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Doctor Dre 12-28-2007 10:00 PM

Chuck Lidell VS Wanderlei Silva - Predictions
 
I predict Wand by submission (that's not even a joke, I think lidell will rock him, go for the kill and get subbed)

My reasons :
Axe smashes ice (Wand is called the Axe Murderer and Chuck the Iceman)
Bath in icy water (Chuck is called the Iceman and Wand baths in icy water as part of his training)

Unless chuck takes an axe bath tonite, he's done.

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g.../wandchuck.jpg
http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...om/wandlid.jpg

notoldschool 12-28-2007 10:03 PM

Nice pics. Liddell is gonna get all he can handle. I think its whoever gets one on the button. Liddell with an over hand right is likely considering their styles.

Doctor Dre 12-28-2007 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13575226)
Nice pics. Liddell is gonna get all he can handle. I think its whoever gets one on the button. Liddell with an over hand right is likely considering their styles.

Yeppers, I say 60/40 for Lidell in standup.

However, Wand is used to getting rocked and recovers quickly.... that's why I figured out he might sub him when Lidell goes for the kill ;)

iSMOKE 12-28-2007 10:08 PM

I think they're both too far past their prime for anyone to care. This fight would have been gr8 a few years ago. Chuck keeps getting his ass beat and Silva hasn't fought in how long...damn i cant even remember. I consider this to be 2 cans going at it for no reason and nothing to gain. I pick Silva by either KO or decision...just my 2 cents.

Inde 12-28-2007 10:10 PM

Silva by KO

Doctor Dre 12-28-2007 10:16 PM

(Wandy makes his way to the Octagon)

Joe Rogan: This is one Scary dude!!
Goldberg:The Axe Murderer is what they call him Joe, and tonight he looks to pick away at the Iceman!
(Joe rolls eyes)

(End of the fight)

Joe Rogan:OH! Chucks rocked! He's hurt Badley!
Goldberg:And it's ALLLLLLLL OVER!!! Wanderlei Silva has Knocked out Chuck Liddell!!!!
Joe Rogan:Let's get a replay of those vicious knees!

Doctor Dre 12-28-2007 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by iSMOKE (Post 13575237)
I think they're both too far past their prime for anyone to care. This fight would have been gr8 a few years ago. Chuck keeps getting his ass beat and Silva hasn't fought in how long...damn i cant even remember. I consider this to be 2 cans going at it for no reason and nothing to gain. I pick Silva by either KO or decision...just my 2 cents.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3v...ei-silva_sport

Watch this ... videos of his training.

He's worse then Sean Sherk.

notoldschool 12-28-2007 10:19 PM

watching silva train right now on spike. hes sick. Trains with a snorkal and vest. Crazy shit.

Nicky 12-28-2007 10:20 PM

I'm with Silva on this one actually

Doctor Dre 12-28-2007 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13575253)
watching silva train right now on spike. hes sick. Trains with a snorkal and vest. Crazy shit.

40 pounds vest...

rogan: talk us through that crazy knee that ended the fight

wandy: I told u, i fuck chuck

goldy: that replay brought to you by aliens vs predator 2

Jim_Gunn 12-28-2007 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iSMOKE (Post 13575237)
I think they're both too far past their prime for anyone to care. This fight would have been gr8 a few years ago. Chuck keeps getting his ass beat and Silva hasn't fought in how long...damn i cant even remember. I consider this to be 2 cans going at it for no reason and nothing to gain. I pick Silva by either KO or decision...just my 2 cents.

Once again on GFY someone, way overstating a case and undermining any small point they had by exaggeration. Wanderlei is only 31 years old. His last wins were in 2006 and 2005, and his two most recent losses were to Dan Henderson and CroCop, not some chumps. Did you see the UFC All Access with Silva training in a oxygen deprivation mask and sparring with no head gear? He looks pretty serious- moved to Las Vegas with his whole family and a training staff that lives with him 24/7. I think he is for real and he has a chance to not only beat Chuck, but take the UFC light heavyweight belt from Rampage who he has beaten twice in Pride already.

notoldschool 12-28-2007 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 13575264)
40 pounds vest...

rogan: talk us through that crazy knee that ended the fight

wandy: I told u, i fuck chuck

goldy: that replay brought to you by aliens vs predator 2

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Phil 12-28-2007 10:34 PM

happened??

Doctor Dre 12-28-2007 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT (Post 13575279)
happened??

Happening tomorrow
Greatest MMA event on US soil

Doctor Dre 12-28-2007 10:40 PM

http://i10.tinypic.com/6xfwl7c.gif

notoldschool 12-28-2007 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 13575301)

fucking awesome.

iSMOKE 12-28-2007 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 13575269)
Once again on GFY someone, way overstating a case and undermining any small point they had by exaggeration. Wanderlei is only 31 years old. His last wins were in 2006 and 2005, and his two most recent losses were to Dan Henderson and CroCop, not some chumps. Did you see the UFC All Access with Silva training in a oxygen deprivation mask and sparring with no head gear? He looks pretty serious- moved to Las Vegas with his whole family and a training staff that lives with him 24/7. I think he is for real and he has a chance to not only beat Chuck, but take the UFC light heavyweight belt from Rampage who he has beaten twice in Pride already.

What did i exaggerate? Training methods dont win fights. Anyone who knows MMA knows this fight means nothing. It gets americans blood flowing but other than that...silva beating chuck means nothing, chuck beating sivla means nothing.:2 cents:

notoldschool 12-28-2007 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by iSMOKE (Post 13575327)
What did i exaggerate? Training methods dont win fights. Anyone who knows MMA knows this fight means nothing. It gets americans blood flowing but other than that...silva beating chuck means nothing, chuck beating sivla means nothing.:2 cents:

What? The winner will most likely be in line to get a shot at rampage.

Doctor Dre 12-28-2007 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by iSMOKE (Post 13575327)
What did i exaggerate? Training methods dont win fights. Anyone who knows MMA knows this fight means nothing. It gets americans blood flowing but other than that...silva beating chuck means nothing, chuck beating sivla means nothing.:2 cents:

Silva beating Chuck means he's next in line after Griffen for Contention.

Chuck beating Silva means he's back in contention, and might get a shot after a couple fights.

Training methods win fights... Look at GSP. This fight means that the two of the 5 fighters with the best highlight reels are fighting agaisn't each other. The two guys that dominated their era are fighting together. That means something.

Almost like Ali Vs Tyson both fighting after their prime... but Wand's prime might not be over, he's only 31.

notoldschool 12-28-2007 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 13575364)
Silva beating Chuck means he's next in line after Griffen for Contention.

Chuck beating Silva means he's back in contention, and might get a shot after a couple fights.

Griffen Vs Silva would be a tasty treat.

Phil 12-28-2007 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 13575301)

Didn’t even twitch.
Another BBJ clown going down tomorrow.
Waz up Anthony.

Doctor Dre 12-28-2007 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13575366)
Griffen Vs Silva would be a tasty treat.

I really want to see Page VS Silva 3.

I think Page could actually pull that one off :)

Doctor Dre 12-28-2007 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT (Post 13575367)
Didn?t even twitch.
Another BBJ clown going down tomorrow.
Waz up Anthony.

Do you even have the slightest idea who Wanderlei Silva is ?
Why are you calling him a BJJ clown lol

iSMOKE 12-28-2007 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13575341)
What? The winner will most likely be in line to get a shot at rampage.

Sure, but what im saying is this fight is way past due. It would have had more meaning years ago. 2 'used to be good fighters' on losing streaks trying to get back to the top. If Silva beats chucky, is that a gr8 accomplishment? If chucky boy beats silva...is that anything special? Im still a silva fan and i am excited to see him fight but i just dont see how him beating chuck makes him all of a sudden something better than what he already is. I'm more interested in Fedor vs. rizzo. chuck vs. silva = good for drunk american bandwagon mma fans. :2 cents: :2 cents:

Phil 12-28-2007 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 13575378)
Do you even have the slightest idea who Wanderlei Silva is ?
Why are you calling him a BJJ clown lol

I’ve been watching PRIDE before you even knew it existed.

Doctor Dre 12-28-2007 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by iSMOKE (Post 13575381)
Sure, but what im saying is this fight is way past due. It would have had more meaning years ago. 2 'used to be good fighters' on losing streaks trying to get back to the top. If Silva beats chucky, is that a gr8 accomplishment? If chucky boy beats silva...is that anything special? Im still a silva fan and i am excited to see him fight but i just dont see how him beating chuck makes him all of a sudden something better than what he already is. I'm more interested in Fedor vs. rizzo. chuck vs. silva = good for drunk american bandwagon mma fans. :2 cents: :2 cents:

Yes, it would have been a lot bigger fight a year ago, when Lidell had his title and Wand got beaten by a 185er.

But if you look at wand's two loses... He lost agaisn't one of the top 2 heavyweight, and the #1 p4p at the time...

Lidell lost agaisn't Rampage (bad styles matchup) and Jardine (past his prime I guesS).

If Wand wins this fight, I see him having a title fight in the next year and maybe winning it.

Not so sure about Chuck.

jaysmoke 12-28-2007 11:13 PM

after Chuck gets his ass kicked, im sure Entourage will have plenty of cameos for him. Chucks time is over

iSMOKE 12-28-2007 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13575341)
What? The winner will most likely be in line to get a shot at rampage.

no one wants to see rampage vs. chuck rematch...the same exact thing would happen again. Chuck fights good fighters and loses. i cant argue that beating randy was gr8, but imagine that loser stepping foot into pride while he was running UFC...LOL@ that. He cant compete with top fighers. Chuck sucks and always has been overrated. Randleman wasnt out, he eye gouged tito and several others...i could go on and on but ill end up saying something crazy.

Doctor Dre 12-28-2007 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by iSMOKE (Post 13575408)
no one wants to see rampage vs. chuck rematch...the same exact thing would happen again. Chuck fights good fighters and loses. i cant argue that beating randy was gr8, but imagine that loser stepping foot into pride while he was running UFC...LOL@ that. He cant compete with top fighers. Chuck sucks and always has been overrated. Randleman wasnt out, he eye gouged tito and several others...i could go on and on but ill end up saying something crazy.

I have to agree there, except the fact that no one wants to see it... The hardcore fans don't, but the 'normal' chuck groupies would like too.

He always had good styles matchups for him. He's very brandable and I figure Joe Silva got told to keep him there.

Wand matches good with him as well, he might pull this one up but he'll never be #1 again as long as rampage is in the picture.

But as far as Wand, there is a possibility that he might get the belt.

Lance69 12-28-2007 11:21 PM

Silva by TKO. BJJ Clown LMAO I want what your smoking.

Phil 12-28-2007 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lance69 (Post 13575424)
Silva by TKO. BJJ Clown LMAO I want what your smoking.

TKO niqqa? I may be trolling Anthony here but TKO? How about $100 to back it up???

iSMOKE 12-28-2007 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 13575416)
I have to agree there, except the fact that no one wants to see it... The hardcore fans don't, but the 'normal' chuck groupies would like too.

Yea you're right. I keep speaking from a long time MMA fan's prospective. Me saying no one wants to see it wasnt too accurate now that i think of it. I'm sure UFC fans are really dying to see it but its just because they really dont know what they're talking about. They still sit around and drink beer while talking about how good tank abbott was. This fight will be good for the UFC and this event has a great card but i just cant respect the commercialization of MMA. But hey, $$$$ talks and UFC is growing more and more and making more and more. :2 cents:

iSMOKE 12-28-2007 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jaysmoke (Post 13575404)
Chucks time is over

:thumbsup:thumbsup It's sad to say he even had a time. Only in the UFC...

Doctor Dre 12-28-2007 11:42 PM

It was so painfull to listen to the people next to us at the bar last time telling each other how Jardine looked like a bad dude and that he would win and how Griffen was a TUF badass and he would kick this nowhere's ass.

What was even more worse is that they were actually right :(

iSMOKE 12-28-2007 11:43 PM

http://assets.proelite.com/media/pho...mcx_vlarge.jpg

iSMOKE 12-28-2007 11:51 PM

Rampage has already smashed Liddell up not once but 2x, 2x, 2x. So even if he beats silva i dont see how that puts him back in contention for the title. He would just get his ass handed to him again. At least silva can say he's beat jackson before but that was a longggg time ago and jackson has turned into a monster since then. Silva hasnt won a fight in years and the last person he can say he beat is fucking fujita. Henderson raped silva, jackson raped henderson. No ones gonna take the belt from jackson for a while. Chute box went to hell and so did silvas training. Sure he is doing some hi tech "looks cool" training but when you have no one to train with, all that shit means nothing when you step into the ring. It doesnt matter how in shape you are if you cant fight. Luckily for silva he's fighting a loser. I dont see him going anywhere after winning this fight.
:2 cents:It's almost bedtime here folks, have fun with this thread, peace :pimp

Doctor Dre 12-28-2007 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by iSMOKE (Post 13575520)
Rampage has already smashed Liddell up not once but 2x, 2x, 2x. So even if he beats silva i dont see how that puts him back in contention for the title. He would just get his ass handed to him again. At least silva can say he's beat jackson before but that was a longggg time ago and jackson has turned into a monster since then. Silva hasnt won a fight in years and the last person he can say he beat is fucking fujita. Henderson raped silva, jackson raped henderson. No ones gonna take the belt from jackson for a while. Chute box went to hell and so did silvas training. Sure he is doing some hi tech "looks cool" training but when you have no one to train with, all that shit means nothing when you step into the ring. It doesnt matter how in shape you are if you cant fight. Luckily for silva he's fighting a loser. I dont see him going anywhere after winning this fight.
:2 cents:It's almost bedtime here folks, have fun with this thread, peace :pimp

No one to train with ? He's been training at fucking Extreme Couture with Shawn Thompkins... lol

Now that he's there, the whole team Thompkins trains there too (Rashad Evans, Jardine, GSP, Stout, Homminick)

Gman.357 12-28-2007 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 13575301)

Chuck looked very trim and perhaps a bit tense at the weigh-in. Wandy looks more than ready. I think he'd fight Chuck in the parking lot if the UFC told him that's where it's going down. I've always had doubts about Chucks chin, and his last two fights are evidence that he can throw, but maybe not take a shot.

Wandy by KO. It will go a little longer than the 'Page fight did, but I see it ending the same way. Only much more brutally.

Doctor Dre 12-28-2007 11:57 PM

It's fucking hard to make a prediction on this fight seriously...
I've made the sub prediction... even thought it's halfway a joke, it could really happen.

They are close to be evenly matched with their respective style.

Gman.357 12-29-2007 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 13575534)
I've made the sub prediction... even thought it's halfway a joke, it could really happen.

Another thing that could happen in theory, although far-fetched, is the fight ending in a DQ. Let's say Wandy drops Chuck with a punch, then follows up with a stomp... to the head. Instant DQ by UFC rules. Hope Wandy doesn't forget what organization he's in.

:winkwink:


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