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Barefootsies 04-14-2008 07:40 PM

Investment: So you have $10-20k and...
 
you are balancing out buying a new house. While you have some new projects moving forward that you budgeted for in 2008. You have some left over green. The objective is to add, or build more wealth. Stock market madness is not an option.

Do you take your extra money and...

1. Start more website project(s) you have been meaning to get around to.
2. Invest in rental property (mainly multi-unit)
3. Insert your Suggestion (other than giving it to you, or wiping with it).

Fire away.

tical 04-14-2008 07:49 PM

always fun to invest in new projects (lord knows i think of a million things a day), but i'd hold on to the $ while attacking those unfinished projects

i suppose sitting on it doesn't really meet your objective directly, but in the long run when you're all done... it does :)

then again, are we ever done? hehe

Barefootsies 04-14-2008 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tical (Post 14068725)
always fun to invest in new projects (lord knows i think of a million things a day), but i'd hold on to the $ while attacking those unfinished projects

i suppose sitting on it doesn't really meet your objective directly, but in the long run when you're all done... it does :)

then again, are we ever done? hehe

Very true mate.

The main projects at hand are redesigns to existing. Although I am starting on some bigger things, however, they are 2-5 year projects as I build the pieces. However, more than enough budgeted to cover that.

My thoughts were to maybe pick up an apartment building to two so I could have some more revenue coming in, and building up capital in the meantime. Something more "tangible" to the banks.

The virtual is good, and luckily for me, I used to work with the bank manager at my credit union back in the college days. So I do not get a lot of "internet grief" types of questions. Compared to my normal bank. But... I am looking for some more "tangible" or traditional things banks like to see to keep building wealth.

mortallove 04-14-2008 08:12 PM

really, can you buy a house for only 10-20k in the us??? how nice would it be???

crockett 04-14-2008 08:14 PM

no way would I buy a new house yet.. the prices aren't bottomed yet.

woj 04-14-2008 08:15 PM

Where are you picking up apartment buildings (or 2) with a $10-20k down payment? or did I read it wrong?

Barefootsies 04-14-2008 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 14068843)
Where are you picking up apartment buildings (or 2) with a $10-20k down payment? or did I read it wrong?

You can get 3-4 units here (SW MI) fairly inexpensive. There is a nice selection of low, and higher end multi-units available. Some $70-80k and others $150-200k. Just depends on the areas. No, not the ghettos. I am talking about some of the smaller towns, or suburbs, from here.

IllTestYourGirls 04-14-2008 08:26 PM

rentals. Everyone is losing their homes to the bank and government they will need a place to live.

Barefootsies 04-14-2008 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 14068840)
no way would I buy a new house yet.. the prices aren't bottomed yet.

Yeah. I keep thinking the same. They say 12-24 more months and a "maybe". But I do not want to live in my same place this year (no central air).

So I am thinking of getting a nice place, nothing over the top, but something with central air and more space. Fix it up a bit, and rent it out in a year or two. I do not plan on staying in this area, and the house I buy now will not be a house I stay in more than 3 years. I am looking at moving to the west coast, at least 6 months of the year, in the next 3-5.

But I need more space, and central air. Maybe I'll rent a nice place, and buy up some investment/rental property in the meantime. Just kicking some ideas around on how others are reinvesting.

Barefootsies 04-14-2008 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 14068892)
rentals. Everyone is losing their homes to the bank and government they will need a place to live.

Very true.

I kept hearing the stories about the foreclosures and shit in the bigger cities. But now when I drive around scoping property. I see more of those notices in the windows of places. I'd guess 2-3 in 10 have those notices now.

Kinda scary when it hits the smaller mid west cities.

:Oh crap

Barefootsies 04-14-2008 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mortallove (Post 14068830)
really, can you buy a house for only 10-20k in the us??? how nice would it be???

Down payment hoss.

Yes. You can still get a $200k house for $3k down here. 30 year fixed.

No, I do not live in Detroit. And before you think $200 is a bread box. It's a 4-5 bedroom, 2-3 bathroom type house. Again, depending on which part of the city you are in.

We are not talking about New York, and LA. This is mid-market midwest realty.

HouseHead 04-14-2008 08:39 PM

I am very interested in investing in some type of reality also. Would like to know more about picking up a small complex of apartments.. I am only 20, possibly in the next 5 or so years

mortallove 04-14-2008 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Insane Matt (Post 14068936)
I am very interested in investing in some type of reality also. Would like to know more about picking up a small complex of apartments.. I am only 20, possibly in the next 5 or so years


lol!!!!!! you are only 20... and you have been here since 2003... haha... you were 15 when you started with this!

Barefootsies 04-14-2008 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Insane Matt (Post 14068936)
I am very interested in investing in some type of reality also. Would like to know more about picking up a small complex of apartments.. I am only 20, possibly in the next 5 or so years

My business partner started out that way. While working at Pfizer (formerly Upjohn) he had bought 3 rentals, while renting somewhere else, before he bought his first house.

He then bought a cabin on the lake, and has been rebuilding it for 8-10 years. Last year it was appraised at over $500k. Nice little investment.

While I am single, have no kids, and a lot of extra money. I am looking for some ideas outside of the normal things I am thinking. But also in the market of tangibles. When you go to a traditional bank, you run into more questions about income when you are "self employed" and do not own shit they can take.

Seems the name of the game in getting bigger and better loans is they look at your income,.. "yeah that's great and dandy", and next look at what you own. I have had car dealers, and loan officers both tell me that being self employed, but with property, will open more doors than just the money, and being able to prove it.

It's not so much an issue now, but the first couple of years when I first started doing online full time I ran into that time, and again.

brand0n 04-14-2008 08:49 PM

gold bullion

Barefootsies 04-14-2008 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n (Post 14068963)
gold bullion


crockett 04-14-2008 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 14068843)
Where are you picking up apartment buildings (or 2) with a $10-20k down payment? or did I read it wrong?


Dude he's in Michigan you can buy a whole house in Detroit for $100.. for $10k he could probably buy the whole street.

Barefootsies 04-14-2008 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 14068990)
Dude he's in Michigan you can buy a whole house in Detroit for $100..

Sad but true. Old college roommate is homeland security over in Detroit. He said that many houses are selling for ultra cheap. Assuming they have not had all the plumbing, and wiring ripped out and sold.

:Oh crap



Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 14068990)
for $10k he could probably buy the whole street.

Not the whole street, but you throw $5k down on a four unit, and you can snap up a few of them for $20k. Depending on the area of town/city you are looking at.

I am sure if you went up to the hood, you could prolly snap up some nice deals. But I'm not interested in that. Old business partner tried that, and said it ended up costing more in time, and effort than it was worth. Best to stick to smaller towns, or better neighborhoods.

beemk 04-14-2008 09:11 PM

$100 doesnt even cover the taxes on a house for a month in detroit. you can get a total shitbox for 2-4k in the ghetto though.

Barefootsies 04-14-2008 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemk (Post 14069007)
$100 doesnt even cover the taxes on a house for a month in detroit. you can get a total shitbox for 2-4k in the ghetto though.

Bring in more casinos.

Save Kwame.

:winkwink:

OG LennyT 04-14-2008 09:27 PM

Buy up some POT... great stock that keeps going up.

Barefootsies 04-14-2008 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OG LennyT (Post 14069063)
Buy up some POT... great stock that keeps going up.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Only if I lived in Ann Arbor where they FINE you for smoking it in public (like S.F. I hear).

:winkwink:

OG LennyT 04-14-2008 09:43 PM

I was talking about POTASH CORPORATION OF SASKATCHEWAN INC (POT)

farkedup 04-14-2008 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14068886)
You can get 3-4 units here (SW MI) fairly inexpensive. There is a nice selection of low, and higher end multi-units available. Some $70-80k and others $150-200k. Just depends on the areas. No, not the ghettos. I am talking about some of the smaller towns, or suburbs, from here.

I just hit you up on ICQ, where the hell are you? I'm in SW MI LOL might be interested in working with you on some shit ;) its always nice to have some people actually in the area to do shit with.

Vendot 04-15-2008 02:34 AM

Are there some high end, good areas in Michigan where the crime is low? Which are the best ones to pick up property?

Ethersync 04-15-2008 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tical (Post 14068725)
always fun to invest in new projects (lord knows i think of a million things a day), but i'd hold on to the $ while attacking those unfinished projects

i suppose sitting on it doesn't really meet your objective directly, but in the long run when you're all done... it does :)

then again, are we ever done? hehe

If you sit on it don't sit on it in dollars. Keep it in Euros.

Barefootsies 04-15-2008 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by farkedup (Post 14069192)
I just hit you up on ICQ, where the hell are you? I'm in SW MI LOL might be interested in working with you on some shit ;) its always nice to have some people actually in the area to do shit with.

Kalamazoo area

Barefootsies 04-15-2008 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vendot (Post 14069705)
Are there some high end, good areas in Michigan where the crime is low? Which are the best ones to pick up property?

Yes there are.

I can't speak to all of Michigan, but I know around here I have seen property dropping anywhere from $20-70k since last summer. Also more of those foreclosed stickers in windows.

The Heron 04-15-2008 08:08 AM

I'd say buy some college housing down by the GVSU campus downtown, I expect that'll continue to grow in the coming years!

InternetIsForPorn 04-15-2008 08:22 AM

Definitely invest into real estate. I know how it is when you have a million ideas during the day, start working on some of them and then realize you are wasting too much time and need to finish your old projects and then your head explodes.

God I need to focus on fewer things...

Chio 04-15-2008 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14068692)
you are balancing out buying a new house. While you have some new projects moving forward that you budgeted for in 2008. You have some left over green. The objective is to add, or build more wealth. Stock market madness is not an option.

Do you take your extra money and...

1. Start more website project(s) you have been meaning to get around to.
2. Invest in rental property (mainly multi-unit)
3. Insert your Suggestion (other than giving it to you, or wiping with it).

Fire away.

Rental properties definitely. With all the coming for closures there will be no shortage of "good" renters.

Chio 04-15-2008 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 14068892)
rentals. Everyone is losing their homes to the bank and government they will need a place to live.

oops should have read the replies before posting. :Oh crap

Big Red Machine 04-15-2008 12:50 PM

I drove threw the local ghetto and man its getting bad....so many boarded up houses. Maybe we should invest in plywood...pfff

qwe 04-15-2008 01:30 PM

10-20k is nothing here... most people pay that just in fees (closing costs,lawyer,etc,etc) when they buy a house

beemk 04-15-2008 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vendot (Post 14069705)
Are there some high end, good areas in Michigan where the crime is low? Which are the best ones to pick up property?

i live 2 miles from detroit and crime is really low here, basically you cross one road and its like night and day. it depends on the police in your city. if i call the cops they show up in a few minutes, if you call them in detroit they might show up within the hour if you're lucky.

Mike Semen 04-15-2008 02:28 PM

I'm presuming you guys have decent rental management companies over in the US? I'm going to be selling my apartment here and will have a fair chunk of change to invest...

stev0 04-15-2008 02:32 PM

Buying a house and investing in rental properties with $10-20k... Am I missing something? Might be able to invest in a used truck.

stev0 04-15-2008 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qwe (Post 14072414)
10-20k is nothing here... most people pay that just in fees (closing costs,lawyer,etc,etc) when they buy a house

Or moving expenses! I spent close to $10k (about $8k) just moving to another province and back last month.

stev0 04-15-2008 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mortallove (Post 14068952)
lol!!!!!! you are only 20... and you have been here since 2003... haha... you were 15 when you started with this!

I remember selling avs sites while I was still in highschool... signed up for the free access originally, lol

tranza 04-15-2008 02:51 PM

You can get some kind of property for $10k only???????????????????????????????????


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