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Maximus 10-09-2002 08:46 AM

First look at New VISA Registration Form
 
Here you go... the first look at the Visa Registration Form
Any comments?

http://www.websitebilling.com/visaregform.doc

ControlThy 10-09-2002 09:20 AM

Do they want a DNA sample with that?

tree 10-09-2002 09:22 AM

:throwup

PornBroker 10-09-2002 09:40 AM

USA only...

:ak47: V

Maximus 10-09-2002 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ControlThy
Do they want a DNA sample with that?
We will need a retenal scan, blood work, urine sample, colonoscopy, testicular scan, pap smear, finger prints and yes indeed the dna sample as previously mentioned. We will be sending out the registrataion kit shortly. ;-)

Hooper 10-09-2002 09:59 AM

Maximus.. dont you think it might be appropriate to give copies of these documents to the webmasters using websitebilling?

We would certainly appreciate receiving notification about items such as this.

ColKurtz 10-09-2002 10:00 AM

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The Machine 10-09-2002 10:05 AM

lol

Brown Bear 10-09-2002 10:08 AM

They want your Driver?s License Number?

The Machine 10-09-2002 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brown Bear
They want your Driver?s License Number?
and social.

Maximus 10-09-2002 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hooper
Maximus.. dont you think it might be appropriate to give copies of these documents to the webmasters using websitebilling?

We would certainly appreciate receiving notification about items such as this.

We sent out notices last week on this but only received the registration forms this morning. We are updating our IPSP FAQ page to answer questions and include the new form. We are sending out the form only to our High risk US clients via email with instructions and our "best practices" recommendations.

If you did not receive the original email last week please call us so we can make sure we have the correct email for you.

Jizar II 10-09-2002 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brown Bear
They want your Driver?s License Number?
crap:mad:

Amputate Your Head 10-09-2002 10:44 AM

1. Hard to get a US drivers License # if you don't live in the US.

2. What if you DO live in the US, but don't drive? Gotta be a licensed driver to operate a porn site? :1orglaugh

Maximus 10-09-2002 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
1. Hard to get a US drivers License # if you don't live in the US.

2. What if you DO live in the US, but don't drive? Gotta be a licensed driver to operate a porn site? :1orglaugh

I would imagine that space would be N/A. Not everyone drives.. maybe if youve had speeding tickets you cant do business with them...who knows.

Elephant_Gut 10-09-2002 10:56 AM

fuck this registration bullshit. I'm movin' my ass offshore!!

:321GFY :ak47:

TheFLY 10-09-2002 11:05 AM

Is this for the merchants to fill out or the surfers... ?

Amputate Your Head 10-09-2002 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Maximus


I would imagine that space would be N/A. Not everyone drives.. maybe if youve had speeding tickets you cant do business with them...who knows.

lol.... too many parking tickets gets ya on the TMF list huh..... :winkwink:

Maximus 10-09-2002 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elephant_Gut
fuck this registration bullshit. I'm movin' my ass offshore!!

:321GFY :ak47:

There are advantages to moving offshore. Although the domiciling cost will probably be greater than the registration fees.

We do know of a client who was doing a considerable volume offshore, not sure which country, but the bank held all their money just because. Told the client come here and try to sue us.... the regulations offshore protecting the indivdual are not like here in the states, so choose your domicile carefully.

If you do it right it could be beneficial.

cherrylula 10-09-2002 11:13 AM

check sig bwahahahahahaha

SykkBoy 10-09-2002 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
2. What if you DO live in the US, but don't drive? Gotta be a licensed driver to operate a porn site? :1orglaugh
like me....
oh welll, that's why we're putting the cleaning lady's name on everything......

Brown Bear 10-09-2002 12:15 PM

Why the hell would Visa want your drivers licence number?

That is absurd!

I have a drivers licence, but I can't see how that has anything to do with owning a porn site.

This is just one more way to get big brother monitoring your every move.

Would they also like me to have a GPS transmitter implanted in my body so they can track my location at all times?

cherrylula 10-09-2002 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

lol.... too many parking tickets gets ya on the TMF list huh..... :winkwink:

I forgot to pay columbia house for my cds too, so I figure they will dig that info up too eventually. :(

machineg 10-09-2002 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brown Bear
Why the hell would Visa want your drivers licence number?

That is absurd!

I have a drivers licence, but I can't see how that has anything to do with owning a porn site.

now adays they ask for your liscence to rent a movie, whats the problem
don't have it, dont show it,
I doubt very much You need it to set up shop :)

Brown Bear 10-09-2002 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by machineg

now adays they ask for your liscence to rent a movie, whats the problem
don't have it, dont show it,
I doubt very much You need it to set up shop :)

If they don't need it, then they shouldn't be asking for it.

I'm going to fill out one of those applications and in the space for the drivers licence I'm going to write FUCK YOU!

Shoplifter 10-09-2002 12:39 PM

It's actually not as bad as I thought.

The only thing is what do foreign nationals without US DL and SSN do?

I also wonder what Visa will make of all these new LLC's with no credit history.

machineg 10-09-2002 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brown Bear


If they don't need it, then they shouldn't be asking for it.

I'm going to fill out one of those applications and in the space for the drivers licence I'm going to write FUCK YOU!

:1orglaugh

Sly_RJ 10-09-2002 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
1. Hard to get a US drivers License # if you don't live in the US.

2. What if you DO live in the US, but don't drive? Gotta be a licensed driver to operate a porn site? :1orglaugh

Uhh... yeh... I don't have a drivers license. The next requirement will be a 4 inch cock or greater, we're all fucked!

Jizar II 10-09-2002 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

The next requirement will be a 4 inch cock or greater, we're all fucked!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

StacyCat 10-09-2002 01:40 PM

Okay, as of 3:40pm central time I have not recieved any e-mail from Websitebilling (my current processor) I recieved the e-mail last week, why no glimpse into what yall have?

Webby 10-09-2002 02:04 PM

What did you expect from VISA? Yea, I agree with you about renting a video as well and showing photo ID - fuck the US is messed... Next week we will have be issued with the new VISA credit and debit cards with micro chips containging your sperm count tests and linked to some GPS system - "for your own protection" of course :BangBang:

Webby 10-09-2002 02:07 PM

Can only say I sure as fuck am pleased I am actually "genuinely" offshore - could see problems like this coming for years now... sheesh!

Maximus 10-09-2002 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by StacyCat
Okay, as of 3:40pm central time I have not recieved any e-mail from Websitebilling (my current processor) I recieved the e-mail last week, why no glimpse into what yall have?
Hi stacy - last week we sent out an email informing the webmasters that this was coming. No wwe have the forms, we received them this morning. We have the url with the form for our current clients. everyone will get the email with the best practices and link to the form tomorrow. We also have the FAQ up in the last hour.

Remember something very important is the new descriptor requirements.

All consumers credit card statements will have to readsomthing like this - "IPSP NAME" *Website descriptor*

EX: "WSB" *Stacy Cat*

Visa claims there is too much customer confusion and this is causing chargebacks so now they want the website descriptor also.

We beleive this will have the opposite effect and actually will greatly increase chargebacks for many websites with explicit names. Denial of transactions with names like "Hot sexy girls* or the like will increase dramatically.

We have a way around this in our "Best Practices" recommendations that we are working on and sending out.

We are going to create a new thread on this subject because we beleive this is as important as the form itself...

andi_germany 10-09-2002 03:05 PM

So if you are a US citizen and lost your licence for some reason you are fucked?

CoolE 10-09-2002 05:19 PM

So I can't help but wonder how this will work for those of us who are international who are setting up US-based LLCs?

Is "Principle #1" us or our LLC agent?

If it is us then how will Visa react if we are offshore? And what will we put for SSN?

If it is our LLC agent then we put his SSN?

??????????

All the uncertainty here is very, very, very bad.

psyko514 10-09-2002 11:48 PM

they ask for your driver's license/ssn in order to do a credit check on you. you don't have to provide that information, but they don't have to approve your request if they can't properly check your credit history.

as for the dude who forget to pay for his colombia house cds. if the account went to a collection agency, it'll appear on your credit history and can potentially negatively affect you.

losing your driver's license cannot affect you negatively in regards to your credit history.

RockDaddy 10-10-2002 12:03 AM

Your DL# has nothing to do with a credit check. They just need your SS# for that.

More than likely they are going to run background checks on each applicant. That's probably where some of the $750 is going.

psyko514 10-10-2002 12:10 AM

dude, i work for visa and a good friend of mine works for the credit bureau.
if they cannot run the credit check with your ssn, they use your driver's license. or they use both in case one provided is fake.
a background check can be done just as easily with a ssn.

Kimmykim 10-10-2002 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
dude, i work for visa and a good friend of mine works for the credit bureau.

And I am the president of the United Nations. Only one person I know of who'd be from Visa and reading this board, and I'd guess he's way too busy to be posting anything, since he's been talking to processors quite a bit in the last 36 hours.

From what I have heard, Visa intends to verify the identity of each of the registrees, and DL/SSN or EIN is the easiest way to do it. They don't have to check your credit for that, they can just run the info against a db from several sources. I'm surprised they didn't ask for a copy of a state issued photo id for the principal listed in the corporation, like merch acct apps do.

psyko514 10-10-2002 12:45 AM

I am a customer service representative at TD Visa. I work a Mon-Fri 10:30-6:45 EST shift, assisting cardholders with their problems. Therefore, I have plenty of "off-time" to come on this board. I do not deal with the merchant aspect of Visa.
Regardless, TD Visa is Canadian, and my understanding is these regulations apply to Visa USA only currently.

If you require further proof, feel free to email me at psyko @ gmx . at. I'll give you the toll-free number for customer service, my name and my call centre. That way, you'll be able to call me and I can confirm my identity.

BTW, the UN doesn't have a president. It has a Secretary-General (Kofi Annan).

Think before you speak KimmyKim.

steffie 10-10-2002 12:49 AM

HMMM
Ok,, well I can see lots of chargebacks now coming already when the wife opens the credit card statement and it says

WSB - ESCORTSFORHIRE

We are all doomed!!

How about this one

WSB - COCKFLASHER
WSB - WIFETRADER
WSB - CERTIFIEDSTUDS

I am sorry as sad this might be, I do want to be at some dinner table where the wife goes

"Hunny, I just noticed on our credit card statement WSB-ESCORTSFORHIRE.COM-
COULD YOU FUCKING EXPLAIN YOURSELF and here are the divorce papers

You told me the 24.95 per month was for Newsweek

"No No hunny, thats a mistake I had a friend of mine, remember the single guy at work, he is the phone used my card because he forgot his in the car"

Wife goes to phone rrrrrring rrrrrring WSB can I help you
"We never charged this remove it NOW"

Chargeback!!!!!

(I know its not funny but)

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

>>>>No running to find another billing company <<<<<<<<<

btw, I am NOT with WSB its just an example, if I read correctly everybody is going to do that so in my case its gonna say CCbill or PSW


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