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robfantasy 09-12-2008 04:38 PM

Obama Worshipers! - Obama couldnt pass a security clearance for FBI or Secret Service
 
Because of his associations with terrorists and extremists...

Obama would NOT pass a security clearance for the FBI or Secret Service.. THIS IS A FACT

and you want to hand him the keys to the white house....

discuss

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-12-2008 04:40 PM

Proof Please.

tony286 09-12-2008 04:40 PM

do you have a real news source to back that up ?

notoldschool 09-12-2008 04:41 PM

Someone is getting scared I see. Dont worry, no matter how much you rant Obama will still be the next president and you will still be crazier than bat shit.

FabianC 09-12-2008 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 14747666)
Proof Please.

ditto

8chars

IllTestYourGirls 09-12-2008 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 14747666)
Proof Please.

just google "obama ties to terrorists" there are millions of results. Its pretty straight forward and yes he does have ties.

Wizzo 09-12-2008 04:45 PM

Why don't you just man up and say your scared of black people instead of spewing lies the have no basis in fact...:pimp

Malicious Biz 09-12-2008 04:45 PM

He's admittedly used illegals drugs in his lifetime. That alone would preclude him from being accepted to the FBI I'm pretty sure.

robfantasy 09-12-2008 04:47 PM

there are a few military men on here, lets see what they have to say about this

klaze 09-12-2008 04:47 PM

When does this shit end?

StarkReality 09-12-2008 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 14747657)
Because of his associations with terrorists and extremists...

Obama would NOT pass a security clearance for the FBI or Secret Service.. THIS IS A FACT

and you want to hand him the keys to the white house....

discuss

http://hosting06.imagecross.com/imag...roll.jpg4..jpg

IllTestYourGirls 09-12-2008 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 14747687)
Why don't you just man up and say your scared of black people instead of spewing lies the have no basis in fact...:pimp

http://www.nysun.com/national/obamas...crutiny/71421/

also google "obama ties to terrorist Raila Odinga"

Oh ya the right did not come up with this. Hillary supporters did

baddog 09-12-2008 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 14747692)
He's admittedly used illegals drugs in his lifetime. That alone would preclude him from being accepted to the FBI I'm pretty sure.

I seem to recall hearing it is changed to, if you lie about taking drugs in the past you will be denied.

They had to loosen the standards a little.

tony286 09-12-2008 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 14747692)
He's admittedly used illegals drugs in his lifetime. That alone would preclude him from being accepted to the FBI I'm pretty sure.

You mean like W who was a coke fiend and got busted for dui?

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-12-2008 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarkReality (Post 14747697)


:2 cents::2 cents:

BlackCrayon 09-12-2008 04:52 PM

robfantasy is just a racist. Look at other posts of his.

IllTestYourGirls 09-12-2008 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 14747712)
robfantasy is just a racist. Look at other posts of his.

even racists can be right sometimes :winkwink:

mineistaken 09-12-2008 04:55 PM

please bring more politics here lol

Malicious Biz 09-12-2008 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14747702)
I seem to recall hearing it is changed to, if you lie about taking drugs in the past you will be denied.

They had to loosen the standards a little.

http://www.fbijobs.gov/52.asp
yeah you're right.

notoldschool 09-12-2008 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 14747729)
please bring more politics here lol

lol..even I long for a real biz thread but them days are long gone.

robfantasy 09-12-2008 04:57 PM

Could Barack Obama Get a Security Clearance?

Questions Raised in Light of New Reports Examining Senator’s Contacts and Associations with Communists,
Socialists, and Terrorists
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WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Two veterans of investigations into Communist influence on the U.S. political process are holding a briefing on Capitol Hill on Thursday to release two new explosive reports that allege that Barack Obama had ties with extreme anti-American elements, including agents of the Moscow-controlled Communist Party USA. The reports will shed important new light on Barack Obama's mysterious past and rise to power.

"Communism in Chicago and the Obama Connection" a 36-page report by Cliff Kincaid, and "Communism in Hawaii and the Obama Connection" a 44-page report by by Herbert Romerstein, and will be released at a Briefing on Thursday, May 22, at 2 p.m. on Capitol Hill at 201 F St., NE, Washington, D.C. The reports feature historical, congressional and archival material about the existence of communist networks targeting U.S. national security.

The major points in the reports allege:

Obama has been in the middle of two international communist networks – one in Hawaii and one in Chicago.
The Hawaii network included communists Frank Marshall Davis, who was Obama’s personal mentor; actor/singer Paul Robeson; and labor leader Harry Bridges. The network was judged a security threat to the United States and the subject of a congressional hearing on the “Scope of Soviet Activity in the United States.”
Obama covered up the true identity of Frank Marshall Davis in his book, Dreams From My Father.
The Hawaii communist network was organized directly by and from Moscow.
The Chicago network included identified communists and socialists, was committed to a communist victory in the Vietnam War, and took instructions from the communist Castro regime in Cuba.
In addition to communist terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, who were members of the communist terrorist Weather Underground, the Chicago network includes many veterans of the communist Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) who now proclaim themselves “Progressives for Obama.”
Bill Ayers, who helped launch Obama’s political career, has traveled to Venezuela on several occasions and is an enthusiastic backer of the brand of communism being practiced and promoted by Hugo Chavez.
It appears that Obama actually worked for Ayers in a Chicago educational reform program that dispensed millions of dollars of grants.
One of the leaders of “Progressives for Obama” is former SDS leader Tom Hayden, who wrote a letter to a communist Vietnamese official during the Vietnam War hoping for a “victory” over the U.S.
The SDS openly promoted communism, the regimes in Hanoi and Havana, and condemned alleged U.S. “imperialism.”
The Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), a group that included a convicted espionage agent for communist East Germany, backed and promoted Obama’s political career.
Illinois State Senator Alice Palmer, who picked Obama as her successor, has a record of involvement in communist front activities.
Obama campaign strategist David Axelrod, as well as Obama himself, have not explained why Ayers, Dohrn, then-State Senator Alice Palmer, and Dr. Quentin Young came together at the Ayers/Dohrn home to launch Obama’s political career.
Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley, a client of Axelrod, issued a controversial and misleading statement defending Obama’s relationship with communist terrorist Bill Ayers.

tony286 09-12-2008 04:58 PM

the link where it came from please?

SuzzyQ 09-12-2008 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klaze (Post 14747695)
When does this shit end?

I agree... In a few short hours, we will be greeted with threads slamming Palin about her interview on 20/20.

robfantasy 09-12-2008 04:59 PM

Obama receives illegal funds from 'terrorist hotbed'
Jim Brown - OneNewsNow - 8/6/2008 6:00:00 AM

According to Federal Election Commission filings, Barack Obama has received illegal donations from Palestinians living in Gaza, a hotbed of Hamas terrorists.





Obama received more than $24,000 in campaign contributions over a period of two months last fall from three Palestinian brothers from the "Edwan" family in Rafah, Gaza, which is a Hamas stronghold along the border with Egypt. The story was uncovered by Pamela Geller of the Atlas Shrugs blog. (see Federal Election Commission report)



Attorney and conservative commentator Debbie Schlussel notes foreign nationals are barred from making contributions in connection with any election -- federal, state, or local -- and an individual is allowed to give only $2,300 per election to a federal candidate or the candidate's campaign committee.



"The donations are basically through and through illegal -- that's number one. And number two is how the Obama campaign tried to conceal it," Schlussel chides. "They listed the campaign contributions as coming from Rafah, Georgia. They used the 'GA' from Gaza so it makes it look like it's legal; and then for the zip code it says '972,' which is actually the area code to dial over to Gaza," she contends.



The attorney comments that if the Obama campaign is willing to "accept thousands of dollars beyond the legal limit and they're also going to flout [Federal Election Commission] restrictions...that's very indicative of what kind of president [Obama] is going to be."



"They're not going to be worried about the details and they won't mind if they break the law to get to the final result that they want," adds Schlussel. She believes it is a "major news story when a presidential candidate receives money from 'a bastion of Islamic terrorism.' And Schlussel argues that the media is "bending over backwards to help Barack Obama and cover up any negative news about him."



Schlussel says Pamela Geller will likely file a Federal Election Commission complaint against the Obama campaign for violating restrictions and limits on campaign contributions.

robfantasy 09-12-2008 05:00 PM

Obama as You've Never Known Him!

By Dana Milbank
Friday, May 23, 2008; A03



Here are some things we can look forward to learning about Barack Obama:

· That he was mentored in high school by a member of the Soviet-controlled Communist Party.


· That he launched his Illinois state Senate campaign in the home of a terrorist and a killer.


· That while serving as a state senator, he was a member of a socialist front group.


· That his affiliations are so dodgy that he would have trouble getting a government security clearance.


· That there is reason to doubt his "loyalty to the United States."

These and many other implausible accusations were offered by a group of conservatives yesterday -- including a living relic from the House Committee on Un-American Activities -- in a Capitol Hill basement. The charges ranged from the absurd to the merely questionable, but anybody who watched the Swift Boat campaign of 2004 make John Kerry look like a war criminal knows that's not the point.

The Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy took a blow with Hillary Clinton's collapse. But it is regrouping, and finding plenty of sinister things to say about Obama -- even if he didn't trade cattle futures.

The group, assembled by something called America's Survival Inc., gathered in the basement of Ebenezer Coffee House at Second and F streets NE. They shared the stage with a big drum set, and posters documenting items they would seek to tie to Obama: an SDS newsletter from 1969 (when he was 7), and a police killing from 1970 (when he was 8).

"We believe that any public figure with links to foreign and hostile interests should be asked to explain those associations," the organizer, Cliff Kincaid, told about two dozen conservatives and a few reporters. "In the case of Obama, a relatively new figure on the national scene, we submit the facts suggest that he would have serious difficulty getting a security clearance in the United States government. An FBI background check was once used to examine one's character, loyalty to the United States, and associations."

"He's a member of an organization [that is] openly a front for two socialist groups," reported another participant, Trevor Loudon.

"Obama was raised and educated in a very Marxist-rich environment, which often would limit his worldview," reported a third, Max Friedman.

But the star of the show was the ancient Herbert Romerstein, who once plied his trade for the Un-American Activities committee. "We decided to start going back and seeing what things influenced him even before he was born," Romerstein announced without a trace of irony, before tying Obama to the Communist Party of the 1930s in Hawaii and Soviet spies on the island. "This is the atmosphere that young Barack Obama grew up in."

The smoking gun? Obama's "mentor" during his teens, according to Kincaid, was "a key member of a Soviet-controlled network that was sponsored by Moscow and active in Hawaii."

These accusations fall somewhere between guilt by association and guilt by invention, but the accusers were just getting started.

In college, Obama "admits selecting Marxist professors among his friends and attending socialist conferences," Kincaid went on. In Chicago, he said, "Obama launched his political career back in 1995 at the home of communist-terrorist Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn," the two Weather Underground figures who have already made a cameo in the campaign. Kincaid then made the unilateral decision to accuse Dohrn of the 1970 killing of a policeman, a charge no prosecutor has made.

"The Weather Underground terrorists," Romerstein added, "were instrumental in getting him to office in the first place."

Those charges were relatively benign compared with the questions. One inquired about the link between "the American left and Islamofascists." Another asked about nefarious influences on Michelle Obama. A third raised the possibility that Obama's "change" slogan is based on the 1961 communist "Movement for Change."

"It's clear that the communists and the socialists are backing him," Kincaid confirmed.

The questions continued: "The Obama-Muslim connection . . . the background of Michelle Obama . . . How he gave $23,000 to this church . . . Was it connected with Tony Rezko . . . the results from Gary, Indiana, which were so late in being released."

It was beginning to sound like a UFO convention. But the panelists took it seriously, firing questions back at the audience. "Was Barack Obama working for Bill Ayers?" Kincaid wondered aloud. Romerstein demanded: "How come for 20 years he sat in the pews and listened to a raving anti-American racist? How did he bring his two young children to this church to hear Wright rave on?"

The evidence was compelling enough for participant Friedman. For him, the Rosetta Stone was Obama's chief strategist, David Axelrod, who Friedman alleged was the protege of a man with "a Communist Party-front record" in Chicago. "The more I look at this, I'm seeing there are a lot of red-diaper babies around here," he deduced. "By putting these pieces of the puzzle together, I'm beginning to see something much bigger."

directfiesta 09-12-2008 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 14747657)
Because of his associations with terrorists and extremists...

Obama would NOT pass a security clearance for the FBI or Secret Service.. THIS IS A FACT

and you want to hand him the keys to the white house....

discuss

a ROBFANTASY fact = bullshit :2 cents:

tony286 09-12-2008 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 14747748)
Obama receives illegal funds from 'terrorist hotbed'
Jim Brown - OneNewsNow - 8/6/2008 6:00:00 AM

According to Federal Election Commission filings, Barack Obama has received illegal donations from Palestinians living in Gaza, a hotbed of Hamas terrorists.





Obama received more than $24,000 in campaign contributions over a period of two months last fall from three Palestinian brothers from the "Edwan" family in Rafah, Gaza, which is a Hamas stronghold along the border with Egypt. The story was uncovered by Pamela Geller of the Atlas Shrugs blog. (see Federal Election Commission report)



Attorney and conservative commentator Debbie Schlussel notes foreign nationals are barred from making contributions in connection with any election -- federal, state, or local -- and an individual is allowed to give only $2,300 per election to a federal candidate or the candidate's campaign committee.



"The donations are basically through and through illegal -- that's number one. And number two is how the Obama campaign tried to conceal it," Schlussel chides. "They listed the campaign contributions as coming from Rafah, Georgia. They used the 'GA' from Gaza so it makes it look like it's legal; and then for the zip code it says '972,' which is actually the area code to dial over to Gaza," she contends.



The attorney comments that if the Obama campaign is willing to "accept thousands of dollars beyond the legal limit and they're also going to flout [Federal Election Commission] restrictions...that's very indicative of what kind of president [Obama] is going to be."



"They're not going to be worried about the details and they won't mind if they break the law to get to the final result that they want," adds Schlussel. She believes it is a "major news story when a presidential candidate receives money from 'a bastion of Islamic terrorism.' And Schlussel argues that the media is "bending over backwards to help Barack Obama and cover up any negative news about him."



Schlussel says Pamela Geller will likely file a Federal Election Commission complaint against the Obama campaign for violating restrictions and limits on campaign contributions.

yeah they dont have an agenda lol

robfantasy 09-12-2008 05:01 PM

just putting it out there.

slavdogg 09-12-2008 05:01 PM

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtri...0492_09_03.asp

it is true that Obama has not been cleared or vetted by FBI

However i dont think there is a requirement to do so either..

baddog 09-12-2008 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 14747731)

I can't believe you had to use Google to come to that realization. It is okay to assume. :upsidedow


Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14747743)
the link where it came from please?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&r...nists,&spell=1

robfantasy 09-12-2008 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14747758)
yeah they dont have an agenda lol

bro, agenda or not..


READ THE FACTS

simple question.. why would you let someone control the white house who couldnt get passed an FBI or secret service clearance


seriously.. no agendas.. just a matter of being a concerned citizen

BlackCrayon 09-12-2008 05:03 PM

Those articles made me LOL

Drake 09-12-2008 05:06 PM

Damn commies. We might as well put Putin in the Whitehouse.

robfantasy 09-12-2008 05:06 PM

another great article from somenoe who has served in us military, law enforcement and as a civilian gov contractor

http://www.secureputer.com/obamadeni...rityclearance/

Barack Obama Denied National Security Clearance
Aug.20, 2008 in General
Barack Obama cannot be Trusted with Classified Information

How can the President of the United States be denied a basic security clearance? How can the Commander and Chief of the most powerful military be denied access to classified information? Barack Obama would be denied the necessary security clearance for President if he was held to the same standard as everyone else. If you can’t pass a Secret level background investigation, which is required for many soldiers, you should not be eligible for the Presidency.

What is a Security Clearance?

Having served in the U.S. military, law enforcement, and as a civilian government contractor, I’ve had my fair share of background investigations. The United States government employs a multitier security clearance paradigm.

Confidential – Unauthorized disclosure could cause “damage to national security.”
Secret – Unauthorized disclosure could cause “serious damage to national security.”
Top Secret – Unauthorized disclosure could cause “exceptionally grave damage to national security.”

Each level of access requires a progressively more in-depth background investigation before the clearance is obtained. The President of the United States should be able to flawlessly pass the most extensive investigation and a polygraph test. Both are required for workers in some Special Access Programs classified Top Secret.

The purpose of the clearance is to determine an individual’s honesty, trustworthiness, reliability, financial responsibility, criminal activity, emotional stability, foreign influences, family associations, drug use, mental health, judicial proceedings, employment history, traits of character, and loyalty to the United States. This collective data is used to evaluate your ability and willingness to safeguard national secrets. Based on the facts about Barack Obama, he fails to satisfy the minimum requirements for even a basic secret clearance. His background investigation would have “Red Flags” shooting up in so many places; the issuing panel would deny him a clearance outright.


read the rest of the article

Drake 09-12-2008 05:10 PM

I hope the FBI is watching this election. If they're not, they've dropped the ball big time.

directfiesta 09-12-2008 05:13 PM

Jim Brown ....:

Quote:

God called him to OneNewsNow.com not long after he graduated from Pensacola Christian College with a degree in broadcast journalism
http://www.onenewsnow.com/general.aspx?id=1202


Another bunch of religious freaks ... like the Scientology Tom Cruise ....

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Here some real news:

Alaska lawmakers decide to subpoena Palin's husband


TrooperGate will be fun ....

SoloGirlsContent 09-12-2008 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 14747685)
just google "obama ties to terrorists" there are millions of results. Its pretty straight forward and yes he does have ties.

results from your dumb ass and your brothers:1orglaugh
get a life

slavdogg 09-12-2008 05:14 PM

assuming all above is true and i do believe them to be true.

in today's day and age, why would communist association disqualify Obama from security clearance ?
Is there a communist enemy in the world ? what country is really a communist country today ?
And please dont say, Cuba, China, VN or NK. they;re not really communist anymore..

robfantasy 09-12-2008 05:14 PM

http://www.opm.gov/Forms/pdf_fill/sf86.pdf

NAIL IN THE COFFIN

SoloGirlsContent 09-12-2008 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 14747811)

hope it's your nail and your coffin... you are a shitbag


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