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12-24-2007, 01:32 AM

Tonight me and a friend went to Hollywood to hang at a cool bar and it got late and didn't want to drink and drive so we went to a strip club here in LA on sunset, forgot the name to get some non alcohol drinks before driving home . Man there were some hot ass girls in this place. Every girl in the place came and tried to get us to pay for lap dances and we just tried to make small take with them. We told them right off the bat we were not interested but if they wanted to sit and chat thats cool. So we played this game with about 15 girls, about 5 sat down and talked to us. Out of the 5 there was about 3 that were just smoking hot. I would have gave them a 8-9 from 1 to 10. Me or my friend which is a male performer also would tell them in a nice way the run down on what we do for a living. Every single girl went how much do the girls get paid? We said 5 to 10 grand a week depending on what they will do and how hot they are. Every girl said ewww thats not enough money, I would never do that for that little of money. I make a grand a night dancing or more. Man no wonder it is getting harder and harder to get girls to work in porn. Anyone else notice this? Cant believe we still have all the girls we have with agents.
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12-24-2007, 01:34 AM

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12-24-2007, 01:36 AM

True but forsure the girls who give porn a try and like it agree it's much better then stripping.

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12-24-2007, 01:39 AM

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True but forsure the girls who give porn a try and like it agree it's much better then stripping.

not true I have seen a ton of porn girls go back to stripping and hooking. A lot of porn girls move to vegas to do just that
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12-24-2007, 02:02 AM

Maybe if they went non-nude....

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12-24-2007, 02:28 AM

strippers are a guys best friend!

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12-24-2007, 02:37 AM

it could be.. and I'm just reaching out on a limb here...

that 80% of the jackasses who come in there pretend to be someone who can hook someone up with whatever...

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12-24-2007, 02:39 AM

Originally posted by donnylong

Every girl said ewww thats not enough money, I would never do that for that little of money. I make a grand a night dancing or more. Man no wonder it is getting harder and harder to get girls to work in porn. Anyone else notice this? Cant believe we still have all the girls we have with agents.

EVERY hooker, oops, I mean stripper says that.

I get he same lines here, and I can assure you that they are NOT making even half that on a daily basis, or even monthly. Thye all claim they make, whatever their highest day ever was. Sure, the sun might shine on the dog's ass once in a while. But there is no way in hell around here that they are making that much.

But they all use that line foo. They are making $100 an hour, or whatever.

I tell them, "This is not a negotiation, and I am not a John. This is what we pay, and this is the work we pay for. You're in, or out."

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12-24-2007, 02:40 AM

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12-24-2007, 04:36 AM

the problem is that you are offering them money... strippers live on coke... not money... everyone but you knows that. :D
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12-24-2007, 05:09 AM

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12-24-2007, 07:41 AM

People kiss thier ass's too much. If everyone would treat them like shit, the world would be a better place.

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12-24-2007, 08:05 AM

I have several stripper friends that do videos and that do not, the main thing is they make the money and are not plastered all over the net. It is not about how much they make all of the time, just cause we can pay them an extra grand a week they still will not go for it. The girls that make 7 bucks an hour are a lot better for videos I think.

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12-24-2007, 08:22 AM

I can see that a girl is a buck wild stripper, there is no perminate record of it as there is with video.
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12-24-2007, 08:24 AM

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12-24-2007, 08:47 AM

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12-24-2007, 08:52 AM

you should have asked her if the 1K she claims to make include facials and BBBJ with CIM in the back room of the strip club
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12-24-2007, 08:55 AM

how does that make them full of themselves?

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12-24-2007, 09:40 AM

... so your saying you couldn't close the deal ? Did you show them your watermark ? :D

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12-24-2007, 09:46 AM

Originally posted by Azoy?

you should have asked her if the 1K she claims to make include facials and BBBJ with CIM in the back room of the strip club

That could be but there is no record of it to haunt her for the rest of her life.When I worked in a jack shack a hundred years ago lol. The owner was going to do a website with all the girls. None of them wanted to be on it, now they could give a 100 hand jobs a day but that wasnt the same as having it documented on video or pics forever.
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12-24-2007, 09:48 AM

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... so your saying you couldn't close the deal ? Did you show them your watermark ? :D

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12-24-2007, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by donnylong

Tonight me and a friend went to Hollywood to hang at a cool bar and it got late and didn't want to drink and drive so we went to a strip club here in LA on sunset, forgot the name to get some non alcohol drinks before driving home . Man there were some hot ass girls in this place. Every girl in the place came and tried to get us to pay for lap dances and we just tried to make small take with them. We told them right off the bat we were not interested but if they wanted to sit and chat thats cool. So we played this game with about 15 girls, about 5 sat down and talked to us. Out of the 5 there was about 3 that were just smoking hot. I would have gave them a 8-9 from 1 to 10. Me or my friend which is a male performer also would tell them in a nice way the run down on what we do for a living. Every single girl went how much do the girls get paid? We said 5 to 10 grand a week depending on what they will do and how hot they are. Every girl said ewww thats not enough money, I would never do that for that little of money. I make a grand a night dancing or more. Man no wonder it is getting harder and harder to get girls to work in porn. Anyone else notice this? Cant believe we still have all the girls we have with agents.

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12-24-2007, 10:12 AM

Perhaps they have seen your work.
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12-24-2007, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by Barefootsies

EVERY hooker, oops, I mean stripper says that.

I get he same lines here, and I can assure you that they are NOT making even half that on a daily basis, or even monthly. Thye all claim they make, whatever their highest day ever was. Sure, the sun might shine on the dog's ass once in a while. But there is no way in hell around here that they are making that much.

But they all use that line foo. They are making $100 an hour, or whatever.

yea, I always thought they are full of shit too... Lapdances are $20? half probably goes to the club owner, so that's $10/lapdance for the girl, so she would have to do 100 lapdances a night to pull in a grand... There is no way a girl will consistently do 100 lapdances a night, ton of time is pissed away by dancing on stage, talking with guests, etc...

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12-24-2007, 10:45 AM

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None of them wanted to be on it, now they could give a 100 hand jobs a day but that wasnt the same as having it documented on video or pics forever.

Yup. That is the same thing the local hookers around here have said.

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12-24-2007, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by Barefootsies

EVERY hooker, oops, I mean stripper says that.

I get he same lines here, and I can assure you that they are NOT making even half that on a daily basis, or even monthly. Thye all claim they make, whatever their highest day ever was. Sure, the sun might shine on the dog's ass once in a while. But there is no way in hell around here that they are making that much.

But they all use that line foo. They are making $100 an hour, or whatever.

I tell them, "This is not a negotiation, and I am not a John. This is what we pay, and this is the work we pay for. You're in, or out."

Yea so true but, one girl of the five which was in my book the hottest in the place, we sat and watched her try every guy in the place for a lap dance. She was getting nowhere and then she talked to us and gave us that bullshit how it was a slow night but she makes 1000 a night. Yea right! The place was busy and she was not making shit. None of the girls were. Thats why I said these girls are full of themselves. Or more like full oh shit
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12-24-2007, 11:50 AM

Strippers usually wildly over exaggerate how much money they make. Anyway, there are so many hot girls who love porn nowadays getting in the biz, so no need to try talking strippers into making movies. I used to be a big strip club goer, and loved it. I even pulled a lot of girls out of clubs up in New Jersey, and Toronto back in the 90's and in South Florida earlier in this decade. But I don't have time anymore, and can no longer stand the cigarette smoke and booze atmosphere anyway.
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12-24-2007, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by Jim_Gunn

Strippers usually wildly over exaggerate how much money they make. Anyway, there are so many hot girls who love porn nowadays getting in the biz, so no need to try talking strippers into making movies. I used to be a big strip club goer, and loved it. I even pulled a lot of girls out of clubs up in New Jersey, and Toronto back in the 90's and in South Florida earlier in this decade. But I don't have time anymore, and can no longer stand the cigarette smoke and booze atmosphere anyway.

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12-24-2007, 12:33 PM

You must be really new in this business if you think you can get a stripper to do porn. Even if they do say yes, which they won't, they will never show up.
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12-24-2007, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by aico

You must be really new in this business if you think you can get a stripper to do porn. Even if they do say yes, which they won't, they will never show up.

Don't overstate your case now. If you are a legit name producer and you talk to the right girls in the right strip clubs, it is *very* possible to get some strippers to do porn for the first time and have them show up. I have recruited strippers many, many times in many clubs all over the eastern US and Canada over the years. It's just not easy though or worth wasting your time and money at strip clubs for the express purpose of recruiting however!
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12-24-2007, 12:46 PM

The strippers in my area have to pay the dj/house around 35 dollars a night and tip each bouncer 5-10 bucks each. The rest they keep. You would be surprised how many guys just pay them to sit and talk while they spew bullshit stories trying to get them to come home with them. If they are making 1000 a night in my town they are working after 2am though sucking and fucking. An avg night would be 200. 400 or more and they are happy but I have seen them leave with nothing after they pay the house and all.

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12-24-2007, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by aico

You must be really new in this business if you think you can get a stripper to do porn. Even if they do say yes, which they won't, they will never show up.

50% of the girls I film are or were strippers while they did videos.

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12-24-2007, 01:29 PM

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You must be really new in this business if you think you can get a stripper to do porn. Even if they do say yes, which they won't, they will never show up.

Not true as someone else said a lot the girls in porn use to be strippers. The thing is times have changed. Look at all the girls out here in LA hooking doing what they call "privates" . You know how many times I have been told from a girl they have to get done by a certain time, Then I hear them on there phone booking a private on my set. But I was not at the club to recruite lol. Just was stating that it is not as easy as it use to be. I have got strippers to do porn in the past as well. These girls more and more are becoming more full of themselves.
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12-24-2007, 02:29 PM

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But I don't have time anymore, and can no longer stand the cigarette smoke and booze atmosphere anyway.

Does that mean you will not hit the strip clubs during AEE or Internext?

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12-24-2007, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by NemesisEnforcer

Does that mean you will not hit the strip clubs during AEE or Internext?

I will if there is a sponsored event there and my peers and colleagues are hanging out. Or if I am hanging out with customers or friends that want to go once in a while. But other than that, I hardly care about strip clubs anymore, unlike the old days where I would go into a place like Mons Venus in Tampa wearing silk underwear and nylon sweatpants and a condom underneath for the express purpose of getting a dancer to grind me until I shot a load in my pants, he he.
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12-24-2007, 08:43 PM

Originally posted by Jim_Gunn

... I would go into a place like Mons Venus in Tampa wearing silk underwear and nylon sweatpants and a condom underneath for the express purpose of getting a dancer to grind me until I shot a load in my pants, he he.

My dentist does that also but he does not wear any underwear or prophylactic.

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12-24-2007, 08:54 PM

Everyone is in the game for money, it seems.
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02-10-2008, 12:16 AM

Recruiting strippers in Hollywood on Sunset Blvd is probably a lot harder than anywhere else. All girls in Hollywood are very media savvy and if they are hot they have dated a few celebrities and seen the mansions and had a taste of the good life for a few moments. If you you want hot strippers you are better off recruiting from other areas and states. Go in when it's slow, right around the first of the month....lather rinse repeat
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02-10-2008, 01:23 AM

Keep going back there. Then you will come to a day where she's broke. Then bam ! Start your schpeel again.

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02-10-2008, 02:40 AM

Girls aren't making anything close to that here in Central Florida.

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I've always hated shooting strippers. Most of them are awful to work with. Give me a cock sucking/double anal porn star any day. They LOVE shooting our softcore stuff.

So true.

You can get strippers here if you like, but it's easier for me to convert some girl in this college town then trying to retrain a trick. Strippers are hard to work with, and are always pushing the envelope of my patience. College cuties come in, suck a mean one, get paid, and go home. Nice and easy.

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02-10-2008, 06:02 AM

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02-10-2008, 08:23 AM

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02-10-2008, 08:49 AM

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02-10-2008, 08:51 AM

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The strippers in my area have to pay the dj/house around 35 dollars a night and tip each bouncer 5-10 bucks each. The rest they keep. You would be surprised how many guys just pay them to sit and talk while they spew bullshit stories trying to get them to come home with them. If they are making 1000 a night in my town they are working after 2am though sucking and fucking. An avg night would be 200. 400 or more and they are happy but I have seen them leave with nothing after they pay the house and all.

Yeah people underestimate how much a stripper can make really. The payment structure to the few strippers I have known personally were as follows.

If they show up to work between 6-8pm they only have to pay the house $100 as a tip out (along with tipping the bouncers which make them feel secure, walk them to their cars, bring them water etc)

Every hour after 8 their tip out fee increases by another $100. Obviously if you show up at 11pm its going to be much busier then at 6 so its unfair to the girls who have been there since opening to come in later and try to get a piece of the pie.

So if someone shows up at 12 and wants to leave a 3am its going to cost them $500 dollars tip-out for that night.

If the girls are serious and pull full shifts 6pm-2 am then those are the ones that can easily clear 1k a day thats only 6-7 dances an hour and whats an average song 2-3 minutes? Thats not counting tips just a standard cheapskate $20 lapdance.

If they get a guy to upgrade to a VIP room or champagne room they know they are bring in $300-400 minimum not counting tips for whatever time they spend up there.

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02-10-2008, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by comeplay

Yeah people underestimate how much a stripper can make really. The payment structure to the few strippers I have known personally were as follows.

If they show up to work between 6-8pm they only have to pay the house $100 as a tip out (along with tipping the bouncers which make them feel secure, walk them to their cars, bring them water etc)

Every hour after 8 their tip out fee increases by another $100. Obviously if you show up at 11pm its going to be much busier then at 6 so its unfair to the girls who have been there since opening to come in later and try to get a piece of the pie.

So if someone shows up at 12 and wants to leave a 3am its going to cost them $500 dollars tip-out for that night.

If the girls are serious and pull full shifts 6pm-2 am then those are the ones that can easily clear 1k a day thats only 6-7 dances an hour and whats an average song 2-3 minutes? Thats not counting tips just a standard cheapskate $20 lapdance.

If they get a guy to upgrade to a VIP room or champagne room they know they are bring in $300-400 minimum not counting tips for whatever time they spend up there.

Yeah. I have heard similar. Depends on the club though. The Vu around here, the girls have to tip out $300 per shift. So if they do not show, they still owe the house $300. So we get a lot of strippers contacting us to do a shoot or two and make them money to go back to work.

However, I prefer NOT to use strippers because they are a pain in the ass. We used some when we first started, but after the first year. I routinely pass on them. After about 6 months of being a stripper, they get into the 'games', and greedy aspects. Also thinking they are something special because greasy old fucks with a roll of $1 bills thinks they are the "hottest thing on earth".

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02-10-2008, 09:32 AM

If you want to piss a stripper off. When she tells you she can earn more than a thousand $ a night reply with something like " thats interesting because we represent the IRS and according to your last returns you make $250 a week ?"

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