from these 3rd party sponsors, we dont take a piece of the pie or skim your traffic. Its just like having your own tube site with all the work already done for you :)

Let me know if you wanna give it a shot, Ill be happy to help you out

sortie 10-01-2008 11:47 AM

All I can say is everything looks normal based on what I'm getting everywhere.

crockett 10-01-2008 11:49 AM

What kind of traffic are you sending? Also what non ccbill programs can you compare this too while using the same traffic?

DarkJedi 10-01-2008 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 14841119)
0 in 36k?! that can't possibly be normal clicked traffic, are you redirecting 404 traffic to them or something?

All of that is clicked traffic. And not from CJs either.

:disgust

Cyndalie 10-01-2008 11:53 AM

Ouch. :(

Sadly you are not alone.

seeandsee 10-01-2008 11:53 AM

Really sucky ratios!

Jens Van Assterdam 10-01-2008 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 14841133)
All I can say is everything looks normal based on what I'm getting everywhere.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Scary stats DJ :Oh crap
Hope your "normal" stats look better then this.. :winkwink:

DarkJedi 10-01-2008 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 14841140)
What kind of traffic are you sending? Also what non ccbill programs can you compare this too while using the same traffic?

Most of them are "solo girls" programs.

We all know the integrity of those (being run by a single webmaster, models running away after a few months of work, etc.)

That's why they choose ccbill - cause it's easy to set up.


Big operation programs (on Nats) are doing okay.

JamesK 10-01-2008 11:55 AM

Show your other stats so we can compare

foghead 10-01-2008 11:57 AM

For starters i would drop the 0:29k and 0:36k in an instant.:2 cents:

Matyko 10-01-2008 11:58 AM

I said several times, this is not funny anymore. :(
Surfers around here, don't just read this fucking board but please save us by signing up to some dozens of sites! ;)

fastboy 10-01-2008 11:59 AM

damn, you are really ass fucked, something is wrong here, maybe to analyze your traffic sources?

- Jesus Christ - 10-01-2008 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey Jones (Post 14841146)
All of that is clicked traffic.

If that really is clicked and US based... you seriously need to look at what your doing instead of blaming the billing system.

If its not all US start sorting it and find programs that will convert surfers from each region.

DarkJedi 10-01-2008 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesK (Post 14841170)
Show your other stats so we can compare

They're fine, trust me.

That why i'm not worrying about them.

Bojangles 10-01-2008 12:04 PM

Holy shit.

DarkJedi 10-01-2008 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ - (Post 14841195)
If that really is clicked and US based... you seriously need to look at what your doing instead of blaming the billing system.

If its not all US start sorting it and find programs that will convert surfers from each region.

First of all, i'm not blaming the processor. It's just something that caught my eye while I was checking all the stats. NATS based big programs perform much better, though they are more targeted.

It is clicked traffic. If it's 100% US i dont know, because I don't track it, but it's general traffic that is floating around (SE's, blogs, freesites etc)

Problem is, i'm too lazy to fuck with it (clean it up, remove old links, set up new ads, etc)

:helpme

DarkJedi 10-01-2008 12:11 PM

Check out the asshole from Bonanza Bucks.

Know why there is 36k unique hits and no sales? Because there used to be one model, then she quit, then the fucker completely removed all her content. That's right, on the front page of the site there is a completely different girl. Ofc. surfers click the thumb expecting to see the old model, but get some bullshit instead.

Webmasters like these should be fucking shot.

notoldschool 10-01-2008 12:19 PM

If it was bought traffic i could understand but if its SE then thats pathetic no matter what proggie your using.

Sosa 10-01-2008 12:25 PM

wow that is terrible. Can't believe that ratio for melissa

KillerK 10-01-2008 12:26 PM

maybe its all the cookie stuffing going on that is fucking you

Robbie 10-01-2008 12:34 PM

I'm finding that more and more surfers are using my TGP's to find new stuff, clicking to the tour to see if they really like it...and then instead of buying a membership (like they used to) they leave.

When that is happening to sites that always converted...I can only come up with one rational idea. They are using me to find what's hot and then are going to search the tubes for the content for free. :(

I have seen simiilar ratios in my stats for some very big companies that I have promoted for years and years. Can't sell shit on them now. Sending plenty of good, real traffic. But not seeing any conversions.

You can say "Your traffic sucks" until the cows come home. But every hit I send is a real human being clicking on a link that they are interested in. If it doesn't convert at the tour, then there is something happening.

My belief, from my years of experience, is that they are using us as a way to find the next site to search for that has the members area ripped on a tube.

Trixie 10-01-2008 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey Jones (Post 14841169)
Most of them are "solo girls" programs.

We all know the integrity of those (being run by a single webmaster, models running away after a few months of work, etc.)

That's why they choose ccbill - cause it's easy to set up.


Big operation programs (on Nats) are doing okay.

Let's not paint everyone with the same brush and call into question the INTEGRITY of all sponsors using ccbill to administer their programs; I know a lot of independently owned/operated personality sites who've been around for YEARS, including my own since 2002. Just because people use ccbill and may have less resources than big corporate porn sponsors hardly means they have less INTEGRITY. That's just bullshit.

Plus you can find assloads of threads attesting to the greater trust webmasters have with ccbill administered programs vs. NATS. There is no shaving with ccbill sponsors.

Trixie 10-01-2008 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14841330)
I'm finding that more and more surfers are using my TGP's to find new stuff, clicking to the tour to see if they really like it...and then instead of buying a membership (like they used to) they leave.

When that is happening to sites that always converted...I can only come up with one rational idea. They are using me to find what's hot and then are going to search the tubes for the content for free. :(

I have seen simiilar ratios in my stats for some very big companies that I have promoted for years and years. Can't sell shit on them now. Sending plenty of good, real traffic. But not seeing any conversions.

You can say "Your traffic sucks" until the cows come home. But every hit I send is a real human being clicking on a link that they are interested in. If it doesn't convert at the tour, then there is something happening.

My belief, from my years of experience, is that they are using us as a way to find the next site to search for that has the members area ripped on a tube.

All good points, especially since people are talking about the next depression hitting us. People are going to be stealing even more porn than they were three months ago instead of paying for it. :2 cents:

DarkJedi 10-01-2008 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sosa (Post 14841288)
wow that is terrible. Can't believe that ratio for melissa

http://mrskin-online.com/melissa.jpg

Cant believe it either. All that traffic is being clicked from a blog post.

I don't know why the fuck she doesn't convert.

cherrylula 10-01-2008 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey Jones (Post 14841169)
Most of them are "solo girls" programs.

We all know the integrity of those (being run by a single webmaster, models running away after a few months of work, etc.)

That's why they choose ccbill - cause it's easy to set up.


Big operation programs (on Nats) are doing okay.


Ash Cash :1orglaugh

LeRoy 10-01-2008 12:45 PM

Maybe it's Karma... :2 cents:

cherrylula 10-01-2008 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey Jones (Post 14841245)
Check out the asshole from Bonanza Bucks.

Know why there is 36k unique hits and no sales? Because there used to be one model, then she quit, then the fucker completely removed all her content. That's right, on the front page of the site there is a completely different girl. Ofc. surfers click the thumb expecting to see the old model, but get some bullshit instead.

Webmasters like these should be fucking shot.

Yep, those programs really didn't (do not) know what they are doing when they make changes like that. Lose/lose situation.

Agent 488 10-01-2008 12:46 PM

or mentally bookmarking it and googling it later. i'm finding se traffic decent day in day out. the surfer is just getting smarter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14841330)
I'm finding that more and more surfers are using my TGP's to find new stuff, clicking to the tour to see if they really like it...and then instead of buying a membership (like they used to) they leave.

When that is happening to sites that always converted...I can only come up with one rational idea. They are using me to find what's hot and then are going to search the tubes for the content for free. :(

I have seen simiilar ratios in my stats for some very big companies that I have promoted for years and years. Can't sell shit on them now. Sending plenty of good, real traffic. But not seeing any conversions.

You can say "Your traffic sucks" until the cows come home. But every hit I send is a real human being clicking on a link that they are interested in. If it doesn't convert at the tour, then there is something happening.

My belief, from my years of experience, is that they are using us as a way to find the next site to search for that has the members area ripped on a tube.


Agent 488 10-01-2008 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey Jones (Post 14841374)
http://mrskin-online.com/melissa.jpg

Cant believe it either. All that traffic is being clicked from a blog post.

I don't know why the fuck she doesn't convert.

that's brutal. kinds sad he didn't even bring the trial to full membership.

96ukssob 10-01-2008 12:53 PM

damn, thats not to good at all.

ive noticed my ccbill stats for some sponsors are starting to go down hill as well. im wondering if its a cookie related issue or something that is causing a problem.. not trying to cause drama but i dont know how CCbill processes the affiliate sale

DarkJedi 10-01-2008 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 14841371)
Ash Cash :1orglaugh

you should see the names of the programs that were left off list.

it's comedy gold.

Manowar 10-01-2008 12:57 PM

those MM stats are seriously funky, she's always done well for me on the same sort of traffic

especially rebills, and it's not like her members area is sparce

weird as hell.

Marky333 10-01-2008 12:59 PM

Wish you good luck in the future.

d-null 10-01-2008 01:01 PM

always got to be an idiot or two that says "your traffic sucks"


I'm seeing pretty much the same kind of things, and that is on mostly google search traffic, so :321GFY with the "your traffic sucks" bs :2 cents:

(and respect for some honest stats DJ)


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