Obamas charisma will take America to new heights worldwide
 

The man is absolutely amazing ? I see the worlds outlook on America changing very soon:)

I see a day where once again we will be respected as the world?s leader

:1orglaugh

what is his plan on saving the sinking dollar?

I agree with you.

Obama feels like christmas in the ghetto. Kids are excited but nothing is going to happen.

Believe it or not but.... But one step in saving the dollar is bringing respect back to the American brand

another step that he stresses is bringing jobs back to America and forcing large corporations to pay Americans a fair wage

What was Bushes plan??

Oh never mind I know :)

Bush plan was to outsource damn near every job in America to other countries and sell the products and services of the same to Americans

lots of money out.... little money in

Now he is begging ( this is beneath America by the way ) arab leaders to lower the price of oil... or increase production

begging

the man has damn near brung this country to its knees

Respect for the dollar will not deal with the supply and demand for the dollar. Yes "respect" has something to do with it, but since Obama will keep the troops in Iraq for his first full term there will be little "respect"

How does he plan on bringing jobs back to the USA while taxing those evil corps?

Bushs plan was the same as Bill Clintons and the same as Obamas.

If you "force" corporations to "pay a fair wage" that means higher prices and greater inflation and will cancel out the fair wage. Again supply and demand of the dollar.

Plus a great tax burden will be placed on those "getting a fair wage" to pay for all the entitlements. Not only a physical tax but an inflation tax.

Nothing will change with Obama.

And yes, bush sucked.

You realize obama is for outsourcing for nafta and for bringing in more immigrants to lower wages right?

I was once listening to a economist who said if tomorrow walmart gave everyone a 3 buck a hour raise . It would raise the cost of goods about 1.5 cents. That's the line corporations give oh prices will go up as they take their 100 million dollar bonuses. Bullshit.

plus the higher taxes. I agree there are lots of lines of bullshit, but they are coming from both sides.

We are hearing all the right problems but are given all the wrong answers.

hmm... well.... if it wasn't for short sighted liberal assholes that have prevented exploration, drilling and building new refineries in the US, we wouldn't have this problem.

Current refineries are only operating at 80-85 percent of capacity.

Taken from the Wyden report of 2001:

In the mid-1990s too much refining capacity, not too little, concerned
the nation's major oil companies. At that time, the oil and gas
industry faced what they termed "excess refining capacity," a
circumstance they viewed as a financial liability that drove down
overall profit margins. The industry reduced the total amount of
potential supply by closing down more than 50 refineries in the past
decade. Since 1995 alone, 24 refinery closings have taken nearly
830,000 barrels of oil per day.


Also oil is a traded commodity so there is no discount if its drilled here. $126 a barrel is $126 a barrel. Its not liberals fault gas is so high. Its W's and the republicans fault for lowering taxes and then going to war and borrowing to pay for it all.

The damage to the economy is irreparable in the short term. America's in muck for the next 10 yrs at a conservative estimate.

Yes, Bush was a fuckup, but the fiscal policies of the US since the early 70's ensured the inevitable decline of the dollar (subsequently the whole economy)...the Fed stopping M3 reporting a few years ago was the "Dead End" sign. It will be a long hard road but we can come out clean on the other side so long as we don't have rapid deflation. We will be a stronger nation when we do come out of it too imho. (the average joe will remember the true value of a dollar, we'll see a massive decline in bullshit credit, and we will be living up to our true industrial potential) Why? because we'll have a shitload of resources and a weak currency. Cheap, cheap, cheap. It won't matter if we raise wages four years from now because the companies will probably be trading in EUROS.

That being said, I agree with pussyserver. In a time like this, charisma, eloquence, change, and youth should not be underestimated. Besides, at least with Obama there's a CHANCE, a chance, he might do something different then the previous generation who has done nothing but...ahem...fuck it up for all of us.

I personally don't want to see this genealogy in the office: Bush, Clinton, Clinton, Bush, Bush, Clinton. <--Putting McCain in there would be no different.

Remember, People said FDR couldnt change anything in 1931 :2 cents:

I don't understand, he will still be talking after McCain wins?

Mccaine has a better chance of winning this instead:

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/...M5dI3/610x.jpg

That was a good line :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You're such a tool. You don't have your hand on the pulse of anything.

and you are such a tool your post in a thread without any opinion on the subject

Learn to think my friend... its fun

So he's going to force corporations to pay more, and also stop out sourcing? I find it hard to believe.

I think Obama CAN be a good president, but it's pretty obvious he's a phony. Anytime he's pressed on an issue he falls back on something similar to this..."These are just the attacks of the old politics in Washington. I represent a change."

His rise is more about the American people then him. People are so hungry for change they projected that onto him and his talent was that he was clever enough to latch onto it early on. Before Iowa, he wasn't really pushing the whole "change" thing that hard. Then he beat Hillary in Iowa and the press headlined it as "Change beats out Experience" and the next day every poster at Obama's speeches read "Change" in big bold letters. He's a clever guy and runs a good campaign but he's not this great figure that people have made him out to be.

But it's all a moot point as Mcain will beat him anyway. Look at the way they started carving him up this past week with GW's foreign policy comments and Obama took the bait hook line and sinker.

He better fix the dollar FAST... or ELSE!!!

OBAMA: 'We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK'...


Makes so much sense, but how Americans agree with this statement.
The majority think fuck yeah we're American we can do what we want.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

This is dead on how I feel about Obama. Every time I see him on TV he says the same shit over and over again and makes sure to fit in 50 stories that show how impressive and versatile his background is. "My Dad served his country." "My Mom is black and grew up poor." "My grandparents were immigrants." "My best friend in college played golf with George Bush." blahblahblahhhhhhhh

I would prefer a president who grew up homeless without any parents and told us his upbringing was none of our motherfucking business and had a real plan for the issues our country faces.

Try getting your news from someplace other than Karl Rove on FOX

Since when has anyone other than Americans seen the US as the "worlds leader"? :1orglaugh

While I usually enjoy your opinions and agree with you on this... You're a Canadian living in Costa Rica.

I thought he won that exchange. You can't get much worse than Bush, in a foreign country, comparing Obama to a Hitler appeaser. :1orglaugh

America needs way more then charisma

Can't imagine there isnt a way around that. Venezuela found a way around it. :winkwink:

Yeah just what we need another right wing nut job to tear up the earth so we can keep lining the oil companies profits. You are short sighted and far from intelligent.

ha ha ha.. Maybe the liberal assholes look at countries like Brazil where 40% if their fuel is sugarcane ethanol and they don't import any oil anymore.. or Iceland where 19% of their electricity and 80% of home heating is done using geothermal energy as opposed to more oil and coal.. and they know that opening more refinaries or drilling for more oil isn't the way to go for long term stable national security..

since bush's terms people think the president is a dictator and with a snap of his/her fingers they can "make" people do things.

Do not forget Obama is also for forced slave labor. 50 hours a year for each kid and almost as long for each adult, yes each adult, someone needs to watch the kids while they work for free. :thumbsup

Man there are some characters on this board. I can only laugh at your stupidity.

Obama is fooling all of you, by out smarting you.

Please, if you think for second this guy is really up to some "good", your a fool.

Cmon... wake up america, jesus, this is why we are a nation full of simple minded people.

ahh... so now the US is the same as Brazil? we can run the country on Volcanos?

really?

do you have any concept of the differences between the fuel needs of Brazil and that of the USA? can you find Iceland on a map? Any concept of the size of the population?

Ethanol? wow.

thats sort of ironic. the guy who was so delusional, he was convinced Ron Paul was going to become the first Supreme Intergalactic Ruler of the Universe is telling me i'm not smart.

You're truly an idiot.. Where did I say either one of those would be the holy grail solution for the US? Even an intellectually challenged person like yourself "should" be able to see that more oil is a losing proposition and that the longer the US takes to get off their ass, the worse the entire world is going to be.

I guess you have not read his plan
http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/Natio...nFactSheet.pdf

Good bless BARAK