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SoloGirlsContent 05-31-2008 09:31 PM

IF YOU'RE VOTING FOR JOHN SYDNEY MCCAIN-Think again
 
mister flip flop

https://youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c

tony286 05-31-2008 09:35 PM

you mean he isnt this straight talking maverick?

bringer 05-31-2008 09:47 PM

and the democrats, including hillary, promised to lower gas prices if they were given majority in 06. they've gone up quite a bit since then and they arent doing anything to help. in fact, they are now saying that high prices are GOOD because they force people to look for alternatives getting us off our "addiction foreign oil". just goes to show you that politicians will say and do whatever appeases the most people on any given day to obtain and keep power so expecting the truth from them is idiotic.

pocketkangaroo 05-31-2008 09:50 PM

People in this industry should be worried about McCain for other reasons, including his wanting to regulate blogs, message boards, and other forms of social networking online. To punish website owners for not reporting obscenity.

Those are more dangerous to the porn industry than 2257.

2012 05-31-2008 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14262095)
you mean he isnt this straight talking maverick?

+ stormtrooper of the Reagan Revolution

SoloGirlsContent 05-31-2008 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 14262117)
People in this industry should be worried about McCain for other reasons, including his wanting to regulate blogs, message boards, and other forms of social networking online. To punish website owners for not reporting obscenity.

Those are more dangerous to the porn industry than 2257.

Not to mention lumping all PORN with CP...guys on here need to wake up
Mccain is NOT their friend, even if his skin is white
He will put us into another war

MCBUSH GETS OWNED ON MEET THE PRESS

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ajm5J...eature=related

Babaganoosh 05-31-2008 09:55 PM

He's got my vote over Obama any day.

SoloGirlsContent 05-31-2008 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14262095)
you mean he isnt this straight talking maverick?

I'm afraid not

SoloGirlsContent 05-31-2008 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 14262123)
He's got my vote over Obama any day.

well I hope you have a back up job , dude

tony286 05-31-2008 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by simonsyinister (Post 14262122)
Not to mention lumping all PORN with CP...guys on here need to wake up
Mccain is NOT their friend, even if his skin is white
He will put us into another war

MCBUSH GETS OWNED ON MEET THE PRESS

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ajm5J...eature=related

It doesnt matter they think he will not raise their taxes but they forget if he gets to stack the supreme court more in his favor and makes porn illegal. They really wont have to worry about taxes anymore when the income stream is gone.

bringer 05-31-2008 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 14262117)
People in this industry should be worried about McCain for other reasons, including his wanting to regulate blogs, message boards, and other forms of social networking online. To punish website owners for not reporting obscenity.

Those are more dangerous to the porn industry than 2257.

many before him have wanted to do the same and have failed. frankly, id rather have the battle in court be over free speech then why a 25% sin tax shouldnt apply to all porn sales. thats a battle we CANT win. in the end both will hurt the country far beyond this industry so we lose either way. hurray

Babaganoosh 05-31-2008 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by simonsyinister (Post 14262131)
well I hope you have a back up job , dude

Nothing is going to happen to your job. This "sky is falling" mentality has existed for many, many years. If John Ashcroft and George Bush couldn't get anything done, chances are that McCain won't either. He's not as conservative as Bush and probably wouldn't spend a great deal of time or resources trying to define and prosecute obscenity.

marketsmart 05-31-2008 10:08 PM

the problem is not hillary, obama, or mccain.. the problem is the govt as a whole and that people in this country are sheep.. eating whatever the media feeds them.. until america wakes up and takes back the govt., it wont matter who's in the white house... nothing will get done, although i would be more afraid of mccain bringing us into another war or prolonging iraq for many more years..

what a lot of people dont realize is that the bush admin through the patriot act etc has paaved the way for future presidents to have unprecedented singular power and the ability to overstep congress at will....

tony286 05-31-2008 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 14262138)
Nothing is going to happen to your job. This "sky is falling" mentality has existed for many, many years. If John Ashcroft and George Bush couldn't get anything done, chances are that McCain won't either. He's not as conservative as Bush and probably wouldn't spend a great deal of time or resources trying to define and prosecute obscenity.

Read about his good good friend charles keating and as far as nothing happening there are some big trials going on that could effect our futures,they made 2257 really fucked. The thing that slowed down ashcroft was 911,if that didnt happen.It would of been very painful. now mccain comes in the whole porn squad is in place all ready to go up a notch.

pocketkangaroo 05-31-2008 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 14262138)
Nothing is going to happen to your job. This "sky is falling" mentality has existed for many, many years. If John Ashcroft and George Bush couldn't get anything done, chances are that McCain won't either. He's not as conservative as Bush and probably wouldn't spend a great deal of time or resources trying to define and prosecute obscenity.

All it takes is one more conservative judge in the Supreme Court to make obscenity prosecutions a whole lot easier.

Plus, why take the chance? McCain isn't going to do anything different for you than Obama would.

Babaganoosh 05-31-2008 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14262145)
Read about his good good friend charles keating and as far as nothing happening there are some big trials going on that could effect our futures,they made 2257 really fucked. The thing that slowed down ashcroft was 911,if that didnt happen.It would of been very painful. now mccain comes in the whole porn squad is in place all ready to go up a notch.

I know exactly who Charles Keating is. He has absolutely zero to do with this election. So far, McCain hasn't ever been involved in an anti-porn witch hunt. The bill that most of the uninformed webmasters are panicked about was the "Stop the Online Exploitation of Our Children Act" which (in my opinon) was NOT a thinly veiled attempt at heaping us into one group with cp pushers.

You can read the full text of that bill at http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill...bill=s109-4089

Babaganoosh 05-31-2008 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 14262150)
All it takes is one more conservative judge in the Supreme Court to make obscenity prosecutions a whole lot easier.

Plus, why take the chance? McCain isn't going to do anything different for you than Obama would.

I can't stand McCain. The last few elections have been more about voting for the lesser of two evils. I'd rather vote for a possible nutcase than an inexperienced racist radical like Obama. I may just write in a vote for Daffy Duck this time.

"If God wanted me to fly, he would have given me wings. If he wanted me to vote, he would have given me candidates."

tony286 05-31-2008 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 14262171)
I can't stand McCain. The last few elections have been more about voting for the lesser of two evils. I'd rather vote for a possible nutcase than an inexperienced racist radical like Obama. I may just write in a vote for Daffy Duck this time.

"If God wanted me to fly, he would have given me wings. If he wanted me to vote, he would have given me candidates."

What makes obama a racist? Please give me words out of his mouth not others that then pundits ran with.

bringer 05-31-2008 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14262174)
What makes obama a racist? Please give me words out of his mouth not others that then pundits ran with.

perhaps his membership and attendance of a church that has the exact same makeup a clan rally would have. large gathering of a single race listening to an angry person scream about how a different race is evil and how we must unit to overcome the harm they're bringing to "our" community.

Babaganoosh 05-31-2008 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14262174)
What makes obama a racist? Please give me words out of his mouth not others that then pundits ran with.

He's not stupid enough to make a racist remark in public. He went to Rev. Wright's church for 20 years. Wright is one of the biggest racist nutjobs I have ever seen in my life. He's right up there with Al Sharpton. The fact that Obama would go to Wright's church for 20 years without ever being appalled enough to quit going speaks volumes about his beliefs. Now that he's running for president he's suddenly so offended that he stops going?

It's laughable that some people believe that Wright's little racist tirade was his first. Obama has been listening to that shit for years and obviously agreed with him or he would have left the church long ago.

tony286 05-31-2008 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bringer (Post 14262180)
perhaps his membership and attendance of a church that has the exact same makeup a clan rally would have. large gathering of a single race listening to an angry person scream about how a different race is evil and how we must unit to overcome the harm they're bringing to "our" community.

thats not words from his mouth.

tony286 05-31-2008 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 14262181)
He's not stupid enough to make a racist remark in public. He went to Rev. Wright's church for 20 years. Wright is one of the biggest racist nutjobs I have ever seen in my life. He's right up there with Al Sharpton. The fact that Obama would go to Wright's church for 20 years without ever being appalled enough to quit going speaks volumes about his beliefs. Now that he's running for president he's suddenly so offended that he stops going?

It's laughable that some people believe that Wright's little racist tirade was his first. Obama has been listening to that shit for years and obviously agreed with him or he would have left the church long ago.

so for 20 yrs he had a master plan and never said a racist word but we can read into this mans mind?

Babaganoosh 05-31-2008 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14262184)
thats not words from his mouth.

So if I were to faithfully attend a clan rally for 20 years but was never heard uttering a racist remark in public I wouldn't be a racist?

bringer 05-31-2008 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14262184)
thats not words from his mouth.

so he must say something racist to be a racist? is that the new standard? or is it the standard you've granted him exclusively? im sure if mccain attended clan meetings you'd be all over that calling him a racist even without a sound byte to prove it.

tony286 05-31-2008 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 14262188)
So if I were to faithfully attend a clan rally for 20 years but was never heard uttering a racist remark in public I wouldn't be a racist?

That's not all that was talked about it was a church. I think people are getting their first glimpse in to a black church and it makes them nervous. Like I said before these people that are shocked and scream racist, I figure at least 50 percent of them have used the n word in the past 6 months.

tony286 05-31-2008 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bringer (Post 14262190)
so he must say something racist to be a racist? is that the new standard? or is it the standard you've granted him exclusively? im sure if mccain attended clan meetings you'd be all over that calling him a racist even without a sound byte to prove it.

Mccain voted against MLK bday being a holiday yep he loves black people . lol

tony286 05-31-2008 10:55 PM

You dont like obama thats fine all the power to you but my point is get real reasons not fabricated ones.

Babaganoosh 05-31-2008 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14262193)
That's not all that was talked about it was a church. I think people are getting their first glimpse in to a black church and it makes them nervous. Like I said before these people that are shocked and scream racist, I figure at least 50 percent of them have used the n word in the past 6 months.

86% of all statistics are made up on the spot. I don't care who uses racial slurs as long as that person isn't running for president.

Babaganoosh 05-31-2008 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14262198)
You dont like obama thats fine all the power to you but my point is get real reasons not fabricated ones.

Who are you to tell me my reasons aren't valid? If I don't want to vote for someone because I think they look funny or because their tie is ugly then that's my business. Do what you want to do with your vote but don't try to tell me what to do with mine.

bringer 05-31-2008 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14262193)
That's not all that was talked about it was a church. I think people are getting their first glimpse in to a black church and it makes them nervous. Like I said before these people that are shocked and scream racist, I figure at least 50 percent of them have used the n word in the past 6 months.

I think people who try and downplay a racist ideology arent any better than those spewing it. also, please stop using the "black church" excuse as a pass for racism. ive been to SEVERAL and not once did i hear the pastor belittle or demean an entire race. for all being "gods children", wright sure has a hatred and lack of respect for anyone outside his race. i guess because someone is white, in his eyes, they're destine to oppress the black man. that hate speech might be common in your church, but for any sane person, racial intolerance has no other name, no excuse, and no place in our society. maybe if you werent so subjective you'd see that someone held in such high esteem, as a preacher always is, has a profound effect on his "flock", often providing a foundation for their view points. honestly, do you think the government injected aids into the black community? if not, do you think its ok to have someone in his position teaching children that their government created aids to kill them? ive got an idea! lets get a transcript of wrights sermon and replace "BLACK" with "WHITE" and see how those words in that context compute in your racism calculator.

SoloGirlsContent 05-31-2008 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 14262210)
Who are you to tell me my reasons aren't valid? If I don't want to vote for someone because I think they look funny or because their tie is ugly then that's my business. Do what you want to do with your vote but don't try to tell me what to do with mine.

so you'd rather go with a guy that lies on just about ever policy..or a guy that, you've never heard say anything...but the folks around say something and he's a racist..do actually believe that or you ARE the racist, looking for "excuses" so you don't look racist... c'mon man You can look at all the video on John McSane LYING..but you don't care about that, do you...so this is a mute point..

SoloGirlsContent 05-31-2008 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bringer (Post 14262216)
I think people who try and downplay a racist ideology arent any better than those spewing it. also, please stop using the "black church" excuse as a pass for racism. ive been to SEVERAL and not once did i hear the pastor belittle or demean an entire race. for all being "gods children", wright sure has a hatred and lack of respect for anyone outside his race. i guess because someone is white, in his eyes, they're destine to oppress the black man. that hate speech might be common in your church, but for any sane person, racial intolerance has no other name, no excuse, and no place in our society. maybe if you werent so subjective you'd see that someone held in such high esteem, as a preacher always is, has a profound effect on his "flock", often providing a foundation for their view points. honestly, do you think the government injected aids into the black community? if not, do you think its ok to have someone in his position teaching children that their government created aids to kill them? ive got an idea! lets get a transcript of wrights sermon and replace "BLACK" with "WHITE" and see how those words in that context compute in your racism calculator.

blah blah blah..spin it any way you like..I have 2 things on my mind.. GET THE FUCK OUT OF IRAQ and GET MY KIDS SOME HEALTH CARE THAT'S AFFORDABLE.

MCBUSH ain't shit and you can take that to the bank

Babaganoosh 05-31-2008 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by simonsyinister (Post 14262217)
so you'd rather go with a guy that lies on just about ever policy..or a guy that, you've never heard say anything...but the folks around say something and he's a racist..do actually believe that or you ARE the racist, looking for "excuses" so you don't look racist... c'mon man You can look at all the video on John McSane LYING..but you don't care about that, do you...so this is a mute point..

First, you do know I am black...right? Also, if you read my above post you will see that I said I can't stand McCain either. Obama can't have my vote but I am seriously doubting McCain can either. I live in a red state so my vote will be pointless anyway. This state will belong to McCain regardless of my vote. I always vote in the presidential elections though. I feel like those that don't have no right to bitch.

BTW, I think the word you're looking for is "moot."

bringer 05-31-2008 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by simonsyinister (Post 14262217)
so you'd rather go with a guy that lies on just about ever policy..or a guy that, you've never heard say anything...but the folks around say something and he's a racist..do actually believe that or you ARE the racist, looking for "excuses" so you don't look racist... c'mon man You can look at all the video on John McSane LYING..but you don't care about that, do you...so this is a mute point..

so because i think obama and his cohorts are racist means im voting for mccain? idiot
i think hillary is the best of the 3 and she lies more than mccain about issues, history, etc. why arent you crying about her lies? is it because obama is your man and the point of this thread was a retarded attempt to boost his popularity by belittling his opponent?

xxweekxx 05-31-2008 11:22 PM

lol

Im black and im voting for obama, not because im BLACK but because mccain is an idiot

Anyway, Obama isnt racist. Rev Wright had some good points there..

White people have/and still oppress black people daily..

i drive a very nice car in a white area in NJ, i get pulled over at least 2X a week. Ive had cops ask me is that your car? is it stolen? etc.. Ridiculous shit..

Dont also forget about how white people had slaves and fucked em up..

The truth is black people really dont have as many opportunities as whites.. U can doubt it all you want, but take a look at the families that are richest.. all Whites, the top executives of companies, 99% white, a lot of black people are born into poverty than white people..

Since their lives suck they resort to drugs.. ALso if you are black you have a WAY higher chance of ending up in jail.. go look it up.. How many innocent black people have been sent to jail just cause a white man or woman pointed the finger at them? Thousands.... I dont know how to explain it but im a college grad, and well off black guy and i know the kinda stereotypical shit i go through and this is 2008. So Mr Wright does have some points..

bringer 05-31-2008 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by simonsyinister (Post 14262219)
blah blah blah..spin it any way you like..I have 2 things on my mind.. GET THE FUCK OUT OF IRAQ and GET MY KIDS SOME HEALTH CARE THAT'S AFFORDABLE.

MCBUSH ain't shit and you can take that to the bank

so what you're saying is you have no argument against what i said so you dismiss and divert it hoping it goes away? the true liberal comes forward! enjoy relying on your specious arguments every time you want to convey a point. im sure that'll work well for you in life.

bringer 05-31-2008 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx (Post 14262234)
lol
I dont know how to explain it but im a college grad, and well off black guy and i know the kinda stereotypical shit i go through and this is 2008. So Mr Wright does have some points..

heres an idea, stereotype others! thats the ticket to end something you disagree with, do it yourself!

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White people have/and still oppress black people daily..
i drive a very nice car in a white area in NJ, i get pulled over at least 2X a week. Ive had cops ask me is that your car? is it stolen? etc.. Ridiculous shit..
Dont also forget about how white people had slaves and fucked em up..
Since their lives suck they resort to drugs.. ALso if you are black you have a WAY higher chance of ending up in jail.. go look it up.. How many innocent black people have been sent to jail just cause a white man or woman pointed the finger at them? Thousands....
i guess because cops harrass you that means every white person is a racist who wants to keep you down? right?

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The truth is black people really dont have as many opportunities as whites.. U can doubt it all you want, but take a look at the families that are richest.. all Whites, the top executives of companies, 99% white, a lot of black people are born into poverty than white people..
if race is the only factor you're considering, whites are actually given less access to opportunities then blacks. how many scholarships and job openings are exclusively offered to blacks? how about whites? i guess you support affirmative action too? base the hiring process on skin color and exclude those who dont meet your quota. btw, if what you THINK were actually true, youd be living in the ghetto, uneducated and poor because of your skin color. how many WHITE women hold everything you claim a black man cant reach? a few? wouldnt that mean that skin color isnt the only factor? maybe we're sexist too? i guess you cant see past the group that includes you so your outrage is misguided.

baddog 05-31-2008 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14262135)
It doesnt matter they think he will not raise their taxes but they forget if he gets to stack the supreme court more in his favor and makes porn illegal. They really wont have to worry about taxes anymore when the income stream is gone.

You aren't playing fair Tony. If I am going to be nicer, don't intentionally throw out comments like this.

baddog 05-31-2008 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14262193)
I figure at least 50 percent of them have used the n word in the past 6 months.

That's at least the second time I have read you make that assumption. What are you basing that on? I never hear white people say it. Or is that 50% including blacks?

xxweekxx 05-31-2008 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bringer (Post 14262256)
heres an idea, stereotype others! thats the ticket to end something you disagree with, do it yourself!



i guess because cops harrass you that means every white person is a racist who wants to keep you down? right?



if race is the only factor you're considering, whites are actually given less access to opportunities then blacks. how many scholarships and job openings are exclusively offered to blacks? how about whites? i guess you support affirmative action too? base the hiring process on skin color and exclude those who dont meet your quota. btw, if what you THINK were actually true, youd be living in the ghetto, uneducated and poor because of your skin color. how many WHITE women hold everything you claim a black man cant reach? a few? wouldnt that mean that skin color isnt the only factor? maybe we're sexist too? i guess you cant see past the group that includes you so your outrage is misguided.

dude i have nothing against anyone. im not ignorant. My point is that being a black guy in USA isnt easy. THe fact i get pulled over has 100% to do with my race. They figure what is this young "BLACK" guy doing driving a 50k car. He probably stole it or does drugs?

Seriously i dont have to explain this, if ive been pulled over dozens of times just for the cop to ask me is the car stolen, that has to do 100% with my race..

Dont even let me get into how i went to Tennessee and i feel bad for blacks living out in the country there.. Every store/restaurant we went they looked at us like we were criminals.. Hows that for being black??

Also being black doesnt make it easier to get a job AT ALL! how many good positions do you know that are occupied by black people? Name 20 black CEOS.. anyway whatever dont wanna argue with you.. Unless you are a black RICH guy living in a RICH white area, you will never understand what i mean


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