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kmanrox 09-10-2008 03:32 PM

Is it not obvious what Russia is doing with Venezuela?
 
we put missiles next to them, they're gonna put some next to us.. duh

DWB 09-10-2008 03:33 PM

Yea, but we won't stand for it. Only The USA can do some shit like that. If anyone else does it, it's an act of war.

directfiesta 09-10-2008 04:09 PM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

marketsmart 09-10-2008 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 14735795)
Yea, but we won't stand for it. Only The USA can do some shit like that. If anyone else does it, it's an act of war.

you got that right.... :thumbsup

spunkmaster 09-10-2008 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmanrox (Post 14735789)
we put missiles next to them, they're gonna put some next to us.. duh




The US wants an anti-missile system to intercept missles from Iran not offensive missles aimed at Russia. We already have enough ICBM's to take Russia out 200 times over !

directfiesta 09-10-2008 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunkmaster (Post 14736142)
The US wants an anti-missile system to intercept missles from Iran not offensive missles aimed at Russia. We already have enough ICBM's to take Russia out 200 times over !

Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb

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Loryn 09-10-2008 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunkmaster (Post 14736142)
The US wants an anti-missile system to intercept missles from Iran not offensive missles aimed at Russia. We already have enough ICBM's to take Russia out 200 times over !


I love you!!! :thumbsup

seeric 09-10-2008 05:02 PM

Love the bomb. Love the bomb.

Loryn 09-10-2008 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 14735795)
Yea, but we won't stand for it. Only The USA can do some shit like that. If anyone else does it, it's an act of war.

WHAT? Russia tried to pull that on us in CUBA!!! You know that little isalnd I can swim to from the tip of Florida! :fart Just kidding I would rather :wetkiss ya!

directfiesta 09-10-2008 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loryn (Post 14736227)
WHAT? Russia tried to pull that on us in CUBA!!! You know that little isalnd I can swim to from the tip of Florida! :fart Just kidding I would rather :wetkiss ya!

Well, it did pratically create war ( Invasion of Bay of Pigs ).... Funny how it is OK to put those on Russia's borders.

MrAwesome 09-10-2008 07:12 PM

only US can have missiles!!

Spunky 09-10-2008 07:17 PM

A couple of a bombs would smarten them up

crockett 09-10-2008 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 14735795)
Yea, but we won't stand for it. Only The USA can do some shit like that. If anyone else does it, it's an act of war.

Yes but the diffrence is we can actually back up our smack talk. :winkwink:

sperbonzo 09-10-2008 07:52 PM

I don't understand how people can't get the difference between the US wanting to put an ANTI-missile screen up in the Ukraine, and the USSR (Oops, sorry, it's supposed to be Russia now), putting OFFENSIVE missiles in Cuba.


I have two questions.
1. Can't you see the difference?
2. For the Americans on this board.... Are you really that uninterested in the outcome of a global conflict? Would you be cheering if the Russians sent nukes into the US and turned your friends and families into charred corpses just so that you could say, "Nyah nyah nyah! You had it coming!" ??




I just don't get it people.



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CaptainHowdy 09-10-2008 08:17 PM

The good old days ARE BACK, baby!

fatfoo 09-10-2008 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 14735795)
Yea, but we won't stand for it. Only The USA can do some shit like that. If anyone else does it, it's an act of war.

yeah , that's true

sperbonzo 09-10-2008 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 14737011)
I don't understand how people can't get the difference between the US wanting to put an ANTI-missile screen up in the Ukraine, and the USSR (Oops, sorry, it's supposed to be Russia now), putting OFFENSIVE missiles in Cuba.


I have two questions.
1. Can't you see the difference?
2. For the Americans on this board.... Are you really that uninterested in the outcome of a global conflict? Would you be cheering if the Russians sent nukes into the US and turned your friends and families into charred corpses just so that you could say, "Nyah nyah nyah! You had it coming!" ??




I just don't get it people.



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Still no answers from anyone on this? I'm truly trying to understand here...

Pornopat 09-10-2008 08:57 PM

Its less funny when you also know there will be trainingdays for the Venezulean and Russian army in oktober and you live 20 miles away from Venezuela..;-/

Sly 09-10-2008 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 14737011)
I don't understand how people can't get the difference between the US wanting to put an ANTI-missile screen up in the Ukraine, and the USSR (Oops, sorry, it's supposed to be Russia now), putting OFFENSIVE missiles in Cuba.


I have two questions.
1. Can't you see the difference?
2. For the Americans on this board.... Are you really that uninterested in the outcome of a global conflict? Would you be cheering if the Russians sent nukes into the US and turned your friends and families into charred corpses just so that you could say, "Nyah nyah nyah! You had it coming!" ??




I just don't get it people.



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It's much more dramatic and exciting to be sensational.

Antonio 09-10-2008 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 14737011)
I don't understand how people can't get the difference between the US wanting to put an ANTI-missile screen up in the Ukraine, and the USSR (Oops, sorry, it's supposed to be Russia now), putting OFFENSIVE missiles in Cuba.
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if you're talking Cuba like in the Cuban crisis a few decades ago the Russians placed their missiles there in response to the US placing long-range missiles in Turkey (or the intention of dpong so, can't remember for sure). The outcome was that the Russians removed the missles from Cuba and the US theirs from Turkey

Pornopat 09-10-2008 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 14737296)
if you're talking Cuba like in the Cuban crisis a few decades ago the Russians placed their missiles there in response to the US placing long-range missiles in Turkey (or the intention of dpong so, can't remember for sure). The outcome was that the Russians removed the missles from Cuba and the US theirs from Turkey

Without googling it I think the Russian missiles never reached Cuba.
The ships carrying them were blocked by the US marine.

clubvin 09-10-2008 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 14735795)
Yea, but we won't stand for it. Only The USA can do some shit like that. If anyone else does it, it's an act of war.

:1orglaugh great comment. great observation! loved it

Phil 09-10-2008 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 14737011)
I don't understand how people can't get the difference between the US wanting to put an ANTI-missile screen up in the Ukraine, and the USSR (Oops, sorry, it's supposed to be Russia now), putting OFFENSIVE missiles in Cuba.


I have two questions.
1. Can't you see the difference?
2. For the Americans on this board.... Are you really that uninterested in the outcome of a global conflict? Would you be cheering if the Russians sent nukes into the US and turned your friends and families into charred corpses just so that you could say, "Nyah nyah nyah! You had it coming!" ??




I just don't get it people.



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cry me a river

Drake 09-10-2008 09:38 PM

Cold War Act 2

Phil 09-10-2008 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike33 (Post 14737350)
Cold War Act 2

neh, last thing US needs is another useless "national security pride" drill...
why fucking around with russia when you have power houses like N. Korea, Iran, Botswana and one day may be Monaco or Madagascar???

DWB 09-10-2008 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loryn (Post 14736227)
WHAT? Russia tried to pull that on us in CUBA!!! You know that little isalnd I can swim to from the tip of Florida! :fart Just kidding I would rather :wetkiss ya!

Exactly and we almost went to war over it.

I think you took what I said backwards.

scubadiver626 09-10-2008 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 14736935)
Yes but the diffrence is we can actually back up our smack talk. :winkwink:

Not if Obama becomes president :helpme

Cherry7 09-11-2008 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 14736935)
Yes but the diffrence is we can actually back up our smack talk. :winkwink:

Defeated by Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan... when did you win a war?

Manowar 09-11-2008 04:36 AM

such a legendary film

ADL Colin 09-11-2008 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 14737100)
The good old days ARE BACK, baby!

:2 cents: :1orglaugh

Phil 09-11-2008 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 14738102)
Defeated by Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan... when did you win a war?

Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan...
haven't you heard? Ohhh, you must be living outside of the US...

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directfiesta 09-11-2008 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 14737011)
I don't understand how people can't get the difference between the US wanting to put an ANTI-missile screen up in the Ukraine, and the USSR (Oops, sorry, it's supposed to be Russia now), putting OFFENSIVE missiles in Cuba.


I have two questions.
1. Can't you see the difference?
2. For the Americans on this board.... Are you really that uninterested in the outcome of a global conflict? Would you be cheering if the Russians sent nukes into the US and turned your friends and families into charred corpses just so that you could say, "Nyah nyah nyah! You had it coming!" ??




I just don't get it people.



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Now, do you get it ?

sperbonzo 09-11-2008 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 14738244)
Now, do you get it ?

No one has answered either question yet...




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pornJester 09-11-2008 06:05 AM

i dated a girl from venezuela once, put a hot russian chick in the mix and that would be a threesome to remember :)

kmanrox 09-11-2008 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 14737237)
Still no answers from anyone on this? I'm truly trying to understand here...

surely they'd 'say' they were only putting up defensive missiles to protect their good friend and trading partner Venezuela.. but that gives them carte blanche passage to send ships carrying all kinds of military cargo..

The Duck 09-11-2008 06:48 AM

:2 cents:

Pleasurepays 09-11-2008 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 14735795)
Yea, but we won't stand for it. Only The USA can do some shit like that. If anyone else does it, it's an act of war.

national interests.

Pleasurepays 09-11-2008 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 14737011)
I don't understand how people can't get the difference between the US wanting to put an ANTI-missile screen up in the Ukraine, and the USSR (Oops, sorry, it's supposed to be Russia now), putting OFFENSIVE missiles in Cuba.

its not different at all. its the same thing. there is no difference between rending someones else's offensive capability useless by improved defensive capability or just putting more missiles in their front yard


I have two questions.
Quote:

1. Can't you see the difference?
there is no difference


Quote:

2. For the Americans on this board.... Are you really that uninterested in the outcome of a global conflict? Would you be cheering if the Russians sent nukes into the US and turned your friends and families into charred corpses just so that you could say, "Nyah nyah nyah! You had it coming!"??
What global conflict? Its about balance of power. Nothing else. There is a massive difference between a bunch of jackasses on a message board and their opinions... and major world powers, their security, national interests, political and economic objectives etc.

The Cold War was a hoax. People don't get that. The Cold War was a hoax that divided the world between two powers and forced them to align with one or the other which was about economic and political objectives, not military/national security.

Russia just slapped Georgia. why? well, in the long thread about it, i said exactly why. They want to flex some muscle because they can. They want some respect and they want to regain some of the influence in the world that they lost. Even a Russian general announced to the world just a couple days ago, exactly that "The world must now realize that Russia is a force to be reckoned with"....

it has little to do with military. It has to do with trade with others who will align themselves with them... i.e. Venuzuela, cuba, Iran, N, Korea, Libya, China etc etc etc. If you want people to fall in behind behind you.. you have to show you can lead.

SmokeyTheBear 09-11-2008 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 14737011)
I don't understand how people can't get the difference between the US wanting to put an ANTI-missile screen up in the Ukraine, and the USSR (Oops, sorry, it's supposed to be Russia now), putting OFFENSIVE missiles in Cuba.


I have two questions.
1. Can't you see the difference?
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yes, i can. Russia doesnt have as good of anti-missiles as usa does.

seriously , think about it.

if i hate you and you hate me , you live in new york and i live in l.a. we both have missiles pointing at each other. Now suddenly you put an "anti-missile" in my next door neighbours yard that can shoot down my missiles , but i dont have anything to shoot down your missiles , in the event we have a war you will win. whats my only option to even the odds ? put my missiles so close your anti-missile system wont work :)

yys 09-11-2008 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 14737011)
I don't understand how people can't get the difference between the US wanting to put an ANTI-missile screen up in the Ukraine, and the USSR (Oops, sorry, it's supposed to be Russia now), putting OFFENSIVE missiles in Cuba.


I have two questions.
1. Can't you see the difference?
2. For the Americans on this board.... Are you really that uninterested in the outcome of a global conflict? Would you be cheering if the Russians sent nukes into the US and turned your friends and families into charred corpses just so that you could say, "Nyah nyah nyah! You had it coming!" ??




I just don't get it people.



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Pretty funny isn't it that people can't tell the difference between an ABM which carries a kinetic warhead and a Ballistic missile that has a nuclear warhead.

Simple people like simple answers and the "why can't Russia place ballistic missiles of the U.S. coast if the U.S. can put ABM in Europe?" is about as simple as you can get.

Plus half the people who bitch about it on here either live in some third world shithole or a former soviet shithole so they have that whole "U.S.A. bad" thing going on.


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