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adultbandwidth 11-30-2007 12:39 PM

Guaranteed -- We will BEAT your bandwidth pricing!
 
http://www.inforelay.com/imgs/hdrlogo.gif Price Match/Beat Promotion

Promotion valid until December 15, 2007.

InfoRelay Online Systems, Inc. a company that has provided complex managed hosting, high bandwidth connectivity, and colocation since 1995, has just completed some additional 10 gigabit upgrades, incorporating additional 10GE connections to our providers.

We are running a limited time promotion for GFY users only, and we guarantee to match or beat any price from any qualified competitor*. Please read the terms below, then contact us with your request.

We GUARANTEE that we will match or beat any publicly advertised bandwidth pricing for commitments over 100Mbps, and in most cases, we will match or beat written private quotes/offers provided to you by our competition*.

If we cannot match or beat such pricing, we will provide you with one month of free bandwidth services (500Mbps at no charge, you must cover cross-connect fees) with no contract required, at which point you may decide whether or not you'd like to continue with us.


* Terms
  • We welcome the opportunity to match/beat all pricing, however the terms below do apply (if you do not meet the terms, feel free to contact us, but we cannot make any guarantees). Please make sure that you mention GFY when asking us to match your current provider's pricing.
  • Bandwidth is available as part of this offer at 55 S. Market Street, San Jose (Market Post Tower), 1656 McCarthy Blvd (Milpitas, CA), Equinix (Ashburn, VA), Equinix (600 W. 7th, Los Angeles), Switch and Data (Reston, VA). At management's discretion, we may choose to honor this offer for our other satellite facilities, such as One Wilshire (Los Angeles), Wilshire Annex (Los Angeles), NAP of the Americas (Miami, FL), 1275K Street (Washington, DC), and others.
  • In order to be a "qualified competitor," we require that the competitor has been in business (legally incorporated) for at least one year. We require that the competitor have their own AS number and connect to at least two upstream providers, or be a Tier 1 network (does not purchase IP transit from other providers). We will attempt to match/beat offers from non-qualified competitors, however we can only provide this guarantee to qualified competitors.
  • For written offers that are not publicly advertised, we reserve the right to anonymously confirm availability or confirm legitimacy by contacting the company that has offered the written quote, at management's discretion.
  • We guarantee to beat bandwidth pricing only. This applies to bandwidth via cross-connections, or bandwidth purchased in addition to collocation space (which will be priced separately). This guarantee does not apply to dedicated servers, managed services, load-balanced or complex hosting, support services, or any other services.
  • We will match bandwidth-only pricing quoted by competitors -- for example, if a competitor is providing a 100Mbps unmetered server for $X, we will not provide 100Mbps of bandwidth via cross-connect for that price.
  • We may require a one year term in order to match/beat pricing, at our discretion.
  • Current customers with non-delinquent accounts are eligible; however this offer applies to bandwidth only. Customers who are purchasing managed services or rack space and power in conjunction with bandwidth are ineligible, since in many cases, blanket discounts have been applied to other services due to contract volume. Current customers may be required to extend existing contracts by one year.
  • New customers taking advantage of this promotion must begin service before December 20, 2007. At management's discretion, we may allow service to begin before or after December 20.
  • Offer valid only for in-building Ethernet connectivity and not valid for SONET connectivity. Setup fees may apply for 10,000Mbps (10GE connections) and higher at management's discretion.
  • Offer valid until 12/15/2007, or until an additional 2,000Mbps is sold, whichever comes first.

Special Add-Ons
  • Because this promotion applies to bandwidth only, we are providing the option to add server(s) and/or rack space to your package. The prices below include no bandwidth. Simply add negotiated bandwidth rates to the below rates for a total price:
    • Pentium IV 2.8, 3.0, or Core II Duo Server (depending on inventory), 1GB of RAM, 80GB HDD.
      • $95 setup, $225/month
    • Intel Dual Xeon Woodcrest 5130, 4GB DDR2 ECC RAM, 2x147GB SCSI Drives, RAID1
      • $495 setup, $395/month
    • 1U Colocation Space, 2A 120VAC Power
      • $45 setup, $195/month
    • Locking 1/2 Cabinet, 20A 120VAC Power
      • $695 setup, $596/month
    • Locking Full Cabinet, 20A 120VAC Power
      • $995 setup, $995/month
    • Other options available, please contact us.

View promotion details by clicking here.

wanted 11-30-2007 12:41 PM

I negociate 1$ per TB of bandwidth !

adultbandwidth 11-30-2007 02:12 PM

All pricing requests should be sent to sales AT inforelay DOT com. You should also provide a link to publicly advertised pricing, or provide a quote that you've gotten from one of our competitors.

Also, our pricing is generally done on a per megabit per second basis. The terms of this price match offer requires a minimum of 100Mbps. If you have a competitor quote for 30TB or more, we'd be glad to evaluate the opportunity and provide a quote on that as well.

polle54 11-30-2007 04:23 PM

good luck pirating some costumors :)

adultbandwidth 11-30-2007 04:41 PM

Thanks. We like to think of it as saving you money and providing quality bandwidth :-)

Chef86 11-30-2007 05:01 PM

Good luck :)

minusonebit 11-30-2007 05:25 PM

I bet you can't beat my price... :)

marketsmart 11-30-2007 05:30 PM

your hardware pricing SUCKS..... sorry but $225 a month for a server w/o bandwidth....

stick to the bandwidth.. leave the hardware for someone with a clue....

k thnx

Matt_WildCash 11-30-2007 06:42 PM

The publicly quoted prices most companies advertise is about double what real customers pay. So the "publicly quoted" price doesn't sound so hot.

Cash 11-30-2007 11:04 PM

Guaranteed? :)

adultbandwidth 12-01-2007 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13452791)
I bet you can't beat my price... :)

I bet we can. Just ask by submitting a sales ticket. :thumbsup

adultbandwidth 12-01-2007 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 13452804)
your hardware pricing SUCKS..... sorry but $225 a month for a server w/o bandwidth....

stick to the bandwidth.. leave the hardware for someone with a clue....

k thnx

We use quality Dell and Supermicro servers that have been thoroughly tested. They are hosted at our cages in Equinix and Switch and Data, facilities used by Fortune 500 & 100 companies as well as banks and government agencies. As you can imagine, we need to cover the cost of rack space and power, as well as the hardware.

This promotion focuses on bandwidth, however hardware pricing is negotiable with a large enough bandwidth commitment.

SmokeyTheBear 12-01-2007 12:18 AM

i am getting my bandwidth free so beating that would mean you are paying me to use your bandwidth.

so my question is , how much will you pay me to use your bandwidth ?

adultbandwidth 12-01-2007 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cash (Post 13453730)
Guaranteed? :)

Yes, guaranteed! Or we'll give you the best price we can, and 500Mbps free for one month with no commitment so you can see if you'd like to continue with us.

adultbandwidth 12-01-2007 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 13453941)
i am getting my bandwidth free so beating that would mean you are paying me to use your bandwidth.

so my question is , how much will you pay me to use your bandwidth ?

Sorry, no payments. This offer applies to 100Mbps commitments and beyond -- you're getting 100Mbps or more of bandwidth without compensating your host in any way? Who is your host?

Snake Doctor 12-01-2007 12:28 AM

This is not a very well thought out promotion.

Why would I move from a host I know and trust to someone I've never heard of just because you'll match the price I'm paying?
My current host is already matching the price I'm paying. (DUH)

Not only that, but why is the hardware a separate issue? You'll match bandwidth prices but not server prices, and based on the few hardware prices you posted here, most of us would end up paying more to host with you, someone we've never heard of, who registered for the board about 5 minutes ago.


I'll pass mmmmkay?

Snake Doctor 12-01-2007 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultbandwidth (Post 13453938)
We use quality Dell and Supermicro servers that have been thoroughly tested. They are hosted at our cages in Equinix and Switch and Data, facilities used by Fortune 500 & 100 companies as well as banks and government agencies. As you can imagine, we need to cover the cost of rack space and power, as well as the hardware.
.

So does anyone who's a real host.

You think companies like techie media, natnet, isprime, mojohost, etc are hosting their customers on AMD 233's in their mother's basement?

adultbandwidth 12-01-2007 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 13453968)
So does anyone who's a real host.

You think companies like techie media, natnet, isprime, mojohost, etc are hosting their customers on AMD 233's in their mother's basement?

I'm sure the companies that you describe run quality shops with good hardware.

If you don't like the hardware pricing, then colocate your own equipment and buy space from the facility directly -- our bandwidth is available via cross-connect since we're located within carrier neutral facilities.

While some may be unfamiliar with us as a company, I'd be glad to answer any questions that you have. We've been in this business since 1995. You may wish to use some tools such as Fixedorbit (www.fixedorbit.com) to compare our network connectivity to some of our peers. Here we are:

http://www.fixedorbit.com/AS/33/AS33597.htm

adultbandwidth 12-01-2007 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 13453963)
This is not a very well thought out promotion.

Why would I move from a host I know and trust to someone I've never heard of just because you'll match the price I'm paying?
My current host is already matching the price I'm paying. (DUH)

Not only that, but why is the hardware a separate issue? You'll match bandwidth prices but not server prices, and based on the few hardware prices you posted here, most of us would end up paying more to host with you, someone we've never heard of, who registered for the board about 5 minutes ago.


I'll pass mmmmkay?

We'll beat the price you're paying. We don't match hardware pricing because while there are many quality hosts out there, others are using generic white box hardware with desktop-grade components. The cost-basis for rack space and power differs greatly depending on facilities and locations.

You're welcome to pass on the offer :-). Again, this offer is focused on bandwidth rather than hardware. We're not aggressively pushing hardware, as it's not our main goal here.

SmokeyTheBear 12-01-2007 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultbandwidth (Post 13453953)
you're getting 100Mbps or more of bandwidth without compensating your host in any way?


:thumbsup:thumbsup yup.

well i did kill someone for him , but i didnt like the guy either so i'm not sure if that counts as compensation

adultbandwidth 12-01-2007 12:45 AM

Heh, I think it counts, at least a little. Nice work though! He's lucky to have you as a customer.

SmokeyTheBear 12-01-2007 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultbandwidth (Post 13453998)
Heh, I think it counts, at least a little. Nice work though! He's lucky to have you as a customer.

better to have me as a friend than an enemy sort of thing, i see what you're saying.. that def could play into it a bit ,

but thats beside the point. i didnt see a "unless you killed someone for your current host" clause in your deal.. so back to the original question :winkwink: how much are you going to pay me to use your bandwidth .. :Oh crap:pimp:1orglaugh

WarChild 12-01-2007 12:50 AM

Yeah thanks but no thanks.

adultbandwidth 12-01-2007 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 13454005)
better to have me as a friend than an enemy sort of thing, i see what you're saying.. that def could play into it a bit ,

but thats beside the point. i didnt see a "unless you killed someone for your current host" clause in your deal.. so back to the original question :winkwink: how much are you going to pay me to use your bandwidth .. :Oh crap:pimp:1orglaugh

Hmm, we'll have to add an "unless you killed someone for your current host" clause. I'm not sure why we didn't think of that in the first place.

Send us the offer in writing from your current host and I'll take it to management to see what we can do.

adultbandwidth 12-01-2007 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt_WildCash (Post 13453036)
The publicly quoted prices most companies advertise is about double what real customers pay. So the "publicly quoted" price doesn't sound so hot.

Understood. If you have an offer in writing, or an invoice, we can match based on that. Doesn't have to be publicly quoted.

SmokeyTheBear 12-01-2007 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultbandwidth (Post 13454013)
Send us the offer in writing from your current host and I'll take it to management to see what we can do.

he can't really write very well anymore. he had a little "accident" and broke all his fingers, he got them stuck under someones ball peen hammer about 10 or 20 times. :Oh crap

i'll have him send a video.:winkwink:

[ScreaM] 12-01-2007 02:56 AM

Good luck! :)

rowan 12-01-2007 06:29 AM

This bit doesn't make any sense to me...

"We will match bandwidth-only pricing quoted by competitors -- for example, if a competitor is providing a 100Mbps unmetered server for $X, we will not provide 100Mbps of bandwidth via cross-connect for that price."

The other host is actually providing more value by including the server in the $X fee, so it should be easier for you to match since you're not offering that. What am I missing?

Wiredoctor 12-01-2007 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 13454822)
This bit doesn't make any sense to me...

"We will match bandwidth-only pricing quoted by competitors -- for example, if a competitor is providing a 100Mbps unmetered server for $X, we will not provide 100Mbps of bandwidth via cross-connect for that price."

The other host is actually providing more value by including the server in the $X fee, so it should be easier for you to match since you're not offering that. What am I missing?


The guy is simply an over committed BW reseller. If you check him out he has very low end cheap providers, and I would guess he has large commits he needs to dump off some excess BW quick...... He came to the wrong place and dfidnt think about what he posted and to whom before he posted. Just another nobody troll imho:2 cents::1orglaugh

adultbandwidth 12-01-2007 09:05 AM

Wiredoctor,

There is nothing "oversubscribed" about our network. We have over 80Gbps of capacity to the internet with less than half of that in use. We have plenty of burst room to sustain changing traffic patterns, ddos attacks, etc..

We are using all committed bandwidth, and we are exceeding our commitments. We're a Better Business Bureau member and have been in this business since 1995 -- longer than most of our competitors. In general, we connect to more networks than most of our competitors, primarily via 10GE connectivity.

This promotion was thought out over the course of a few weeks, and approved by management. We are simply looking to bring in additional customers by providing superior pricing and quality of service. No crime in that, right?

I appreciate your input, but I urge you to do some research and/or try our services before forming your opinions.

adultbandwidth 12-01-2007 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 13454822)
This bit doesn't make any sense to me...

"We will match bandwidth-only pricing quoted by competitors -- for example, if a competitor is providing a 100Mbps unmetered server for $X, we will not provide 100Mbps of bandwidth via cross-connect for that price."

The other host is actually providing more value by including the server in the $X fee, so it should be easier for you to match since you're not offering that. What am I missing?

A host might sell a Celeron with 512MB of RAM as a 100Mbps unmetered server for $600. They are hoping that you will not use all of this bandwidth -- it's difficult (though possible) to use that much bandwidth using such a low-end server. With a cross-connect, it's much more likely that you'll use all allotted bandwidth since you can effectively connect up as many servers as you need to.

minusonebit 12-01-2007 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13452791)
I bet you can't beat my price... :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultbandwidth (Post 13453933)
I bet we can. Just ask by submitting a sales ticket. :thumbsup

Well, in order to beat my price, you are going to be paying ME to use your service... still want me to submit a ticket? :upsidedow

Ross 12-01-2007 10:54 AM

Why would anyone move hosts because you will match the price they are paying? Honestly, you didn't really think this one through did you...

Even beating it by like $50 a month is not worth moving. Only reason I would move my 120mbit servers is if you could:

1. Beat the price by a long way
2. I was pissed at the service I receive from my host
3. You gave me an awesome reason why I should move

As none of these are likely to happen, I will kindly say thanks but no thanks.

webair 12-01-2007 11:22 AM

Harsh thread...

Snake Doctor 12-01-2007 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross (Post 13455336)
Why would anyone move hosts because you will match the price they are paying? Honestly, you didn't really think this one through did you...

Even beating it by like $50 a month is not worth moving. Only reason I would move my 120mbit servers is if you could:

1. Beat the price by a long way
2. I was pissed at the service I receive from my host
3. You gave me an awesome reason why I should move

As none of these are likely to happen, I will kindly say thanks but no thanks.

This is the point I was making earlier.

Deals for "bandwidth only" belong on webhosting reseller forums, not webmaster forums.

We're webmasters, we own sites, we need servers to go with our bandwidth, and we need 24/7 competent tech support to handle our ever changing software and hardware needs.

I'm sure there are some people here who have their own techs and colocate their equipment, but why would they move for some stupid promo like this to a company they've never heard of?

adultbandwidth 12-01-2007 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 13455483)
This is the point I was making earlier.

Deals for "bandwidth only" belong on webhosting reseller forums, not webmaster forums.

We're webmasters, we own sites, we need servers to go with our bandwidth, and we need 24/7 competent tech support to handle our ever changing software and hardware needs.

I'm sure there are some people here who have their own techs and colocate their equipment, but why would they move for some stupid promo like this to a company they've never heard of?

Thank you for the input. Of all of the replies here, at least your post has included constructive criticism -- your post gives me some idea of the type of promotion you're looking for, which helps. I will talk to my management about re-formulating another promotion that may work better for the GFY audience.

In terms of being "heard of," we may not be well-known to the GFY community (hence our reason for running promos specifically for GFY), but you're welcome to Google us and search for us on forums like WebHostingTalk for more information.

For the record, we do provide 24/7 support and server management, however this promotion targets larger adult webmasters interested primarily in bandwidth.

Our reason for advertising in this particular forum is because we are a paid GFY sponsor, with weekly pinned threads and the banner. GFY site operators have dictated that this forum is where our posts should go.

Now, if another type of promotion works better for you, I'd be glad to hear further thoughts on this. What are some packages you'd like to see us offer? If you're looking for included hardware and server management, in order for my management to take you seriously, I need serious suggestions.

minusonebit 12-01-2007 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 13455483)
I'm sure there are some people here who have their own techs and colocate their equipment, but why would they move for some stupid promo like this to a company they've never heard of?

Leasing equipment from a host is stupid, unless you are just starting out and don't want to lay out the cash. Anyone who is serious buys their own fucking servers. Its much, much cheaper. Most data centers will sell you 4Us or more of rack space with a MB for the same price that they'll sell you ONE server for. You can get four servers for the price of one that way.

adultbandwidth 12-01-2007 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13455587)
Leasing equipment from a host is stupid, unless you are just starting out and don't want to lay out the cash. Anyone who is serious buys their own fucking servers. Its much, much cheaper. Most data centers will sell you 4Us or more of rack space with a MB for the same price that they'll sell you ONE server for. You can get four servers for the price of one that way.

Exactly. Some customers find value in leasing equipment, but our management had assumed that larger adult webmasters would have already made the investment in equipment and would be colocating in neutral facilities such as the ones that we are in... which is why we structured this as a bandwidth promotion so that you could obtain rack space through us or through the facility directly and simply buy bandwidth from us via cross-connect.

Chio 12-01-2007 12:52 PM

What is your bandwidth? Looks like Hurricane for the most part :(

Penny24Seven 12-01-2007 01:05 PM

it is not about money for me although I think I have a sweet deal, webair has helped me so much and I can't put a price on that. Well yeah I could but you know,


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