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D Ghost 08-10-2008 03:19 AM

Video shows police punching teen 13 times in face, then tasering him
 


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GREENVILLE COUNTY, S.C. ? An 18-year-old was punched in the face 13 times by a deputy police officer, whose dashboard video camera caught the incident on tape, WYFF Channel 4 News reported.
http://www.infowars.com/?p=3865

fuzzylogic 08-10-2008 03:26 AM

did the teen deserve it?
a cop must have control at all times. if a subject threatens that power then the cop must control and subdue that subject. it's perfectly rational from the cops point of view.

chemicaleyes 08-10-2008 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzzylogic (Post 14586846)
did the teen deserve it?

No

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Originally Posted by fuzzylogic (Post 14586846)
a cop must have control at all times. if a subject threatens that power then the cop must control and subdue that subject. it's perfectly rational from the cops point of view.

13 punches in the face is rational, when you're arleady on top of the guy, lol

D Ghost 08-10-2008 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzzylogic (Post 14586846)
did the teen deserve it?
a cop must have control at all times. if a subject threatens that power then the cop must control and subdue that subject. it's perfectly rational from the cops point of view.

the 13 punches to the face wasn't acceptable at all.

fris 08-10-2008 05:17 AM

in the end they will say the officer used the force neccesary to control the boy.

D Ghost 08-10-2008 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by fris (Post 14587009)
in the end they will say the officer used the force neccesary to control the boy.

yep......

marketsmart 08-10-2008 04:57 PM

remember kids, cops dont have bp armour for their faces...

aim high... :thumbsup

<<E A T R O A D K I L L>> 08-10-2008 04:58 PM

Dont fucking resist arrest...its that simple. I never understand why people do that. You have no chance and in the worst case end up like this.

<<E A T R O A D K I L L>> 08-10-2008 05:00 PM

He had drugs on him and resisted arrest. That idiot kid did 2 things wrong and HE couldve prevented this. Blame him not the cop.

RobAlbaugh 08-10-2008 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by fris (Post 14587009)
in the end they will say the officer used the force neccesary to control the boy.

agreed +

marketsmart 08-10-2008 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by <<E A T R O A D K I L L>> (Post 14588700)
He had drugs on him and resisted arrest. That idiot kid did 2 things wrong and HE couldve prevented this. Blame him not the cop.

thats why the cop got fired you dumb fuck...


Once back-up deputies arrived, 18-year-old Jeremy Rucker was pulled out of the truck and tasered and kicked while lying prone on the ground.

Sheriff Steve Loftis fired Tollison, who also faces criminal charges for the incident, which took place May 15.


"The fact that Deputy Tollison took his closed fist and struck the suspect in the face 13 times in my opinion was excessive," Loftis said.

Iron Fist 08-10-2008 05:21 PM

Yeah let's cut the movie to the point where it LOOKS like its all the cops fault...

Stupid.

Spunky 08-10-2008 05:24 PM

Damn punks deserve that sometimes

tical 08-10-2008 05:26 PM

I don't understand how people say just stop resisting... when someone is kicking the shit out of you how in the hell can you just sit there, it just isn't possible. Even after 1 hard blow, your hands fly right up.

Your hands can be behind your back and you can be willing but if you start taking painful blows to the face, head or anywhere else (whether you did something wrong or not) how can you NOT instinctively cover up or reach out to block the hand beating you?

Picture you getting your ass violently whipped by 3 people at once from every angle, and all you "NEED" to do is stay still and put your hands behind your back to make them stop. You don't know how many blows are going to come your way when you put your guard down, how long it will take for them to stop OR even if they are going to stop... a fight is a fight is a fight.

Could you do it?

jollyperv 08-10-2008 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 14588746)
Yeah let's cut the movie to the point where it LOOKS like its all the cops fault...

Stupid.

Yep. For all we know the kid may have shot at the cops. Sick of all this victim bullshit.

<<E A T R O A D K I L L>> 08-10-2008 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 14588730)
thats why the cop got fired you dumb fuck...


Once back-up deputies arrived, 18-year-old Jeremy Rucker was pulled out of the truck and tasered and kicked while lying prone on the ground.

Sheriff Steve Loftis fired Tollison, who also faces criminal charges for the incident, which took place May 15.


"The fact that Deputy Tollison took his closed fist and struck the suspect in the face 13 times in my opinion was excessive," Loftis said.

Im not saying i agree with that the cop did, not at all, and he should be fired because of that. But what im saying, dumb fuck, is that its the kids own fault. He couldve prevented this. Either carry no drugs with you or dont fucking resist poliece.

Stop making up shit that i didnt say.

bronco67 08-10-2008 05:29 PM

he was probably a little punk, like most teens, and deserved it. I say "go cops!!!"

<<E A T R O A D K I L L>> 08-10-2008 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tical (Post 14588758)
I don't understand how people say just stop resisting... when someone is kicking the shit out of you how in the hell can you just sit there, it just isn't possible. Even after 1 hard blow, your hands fly right up.

Your hands can be behind your back and you can be willing but if you start taking painful blows to the face, head or anywhere else (whether you did something wrong or not) how can you NOT instinctively cover up or reach out to block the hand beating you?

Picture you getting your ass violently whipped by 3 people at once from every angle, and all you "NEED" to do is stay still and put your hands behind your back to make them stop. You don't know how many blows are going to come your way when you put your guard down, how long it will take for them to stop OR even if they are going to stop... a fight is a fight is a fight.

Could you do it?

Are you saying the police just suddenly attacked him? Uhm how about they tried to arrest the kid and he resisted. And thats where the idiot kid is wrong. Im not sure where you get the idea that the police just out of nowhere started punching the kid before they tried to arrest him. Stop smoking.

<<E A T R O A D K I L L>> 08-10-2008 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tical (Post 14588758)
I don't understand how people say just stop resisting... when someone is kicking the shit out of you how in the hell can you just sit there, it just isn't possible. Even after 1 hard blow, your hands fly right up.

Your hands can be behind your back and you can be willing but if you start taking painful blows to the face, head or anywhere else (whether you did something wrong or not) how can you NOT instinctively cover up or reach out to block the hand beating you?

Picture you getting your ass violently whipped by 3 people at once from every angle, and all you "NEED" to do is stay still and put your hands behind your back to make them stop. You don't know how many blows are going to come your way when you put your guard down, how long it will take for them to stop OR even if they are going to stop... a fight is a fight is a fight.

Could you do it?

Man, your post really doesnt make any sense at all. I read it again to see if i was missing something but its total fucking bs. The police doesnt just run up to you and starts kicking you on the ground and then tells you im gonna arrest you. They tell you youre under arrest and thats where people start resisting.

Iron Fist 08-10-2008 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tical (Post 14588758)
I don't understand how people say just stop resisting... when someone is kicking the shit out of you how in the hell can you just sit there, it just isn't possible. Even after 1 hard blow, your hands fly right up.

Your hands can be behind your back and you can be willing but if you start taking painful blows to the face, head or anywhere else (whether you did something wrong or not) how can you NOT instinctively cover up or reach out to block the hand beating you?

Picture you getting your ass violently whipped by 3 people at once from every angle, and all you "NEED" to do is stay still and put your hands behind your back to make them stop. You don't know how many blows are going to come your way when you put your guard down, how long it will take for them to stop OR even if they are going to stop... a fight is a fight is a fight.

Could you do it?

Come ON! A cop is yelling at you to GET ON THE GROUND... and you stand there like a dumb fuck.. your going to get your head kicked in.. you do the crime.. you get what's coming to you.. stupidity is not a defense.

Needless to say, i'm sure the first half of this movie is that stupid twit probably acting like a tough guy and taking a swing at the cop or maybe he pulled out a gun who knows... but theres more to this story than some "victim" of police brutality.

marketsmart 08-10-2008 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by <<E A T R O A D K I L L>> (Post 14588772)
Im not saying i agree with that the cop did, not at all, and he should be fired because of that. But what im saying, dumb fuck, is that its the kids own fault. He couldve prevented this. Either carry no drugs with you or dont fucking resist poliece.

Stop making up shit that i didnt say.

the cop got fired.... so that must say something...

and btw.. i apologize for calling you a dumb fuck.. that was out of line even for me...

i just hate cops thats all...

marketsmart 08-10-2008 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 14588791)
Come ON! A cop is yelling at you to GET ON THE GROUND... and you stand there like a dumb fuck.. your going to get your head kicked in.. you do the crime.. you get what's coming to you.. stupidity is not a defense.

Needless to say, i'm sure the first half of this movie is that stupid twit probably acting like a tough guy and taking a swing at the cop or maybe he pulled out a gun who knows... but theres more to this story than some "victim" of police brutality.

FOR THE 3RD TIME.... THE COP GOT FIRED FOR THIS.....

<<E A T R O A D K I L L>> 08-10-2008 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 14588849)
FOR THE 3RD TIME.... THE COP GOT FIRED FOR THIS.....

Yes, because the cop went too far. I dont approve of violence like that. But its the kids own fucking fault. He was the one who could have prevented this. Do you understand that?

<<E A T R O A D K I L L>> 08-10-2008 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 14588841)

i just hate cops thats all...

They are not my best friends either but i hate it when people cry at cops no matter what. 9 out of 10 times when people get beaten by cops its because they resist arrest. Just dont fucking do that? How hard is it to understand the cops will win?

cykoe6 08-10-2008 06:15 PM

I hate cops as much as anyone but I would say the average 18 year old kid needs 13 punches in the face. Probably did him some good.

tical 08-10-2008 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 14588791)
Come ON! A cop is yelling at you to GET ON THE GROUND... and you stand there like a dumb fuck.. your going to get your head kicked in.. you do the crime.. you get what's coming to you.. stupidity is not a defense.

Needless to say, i'm sure the first half of this movie is that stupid twit probably acting like a tough guy and taking a swing at the cop or maybe he pulled out a gun who knows... but theres more to this story than some "victim" of police brutality.

I totally agree with you about doing what the police say when they say it... the point I was trying to make was whether the guy listened or didn't, as soon as you take a good & hurtful blow you instinctively defend yourself... then you get your ass kicked more for 'resisting', but how can you NOT resist when this happens?

Hypothetically, what if 1 blow was enough to make joe blow do as he was told... but he instinctively defends himself after that first blow, not fighting back but maybe reaching out, covering up, or trying to control the weapon (prob the worst thing to do ) or keep it from hitting him again.... that would be 'resisting' & give the cops all the right to keep whipping his ass.

This all happens so fast this guy thinks shit they're not going to stop and keeps trying to prevent injury (ie, covering up and not being ABLE to put his hands behind his back).


I'm not saying the cops shouldn't kick your ass if you don't listen, there's just a fine line between protecting yourself & resisting that is probably very difficult for a police officer to determine, especially in a situation like this.

tehHinjew 08-10-2008 06:30 PM

to protect and serve

bronco67 08-10-2008 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 14588841)
the cop got fired.... so that must say something...

and btw.. i apologize for calling you a dumb fuck.. that was out of line even for me...

i just hate cops thats all...

True story.

I knew a guy that hated the cops too. A white middle class guy with no real reason other than they pulled him over for speeding in his BMW twice in a month.

One day he was walking from a softball game in Harlem and got jumped by 3 black guys. Guess who saved his ass.... 2 cops who happened to be right around the corner. Now he fucking loves the cops.

tical 08-10-2008 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by <<E A T R O A D K I L L>> (Post 14588786)
Man, your post really doesnt make any sense at all. I read it again to see if i was missing something but its total fucking bs. The police doesnt just run up to you and starts kicking you on the ground and then tells you im gonna arrest you. They tell you youre under arrest and thats where people start resisting.

I know, I agree with that. I was just saying that resisting and protecting yourself might appear the same to police in some situations...

I can see how some people end up getting their asses kicked very badly because 1 or 2 "move your ass" blows caused them to cover up... putting the cop into a situation where he thinks the person is resisting and has to be more aggressive.

This card can be played very well by defense lawyers, etc... the cop was just doing his job, etc.

But some people might really not want to resist but can't help it because they're getting the shit kicked out of them.

marketsmart 08-10-2008 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 14588956)
True story.

I knew a guy that hated the cops too. A white middle class guy with no real reason other than they pulled him over for speeding in his BMW twice in a month.

One day he was walking from a softball game in Harlem and got jumped by 3 black guys. Guess who saved his ass.... 2 cops who happened to be right around the corner. Now he fucking loves the cops.

thats a nice story, but i have a concealed permit and i have always wanted to kill somebody, so i welcome someone to try to rob me...

and in all honesty, i dont hate all cops, but i do think there are a lot of cops who abuse their power and have no business being in law enforcement....

tony286 08-10-2008 06:46 PM

I have gotten pulled over by cops, had a girl busted in a place I worked and I was the manager in the building, had the cops come into a illegal after hours club I worked in NYC.While all the tough drugged out bikers hid downstairs in a closet,I dealt with them. I was always very polite like it was a social call, never got arrested never got harassed.

D Ghost 08-10-2008 06:46 PM

There are many other ways to put someone into submission besides punching them very hard 13 times directly in the face.

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Sheriff Steve Loftis fired Tollison, who also faces criminal charges for the incident, which took place May 15.

"The fact that Deputy Tollison took his closed fist and struck the suspect in the face 13 times in my opinion was excessive," Loftis said.
The cop was wrong and should never be allowed to work in law enforcement ever again. This is not arguable.

Anyone who thinks it was "ok" for the law enforcement agent to punch tlhis person 13 times directly in the face, needs to have a mental health evaluation.

sltr 08-10-2008 06:54 PM

people arguing on gfy re: policy brutality based on a 12 second video clip and a news story need 13 smacks to the face imo



oh & the taser 2x

<<E A T R O A D K I L L>> 08-10-2008 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tical (Post 14588943)
I totally agree with you about doing what the police say when they say it... the point I was trying to make was whether the guy listened or didn't, as soon as you take a good & hurtful blow you instinctively defend yourself... then you get your ass kicked more for 'resisting', but how can you NOT resist when this happens?
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Jesus dude...wtf are you talking about? You dont just get a blow like that!! Youre whole theory doesnt matter because youre making up a situation that wont happen. Please leave this thread man.

<<E A T R O A D K I L L>> 08-10-2008 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tical (Post 14588957)
I know, I agree with that. I was just saying that resisting and protecting yourself might appear the same to police in some situations...

Fucking hell! You drive me nuts dude. Protecting you from what????? What the fuck are you trying to say? Protecting yourself from the police who pulled you over????

Please, stop pissing me off. Stop typing in this thread...ok?

tical 08-10-2008 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by <<E A T R O A D K I L L>> (Post 14589052)
Fucking hell! You drive me nuts dude. Protecting you from what????? What the fuck are you trying to say? Protecting yourself from the police who pulled you over????

Please, stop pissing me off. Stop typing in this thread...ok?

Protecting yourself from BLOWS to the head or body. Yes.

Like I said, even if you are a dick to the cops and need a good smack with a baton to get in line... JUST BY YOU NATURALLY DEFENDING YOURSELF GIVES THE COPS ALL THE REASON THEY NEED TO KEEP KICKING YOUR ASS.

Nevermind, you live in a fantasy world where cops ALWAYS do the right thing and have robot-like self control.

MetaMan 08-10-2008 07:10 PM

cops are total pieces of shit, they are all on power trips and i have heard many stories of them coming home and beating their wives so it's not a big surprise when stuff like this happens.

it takes a certain type of piece of shit to become a cop and it is no secret that cops WILL fuck you up even if you do not resist. cops are there to make it sound like YOU ARE GUILTY and to get a confession out of you even though you may be INNOCENT.

cops DO NOT give a fuck about you or who you are or about the law so do not fool yourself. they are not here to protect you they are here to keep everyone in order so their puppet masters can keep control. and if you think for 2 seconds a cop wont beat or kill you you are 100% fooled.

i am not going to even bother responding to you "stop resisting" idiots. cops do not give a fuck about rules, they are slimeballs who will twist and turn any situation to benefit them.

and if that includes busting your fucking head in just cause no one is around to witness it do not be surprised when it happens to someone close to you. :2 cents:

D Ghost 08-10-2008 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sltr (Post 14589013)
people arguing on gfy re: policy brutality based on a 12 second video clip and a news story need 13 smacks to the face imo



oh & the taser 2x

There is no argument.

what else do you need lol? the clip of the 13 punches to face is enough. It would be wrong in ANY situation. The police are not paid by taxpayers to punch people in the face. Even the head Sheriff said this was excessive (more than fucking excessive, just plain disgusting and twisted) and fired the guy.

D Ghost 08-10-2008 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 14589079)
i am not going to even bother responding to you "stop resisting" idiots. cops do not give a fuck about rules, they are slimeballs who will twist and turn any situation to benefit them.

and if that includes busting your fucking head in just cause no one is around to witness it do not be surprised when it happens to someone close to you. :2 cents:

exactly ....

<<E A T R O A D K I L L>> 08-10-2008 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tical (Post 14589070)
Protecting yourself from BLOWS to the head or body. Yes.

Like I said, even if you are a dick to the cops and need a good smack with a baton to get in line... JUST BY YOU NATURALLY DEFENDING YOURSELF GIVES THE COPS ALL THE REASON THEY NEED TO KEEP KICKING YOUR ASS.

Nevermind, you live in a fantasy world where cops ALWAYS do the right thing and have robot-like self control.

Jesus fucking christ! Youre nuts dude. You wont get a blow to your head from a cop if you dont mess with them!!! A cop doesnt just starting hitting you so you dont have to fucking protect you from a cop. Omg, you are crazy...really.


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