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12-24-2007, 06:41 PM

here is a simple question. why do most countries hate americans

is it jealousy ?
is it their attitude ?
is it their wealth ?
is it that they stick up for some who can't stick up for them selfs such as the people in Serbia or Croatia when Europe did not want to do anything about it ?
is it cause they tell some people the way it is ?
is it bushism ?

what do you think is the reason many countries hate Americans and have that hateful look when you go into their country with an American passport ?
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12-24-2007, 06:44 PM

It probably has more to do with your government rather than the people

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12-24-2007, 06:45 PM

Alot of it is our government has gone overseas and fucked with other governments,made promises they didnt keep. The people get pissed.
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12-24-2007, 06:52 PM

It is a combination of all of the aforementioned plus more.

JEALOUSY - not in most cases. but I am sure there are jealous folk out there.

ATTITUDE - Yes. First off the fact we call ourselves "Americans" and by doing so indicate that all Americans are from the United States bothers the shit out of our neighbors to the north, south.

WEALTH - Oh we're consuming capitalist gluttons. We take and consume and give back very little.

"is it that they stick up for some who can't stick up for them selfs such as the people in Serbia or Croatia when Europe did not want to do anything about it ?" - It's more because we dip our noses in shit that has nothing to do with us. We are not the world police. But whats worse though is that we usually meddle in shit that helps us out at the end of the day. There are genocides around the world any day of the week - Somalia? Nepal? Liberia? Why aren't we involved in the invasion of those arbitrary governments? Probably because we won't have shit to gain. yet we involve ourselves in the 'liberation' of the iraqi people (and their 10% of the worlds oil) and the occupation of the Afghan people (and their 90% production of the worlds hashish/poppy seeds).

We are arrogant, yes.

Bush is a dick, yes.
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12-24-2007, 06:54 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_policy

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12-24-2007, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by XSecurityAudit

ATTITUDE - Yes. First off the fact we call ourselves "Americans" and by doing so indicate that all Americans are from the United States bothers the shit out of our neighbors to the north, south.

I don't know about Mexicans but I don't know any fellow Canadians who give a shit that you call yourselves "Americans."

Hell, everyone I know calls you Americans too.

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12-24-2007, 06:55 PM

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12-24-2007, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by Azoy?

here is a simple question. why do most countries hate americans

is it jealousy ?
is it their attitude ?
is it their wealth ?
is it that they stick up for some who can't stick up for them selfs such as the people in Serbia or Croatia when Europe did not want to do anything about it ?
is it cause they tell some people the way it is ?
is it bushism ?

what do you think is the reason many countries hate Americans and have that hateful look when you go into their country with an American passport ?

People such as yourself.
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12-24-2007, 07:04 PM

my top 5:

* neo-imperialist foreign policy
* world's largest polluter
* world's largest user of fossil fuels
* decades of state sponsored terrorism in south america and the middle east
* majority of americans are uneducated, ignorant, opiniated, overweight fuckwits
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12-24-2007, 07:07 PM

Originally posted by Spunky

It probably has more to do with your government rather than the people

actually slim bag I am not American and it is not my government.
French Canadian here motherfucker.
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12-24-2007, 07:08 PM

Originally posted by kovacs

my top 5:

* neo-imperialist foreign policy
* world's largest polluter
* world's largest user of fossil fuels
* decades of state sponsored terrorism in south america and the middle east
* majority of americans are uneducated, ignorant, opiniated, overweight fuckwits

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12-24-2007, 07:09 PM

Most people dont hate Americans. They hate The United States Government. Of course, citizens of the United States are not bright enough to figure this out.
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12-24-2007, 07:13 PM

Sounds like you just wanna argue. Hope you made alot of money with your american sponsors and merry xmas
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12-24-2007, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by RageCash-Ben

Sounds like you just wanna argue. Hope you made alot of money with your american sponsors and merry xmas

argue ? not at all
just wondering what the common thoughts on this board are as there are many people on this board from many countries so you can get a global view and answer on this topic.
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12-24-2007, 07:17 PM

In single-fucking-word .. your double-standards and hypocrisy..

I could not find answer to some of my question from any American ..

Why India and Israel can have nukes but not North Korea?
Why Pakistan can have nukes but not Iran?
(spare me from your responsible state bullshit, you are the most irresponsible state of world)

Iraq had Weapons of Mass Destruction and it deserved to be attacked, OK .. you also have Weapons of Mass Destruction, why you don't deserve to be attacked by Russia, China and others?

Plus, you are a bunch of media brain-washed hypocrites, again.

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my top 5:

* neo-imperialist foreign policy
* world's largest polluter
* world's largest user of fossil fuels
* decades of state sponsored terrorism in south america and the middle east
* majority of americans are uneducated, ignorant, opiniated, overweight fuckwits

funny, but yeah .. makes sense

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12-24-2007, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by minusonebit

Most people dont hate Americans. They hate The United States Government.

And Govt. is chosen by non-Americans, right? Dude, they could chose better people to rule them.

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12-24-2007, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by Azoy?

actually slim bag I am not American and it is not my government.
French Canadian here motherfucker.

Why do most of English Canada hate you french seperatists? Get the fuck out of Canada then..
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12-24-2007, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by Azoy?

argue ? not at all
just wondering what the common thoughts on this board are as there are many people on this board from many countries so you can get a global view and answer on this topic.

Ok fair enough but you must have seen all the anti American threads before no? I just think it is really ironic when 99% of the people on this board do business with American sponsors, content providers or hosting companies.

I don't hate Americans. I think successive American governments have made mistakes but heck who's government hasn't?!?!

People are people. We all have the same fundamental needs and wants. No matter what country we come from.

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12-24-2007, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by Spunky

Why do most of English Canada hate you french seperatists? Get the fuck out of Canada then..
Generalization?

just shows you know nothing about nothing motherfucker.
it's like saying all Americans know what they are talking about.

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12-24-2007, 08:16 PM

Originally posted by kovacs

my top 5:

* neo-imperialist foreign policy
* world's largest polluter
* world's largest user of fossil fuels
* decades of state sponsored terrorism

hummm... I think you have the US confused with China
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12-24-2007, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by Spunky

It probably has more to do with your government rather than the people

it's also people. Go out and travel sometime, meet people from all over the world and it will be clear why
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12-24-2007, 08:25 PM

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12-24-2007, 08:26 PM

only the traitors hate America
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12-24-2007, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by bm bradley

hummm... I think you have the US confused with China
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12-24-2007, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by Azoy?

just shows you know nothing about nothing motherfucker.
it's like saying all Americans know what they are talking about.

I don't think about other countries and what people might think of them..I'm sure they don't give a fuck what anybody thinks anyways.

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12-24-2007, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by bm bradley

hummm... I think you have the US confused with China

looks like we've got yet another ignorant american on our hands
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12-24-2007, 10:13 PM

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12-24-2007, 10:36 PM

maybe they hate ... their freedoms ...

I heard some top guy say that, so it must be that ....

I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....
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12-24-2007, 10:40 PM

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12-25-2007, 03:08 AM

Originally posted by tony404

Alot of it is our government has gone overseas and fucked with other governments,made promises they didnt keep. The people get pissed.

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12-25-2007, 03:13 AM

we have become the world's bully and nobody likes bullies.

Originally posted by Azoy?

here is a simple question. why do most countries hate americans

is it jealousy ?
is it their attitude ?
is it their wealth ?
is it that they stick up for some who can't stick up for them selfs such as the people in Serbia or Croatia when Europe did not want to do anything about it ?
is it cause they tell some people the way it is ?
is it bushism ?

what do you think is the reason many countries hate Americans and have that hateful look when you go into their country with an American passport ?

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12-25-2007, 03:55 AM

its because of the americans are the pissboys for Jews
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12-25-2007, 04:27 AM

Originally posted by kovacs

my top 5:

* neo-imperialist foreign policy
* world's largest polluter
* world's largest user of fossil fuels
* decades of state sponsored terrorism in south america and the middle east
* majority of americans are uneducated, ignorant, opiniated, overweight fuckwits

QFT

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They killed off one of this worlds greatest races.

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12-25-2007, 04:36 AM

Allright once I am desperately seeking for a ways how to amuse myself let me put down what I observed:

1) LACK OF INFORMATION

- there are only superficial information about United States in Europe as only superficial information about Europe in US, people are not educated enough and don't understand that US is a different culture and US do also have a very low awareness about Europe

2) GENERAL LOW EDUCATION LEVEL / SELF CONFIDENT ATTITUDE

- the general attitude in US is to stand for yourself, fight / work / compete and that's completely allright and that's why this country still somehow works - but, unfortunately - on some topics like especially history / geography etc. in many cases the US guys are going to inevitably own themselves which doesn't help to give the nation a credit

3) VERY STRONG PATRIOTISM / PROPAGANDA:

Yes, the only way how to justify many things that are in fact screwing people in US is that it's everything allright and it's the best for the citizens of the most free country in the world (as the invention of the term "socialised medicine" in healthcare for exaple), which is something a person from the outside world just sees from 1000 miles away because of not beeing raised in this system

4) THE MOST DEGENERATED MASSMEDIA CULTURE IN THE WORLD

With the most serious know how in how to herd sheeps and manipulate people, and making money out of ignorance and conformity - US is the leader in the most superficial and idiotic ways how to amuse masses (Jerry Springer, Truck Championships, drama news, Friends etc. etc.) that is sucesfully beeing spread all around the world, but Europe doesn't really accept this that easily because there always was and always will be a choice.

Just a couple of positive points that come to my mind, I would want to state that:

- I regard a couple of US guys as some of the smartest people I know
- I love US dining and services (best in the world and I have traveled like 20 countries)
- I love US cars (FUCK the economy wrecks we drive here!)
- I regard US as the country no.1 what concerns the know how in sales and marketing
- I regard US as some of the hardest working people in the world (and many guys from Europe who think they would make a living in US would get their ass kicked real bad real soon)

RESUME:

US is a different culture that has been developed separately from the rest of the world, take it or leave it, the less information you have, the less US people you know, the easier it will be for you to incline towards "hate" but from a standpoint of a person that's been dealing with the US guys on a daily basis for a long time - US is not for everyone but any inclining towards "hate" is just a bullshit and a clear sign of low profile education and experience.

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12-25-2007, 05:08 AM

Carlos, you should post more often,
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12-25-2007, 05:15 AM

I think you're over reaching chief.

It's the government, and policy makers that are pissing off the globe.

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12-25-2007, 06:27 AM

Originally posted by Barefootsies

I think you're over reaching chief.

It's the government, and policy makers that are pissing off the globe.

Well, I would and wouldn't agree with you,
WHAT does a regular Joe know about the:

- Kjoto protocol
- the debts in south America,
- trusts / outsourcing / saving on healthcare etc.
- US invading Corea / Vietnam / Afghanistan / Iraq - all those were problematic incidents with a very strong opposition in Europe no matter if before 89 / after 89, these countries don't have a good experience with countries invading other countries after the World War II

IF he knew about this something - now that would be a true reason to be in an oposition for every say "liberal" or almost "left wing" thinking person but wouldn't neccessarily lead to "hate"

BUT all these facts are scandalised and touched on a very superficial level in the most popular tabloid media, furthermore

what a regular Joe is mainly exposed to is:

- regular killings, kids getting slaughtered with guns - something that just NEVER happened around here in the past 200 years (well besides Germany very recently)
- too many fat people to be seen on every uncensored public screening occasion, now everyone knows that people in US don't look like in "Baywatch" and every jerk is used to make fun out of it
- some US programs just are generally regarded as say "made for simplier people" and people watch that as ZOO

So in a way - yes, logically it would be mainly government that throws shade on the nation but MORE importantly, it's media and their feeding the masses with stuff with zero informational or any other value at all, which is unfortunately somehow accepted by the masses.

How many people from here were actually in the States? was that 0,5 pct.? How many of them ever read about the US history, how many of them know about Mayflower / about the Independence process / About the bill of rights / about the US legal system / about the modern history / about the way how it works in the states

So, I would say, even logically it should be exactly the opposite - It's more IGNORANCE than the government.

We are guilty just about the same as the US guys who are ignoring the outside world.

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12-25-2007, 06:33 AM

Beacause you guys (government) try to get in everyones face and meddle in everyones business. Then we have the average bible belt idiot americans too, they dont help.

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12-25-2007, 06:38 AM

Originally posted by kovacs

my top 5:

* neo-imperialist foreign policy
* world's largest polluter
* world's largest user of fossil fuels
* decades of state sponsored terrorism in south america and the middle east
* majority of americans are uneducated, ignorant, opiniated, overweight fuckwits

i prove my point that the rest of the world hates our freedom! when you are the us, you can do what you want

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12-25-2007, 06:42 AM

Originally posted by xmas13

Is that THE gfy user who publically disqualified himself by his own stupidity claiming that Slovakia is occupied with Gypsies?

Now this is a serious example of how should people NOT behave unless they are semi - impotent keyboard warriors locked in the comfort of their homes afraid of a human contact.

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12-25-2007, 07:00 AM

Originally posted by webmasterchecks

i prove my point that the rest of the world hates our freedom! when you are the us, you can do what you want

Well, honestly - I have to tell you I have traveled more than 20 countries in my life, and I never felt so chained by regulations and rules as in the states.

From the time I boarded the plane, there was always someone behind me telling what I can and what I can't:

"switch off the mp3 player"
"don't take any photographs"
"move on"

And I took that seriously because I know that it's not good to hassle with the regulations in the States and I am not a kind of type that would care plus I was on a visit so I will not be trying to pull a high on anyone.

I actually like order very much, am more of a German nature - but it's anyway something I am not used to and I am not used to be bothered by anyone.

One thing I was really seriously aware off - never ever try to hassle with Police - I know this is the basic rule and I could end up real bad - I don't have issues with language, and even I do typos I was usually regarded as an Irishman or a UK guy while in US so they would not get mad at me because of this, but I knew that once this would happen - just shut the fuck up and talk to the point...

You know here - you will just have a friendly talk and if you did just something like speeding or bad parking - they don't give a shit and sometimes just let you go or give you the lowest fine if you are not behaving like a hero and they find you ok.

Noone ever cares about anything around here, noone will be bothering you unless you bother him - I don't mean that it's always good and especially the tourists misuse it a big time because they couldn't really shout / piss / woomit / get drunk publically in their place and especially the british tourists are the worst white trash they could ever import here..

What I found out is basically:

US is some of the best displays of the old school "Sugar and Lash" principles:

- you give the people the best customer support / they can refund everything many services for free or with bonuses etc. etc. so you will be happy the companies the government is SO CARING about your comfort

BUT

once you break the rules noone will give a damn and you will end up real bad and you will make sure everyone knows that this is not the way to go... Jail / fines / lawsuits - whatever..

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12-25-2007, 08:36 AM

Originally posted by webmasterchecks

i prove my point that the rest of the world hates our freedom! when you are the us, you can do what you want

no you can't.
it is this attitude and know it all attitude that makes the rest of the world hate the unites states.
now go on and go to sleep cause you have to wake up pretty early in the morning to milk those cows.
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12-25-2007, 08:50 AM

Countries don't hate americans... Countries can't hate or love.

Besides that, you are grossly misinformed. USA actually bombed Serbia.

I really don?t want to say anything else. I feel dumber by just reading this thread?
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12-25-2007, 10:31 AM

Originally posted by donnie

Countries don't hate americans... Countries can't hate or love.

Besides that, you are grossly misinformed. USA actually bombed Serbia.

I really don?t want to say anything else. I feel dumber by just reading this thread?

which is what i said in the original post

"is it that they stick up for some who can't stick up for them selfs such as the people in Serbia or Croatia when Europe did not want to do anything about it ?"
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12-25-2007, 10:35 AM

Chauvinism some american (not all) are looking at others people like we were moron because we don't live in USA or don't speak english very well
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12-25-2007, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by Spunky

It probably has more to do with your government rather than the people

Yup, exactly.
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12-25-2007, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by bm bradley

hummm... I think you have the US confused with China

There I fixed the bottom of his quote so it more accurately reflects Chinese history.

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my top 5:

* neo-imperialist foreign policy
* world's largest polluter
* world's largest user of fossil fuels
* 5,000/yrs of state sponsored terrorism

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QFT

And I will add...

They killed off one of this worlds greatest races.

Do you mean the ones who figured out how to use stones as tools?
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12-25-2007, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by Azoy?

here is a simple question. why do most countries hate americans

is it jealousy ?
is it their attitude ?
is it their wealth ?
is it that they stick up for some who can't stick up for them selfs such as the people in Serbia or Croatia when Europe did not want to do anything about it ?
is it cause they tell some people the way it is ?
is it bushism ?

what do you think is the reason many countries hate Americans and have that hateful look when you go into their country with an American passport ?

Its probably something to do with arrogance, a perfect example are the select sample questions you have asked
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12-25-2007, 11:20 AM

because they dont have many elephants?

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