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ninavain 03-18-2008 08:44 AM

Obama Just Knocked It Out Of The Park
 
incredible speech Obama 08

xxxdesign-net 03-18-2008 08:50 AM

have you been inspired?

ADL Colin 03-18-2008 09:03 AM

Beautiful speech ...

We the people, in order to form a more perfect union.

Two hundred and twenty one years ago, in a hall that still stands across the street, a group of men gathered and, with these simple words, launched Americas improbable experiment in democracy. Farmers and scholars; statesmen and patriots who had traveled across an ocean to escape tyranny and persecution finally made real their declaration of independence at a Philadelphia convention that lasted through the spring of 1787.

The document they produced was eventually signed but ultimately unfinished. It was stained by this nations original sin of slavery, a question that divided the colonies and brought the convention to a stalemate until the founders chose to allow the slave trade to continue for at least twenty more years, and to leave any final resolution to future generations.

Of course, the answer to the slavery question was already embedded within our Constitution - a Constitution that had at is very core the ideal of equal citizenship under the law; a Constitution that promised its people liberty, and justice, and a union that could be and should be perfected over time.

And yet words on a parchment would not be enough to deliver slaves from bondage, or provide men and women of every color and creed their full rights and obligations as citizens of the United States. What would be needed were Americans in successive generations who were willing to do their part - through protests and struggle, on the streets and in the courts, through a civil war and civil disobedience and always at great risk - to narrow that gap between the promise of our ideals and the reality of their time.

This was one of the tasks we set forth at the beginning of this campaign - to continue the long march of those who came before us, a march for a more just, more equal, more free, more caring and more prosperous America. I chose to run for the presidency at this moment in history because I believe deeply that we cannot solve the challenges of our time unless we solve them together - unless we perfect our union by understanding that we may have different stories, but we hold common hopes; that we may not look the same and we may not have come from the same place, but we all want to move in the same direction - towards a better future for of children and our grandchildren.

This belief comes from my unyielding faith in the decency and generosity of the American people. But it also comes from my own American story.

I am the son of a black man from Kenya and a white woman from Kansas. I was raised with the help of a white grandfather who survived a Depression to serve in Pattons Army during World War II and a white grandmother who worked on a bomber assembly line at Fort Leavenworth while he was overseas. Ive gone to some of the best schools in America and lived in one of the worlds poorest nations. I am married to a black American who carries within her the blood of slaves and slaveowners - an inheritance we pass on to our two precious daughters. I have brothers, sisters, nieces, nephews, uncles and cousins, of every race and every hue, scattered across three continents, and for as long as I live, I will never forget that in no other country on Earth is my story even possible.

Its a story that hasnt made me the most conventional candidate. But it is a story that has seared into my genetic makeup the idea that this nation is more than the sum of its parts - that out of many, we are truly one.....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,338869,00.html

IllTestYourGirls 03-18-2008 09:14 AM

Did he make a speech about the economy?

Atticus 03-18-2008 09:15 AM

It was a great speech and he is a great speaker. Unfortunately that is his main qualification. In this day and age of media soundbites and 24 hour news this might be enough. An example of this is he could of diffused this situation last week but his comments after his pastor's sermons came to light were elusive at best. It took him and I can only assume his speech writers and advisors a week to come up with something that explained his views. That's not exactly leadership and honesty but "coveringyourassity"

I'm not sure who said this, think it was the NY Times but it hits it spot on.

'The troubling part is that the Obama campaign has become about how great the Obama campaign is.'

ninavain 03-18-2008 10:17 AM

I'LL Take his change over McCain anyday

escorpio 03-18-2008 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 13935257)
I'LL Take his change over McCain anyday

Then you should probably start backing Clinton. Obama doesn't stand a chance.

baddog 03-18-2008 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 13935257)
I'LL Take his change over McCain anyday

What change is that?

2012 03-18-2008 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13935281)
What change is that?

someone will be changing McStains diaper soon ... :Oh crap

baddog 03-18-2008 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by fartfly (Post 13935299)
someone will be changing McStains diaper soon ... :Oh crap

Oh, so he is old. Probably compared to you Obama is old too.

WTF does that have to do with change?

IllTestYourGirls 03-18-2008 10:35 AM

So what did Obama say about the fed bail out in his speech?

baddog 03-18-2008 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 13935368)
So what did Obama say about the fed bail out in his speech?

He is too busy with damage control to deal with issues.

uno 03-18-2008 10:35 AM

Is it on youtube yet?

uno 03-18-2008 10:37 AM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=m3HzL_MFegE

IllTestYourGirls 03-18-2008 10:38 AM

I heard Obama is black is that true?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zkEUda92a1c

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13935376)
He is too busy with damage control to deal with issues.


CosmicTang 03-18-2008 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13935281)
What change is that?

well for starters, Obama is igniting the youngsters to participate in the political process. That's something worth noting since Clinton and McCain couldn't garner their attention.

Another is that Obama is a GenXer. The country has been in the hands of the WWII and Baby Boomer generations long enough. I want to see my generation take over. I think we can do a better job.

I thought his speech was magnificent. I've never been excited about a presidential candidate in my life and he's the reason I voted in a primary for the first time.

Anyone who can get people excited about politics and participate and bring in the young vote is effecting change.

uno 03-18-2008 10:40 AM

Er wait... that doesn't look like the one posted above.

tony286 03-18-2008 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13935281)
What change is that?

Unless you havent been watching McCain has been so far up W's ass. People dont want 4 more yrs of this. Also come the general election, another bank fails ,gas is over $5 a gallon and things continue there shitty decline. No one will give a shit about terrorists or Iraq when the are struggling make ends meet.

IllTestYourGirls 03-18-2008 10:42 AM

what is obamas plan to change all of that? Universal health care?

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13935412)
Unless you havent been watching McCain has been so far up W's ass. People dont want 4 more yrs of this. Also come the general election, another bank fails ,gas is over $5 a gallon and things continue there shitty decline. No one will give a shit about terrorists or Iraq when the are struggling make ends meet.


baddog 03-18-2008 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 13935402)
well for starters, Obama is igniting the youngsters to participate in the political process. That's something worth noting since Clinton and McCain couldn't garner their attention.

Another is that Obama is a GenXer. The country has been in the hands of the WWII and Baby Boomer generations long enough. I want to see my generation take over. I think we can do a better job.

I thought his speech was magnificent. I've never been excited about a presidential candidate in my life and he's the reason I voted in a primary for the first time.

Anyone who can get people excited about politics and participate and bring in the young vote is effecting change.

There have been lots of candidates over the years that got young people excited about the process. Nothing new about that.

What will that do for the economy or anything else for that matter?

baddog 03-18-2008 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 13935424)
what is obamas plan to change all of that? Universal health care?

Thank you. More expenses should help.

uno 03-18-2008 10:48 AM

ok...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=pWe7wTVbLUU

CosmicTang 03-18-2008 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13935436)
There have been lots of candidates over the years that got young people excited about the process. Nothing new about that.

What will that do for the economy or anything else for that matter?

Like Obama has done? name one. As for what that will do, people who have hope and are excited are well motivated to help. People who become cynical and apathetic because they see the same game played by the same people are far less likely to have any enthusiasm.

tony286 03-18-2008 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 13935424)
what is obamas plan to change all of that? Universal health care?

Go to his site and you can read all about it. Also what Hillary and obama are talking about doing isnt universal health it still goes thru health insurance companies. Its not they want obama or Hillary they want something new that hopefully will get the country back on track. Following W's policies isnt going to do that.

IllTestYourGirls 03-18-2008 10:50 AM

howard dean

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Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 13935463)
Like Obama has done? name one.


tony286 03-18-2008 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13935438)
Thank you. More expenses should help.

The countries going down the toilet and your happy with the current path?

pocketkangaroo 03-18-2008 10:52 AM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblo...BushMcCain.jpg

D 03-18-2008 10:53 AM

Obama is certainly an inspirational speaker.

baddog 03-18-2008 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 13935463)
Like Obama has done? name one.

Kennedy and McGovern come to mind.

IllTestYourGirls 03-18-2008 10:57 AM

Obama sounds like a dictator. He is promising things he can not ever give. The president does not have the power to give tax cuts, the president does not have the power to change tax code, the president does not have the power to invest in manufacturing, the president does not have the power to deploy next generation broadband, the president does not have the power invest in rural areas, the president does not have the power to raise the min wage, the president does not have the power to Create a Universal Mortgage Credit, the president does not have the power to Ensure More Accountability in the Subprime Mortgage Industry, Create Fund to Help Homeowners Avoid Foreclosures and so forth. Where is all the money coming from again?

Man that is tiring so I will stop. He can not do any of those things.

btw I do not support McCain either

CosmicTang 03-18-2008 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13935491)
Kennedy and McGovern come to mind.

Ahh, RFK. I overlooked him, I remember his older brother first because he was a president. You're right. And you prove my point. This guy has mobilized the young and inspired the uninspired like no one since the John or Bobby Kennedy.

You're comparing him to RFK and how Bobby Kennedy moved people to care about their country and politics again. You don't see the significance in that?

baddog 03-18-2008 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 13935509)
Ahh, RFK. I overlooked him, I remember his older brother first because he was a president. You're right. And you prove my point. This guy has mobilized the young and inspired the uninspired like no one since the John or Bobby Kennedy.

You're comparing him to RFK and how Bobby Kennedy moved people to care about their country and politics again. You don't see the significance in that?

Cool, he inspires people. That and $3.85 will get you a venti mocha.

CosmicTang 03-18-2008 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 13935506)
Obama sounds like a dictator. He is promising things he can not ever give. The president does not have the power to give tax cuts, the president does not have the power to change tax code, the president does not have the power to invest in manufacturing, the president does not have the power to deploy next generation broadband, the president does not have the power invest in rural areas, the president does not have the power to raise the min wage, the president does not have the power to Create a Universal Mortgage Credit, the president does not have the power to Ensure More Accountability in the Subprime Mortgage Industry, Create Fund to Help Homeowners Avoid Foreclosures and so forth. Where is all the money coming from again?

Man that is tiring so I will stop. He can not do any of those things.

btw I do not support McCain either

Not by himself, no. But a president with a mandate of the people has an incredible amount of clout to push things through. Reagan got a lot accomplished because he had a clear mandate. If Obama has the support of the people he can get things done. Unless the Republicans in Congress decide to carry on with partisan politics instead of serving their constituencies.

IllTestYourGirls 03-18-2008 11:01 AM

Then why has he not won his own primary?

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Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 13935509)
Ahh, RFK. I overlooked him, I remember his older brother first because he was a president. You're right. And you prove my point. This guy has mobilized the young and inspired the uninspired like no one since the John or Bobby Kennedy.

You're comparing him to RFK and how Bobby Kennedy moved people to care about their country and politics again. You don't see the significance in that?


ADL Colin 03-18-2008 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 13935509)
Ahh, RFK. I overlooked him, I remember his older brother first because he was a president. You're right. And you prove my point. This guy has mobilized the young and inspired the uninspired like no one since the John or Bobby Kennedy.

You're comparing him to RFK and how Bobby Kennedy moved people to care about their country and politics again. You don't see the significance in that?

It's interesting. Obama's speechwriter, in an interview said that for his inspiration ?I actually read a lot of Bobby? Kennedy. ?I see shades of J.F.K., R.F.K.,? he said, and then added, ?King.?

IllTestYourGirls 03-18-2008 11:02 AM

most of those mandates take away civil liberties. :error

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Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 13935528)
Not by himself, no. But a president with a mandate of the people has an incredible amount of clout to push things through. Reagan got a lot accomplished because he had a clear mandate. If Obama has the support of the people he can get things done. Unless the Republicans in Congress decide to carry on with partisan politics instead of serving their constituencies.


CosmicTang 03-18-2008 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 13935529)
Then why has he not won his own primary?

He's won MANY primaries. He hasn't won the nomination yet. Two big differences between him and RFK:

1. Kennedy was political royalty. His brother was lionized by Americans so he
didn't have the same hill to climb as Obama who was an unknown.
2. Obama is running against a Clinton, who has as big a name in politics since
Kennedy, along with the Bush family.

IllTestYourGirls 03-18-2008 11:08 AM

He should have won the nom by now if he is as inspiring as people say. Or the next logical thought is Clinton is just as inspiring. :2 cents:

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Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 13935549)
He's won MANY primaries. He hasn't won the nomination yet. Two big differences between him and RFK:

1. Kennedy was political royalty. His brother was lionized by Americans so he
didn't have the same hill to climb as Obama who was an unknown.
2. Obama is running against a Clinton, who has as big a name in politics since
Kennedy, along with the Bush family.


CosmicTang 03-18-2008 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 13935536)
most of those mandates take away civil liberties. :error


By mandate I mean he has a clear message from the people that they support the direction he's going in.

What civil liberties do you think are threatened here? And if you want to talk about the greatest usurpation of civil liberties in the history of the United States you need not look further than the current administration.

Drake 03-18-2008 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin (Post 13935531)
It's interesting. Obama's speechwriter, in an interview said that for his inspiration ?I actually read a lot of Bobby? Kennedy. ?I see shades of J.F.K., R.F.K.,? he said, and then added, ?King.?

The Kennedy's didn't write their own speeches either.


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