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$5 submissions 11-20-2007 03:02 PM

20 WORST investments
 
20 worst investments by venture capital funds. I used to work for a VC firm in the late 90s and boy, did we invest in some doozies. How many can you spot/recognize from this list? http://www.insidecrm.com/features/20...tments-111907/
Kozmo.com: Kozmo.com's small-goods delivery service, while a recipient of around $250 million in investment, and popular with students and young professionals, ultimately met its end and liquidated in 2001. Its business model was criticized as unprofitable because it didn't charge for deliveries. Kozmo.com's demise is profiled in the documentary film e-Dreams.
I remember Kozmo.com, a friend of mine was the roommate of the guy who founded the company. My buddy kept insisting that it was HIS idea. Sure enough, when Kozmo went on life support, my friend began to insist that he just HELPED and it wasn't his idea. Just proves the old saying once again:

"Success has many fathers. Failure is an orphan."

Anyway, enjoy the trip back to the late 90's early 2000s.

ACMoviePass -Dave Dunit- 11-20-2007 03:05 PM

lmaoooo ampd mobile

eroswebmaster 11-20-2007 03:07 PM

I made money off of the pets.com blow up. I ended up clearing out some stores who had the pets.com puppet for like pennies...turned around and sold them on eBay for like $15 a pop...LOL

Snake Doctor 11-20-2007 03:08 PM

Just goes to show that fundamentals always win in the end.

$5 submissions 11-20-2007 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster (Post 13398324)
I made money off of the pets.com blow up. I ended up clearing out some stores who had the pets.com puppet for like pennies...turned around and sold them on eBay for like $15 a pop...LOL

Hehehehe sweet!:thumbsup

$5 submissions 11-20-2007 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 13398327)
Just goes to show that fundamentals always win in the end.

Dude, you're so right on the money. I remember reading Business2.0, forbes, and other articles re "HOW TO VALUATE THE NEW ECONOMY". What bullshit. Either a company makes money or it doesn't. Those articles were writing shit like "New age ways to redefine and revalue the concept of profit." Yeah.... evalue doesn't pay the rent.

DaddyHalbucks 11-20-2007 03:10 PM

S E X Y L A D I E S .com?

DamageX 11-20-2007 03:15 PM

No such thing as a bad investment. Only varying degrees of expensive lessons.

DamageX 11-20-2007 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 13398340)
Dude, you're so right on the money. I remember reading Business2.0, forbes, and other articles re "HOW TO VALUATE THE NEW ECONOMY". What bullshit. Either a company makes money or it doesn't. Those articles were writing shit like "New age ways to redefine and revalue the concept of profit." Yeah.... evalue doesn't pay the rent.

It pays the erent. :1orglaugh

$5 submissions 11-20-2007 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 13398364)
No such thing as a bad investment. Only varying degrees of expensive lessons.

Good attitude. I like that!:thumbsup It's not whether you win or lose, it's whether you learn or not. I'm with ya 100% on that.:thumbsup

Violetta 11-20-2007 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 13398364)
No such thing as a bad investment. Only varying degrees of expensive lessons.

:1orglaugh

Doctor Dre 11-20-2007 03:42 PM

Enron should definitly be #1 thought...

Shagbunny 11-20-2007 03:44 PM

or in Canada, opening up any donut shop other than Tim Hortons

DamageX 11-20-2007 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 13398462)
Enron should definitly be #1 thought...

You need to learn the difference between bad INVESTMENT and bad MANAGEMENT.

Doctor Dre 11-20-2007 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 13398484)
You need to learn the difference between bad INVESTMENT and bad MANAGEMENT.

Lots of people invested in the way the accounting was done as far as energy investements were going. It was supposed to change the way business was done.

The ideas behind Enron was probably as bad as the management. Hot hair.

Doctor Dre 11-20-2007 04:00 PM

They are including management problems too... How a business is managed is as good as the business plan behind the business.

Pixelon.com: Although Pixelon's money-burn of $16 million isn't remarkable in comparison to the other all-stars on this list, the way it was burnt certainly is. Pixelon's founder, "Michael Fenne" was more con man than entrepreneur, spending most of the company's investment on a Las Vegas launch party peppered with stars like Tony Bennett, Kiss and The Who. Eventually, it came out that Mr. Fenne was actually David Kim Stanley, a man on the run from the law and living in his car, who previously pleaded guilty to swindling $1.5 million from friends and neighbors.

Snake Doctor 11-20-2007 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 13398340)
Dude, you're so right on the money. I remember reading Business2.0, forbes, and other articles re "HOW TO VALUATE THE NEW ECONOMY". What bullshit. Either a company makes money or it doesn't. Those articles were writing shit like "New age ways to redefine and revalue the concept of profit." Yeah.... evalue doesn't pay the rent.

Yeah that whole "new economy" thing was ridiculous. All of a sudden profits don't matter because the company is internet based....or people just assumed that eventually our economy would be dominated by internet companies so they better get in now before it got too expensive.

These are the same people that two years ago thought housing prices would rise 25% a year forever so they better buy them up now or else they'd never be able to afford one.

Fundamentals always win in the end.

Snake Doctor 11-20-2007 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 13398462)
Enron should definitly be #1 thought...

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 13398484)
You need to learn the difference between bad INVESTMENT and bad MANAGEMENT.

There's also a difference between bad management and crooked management. But that's another discussion altogether.

If Enron was trading at a multiple anywhere near where the rest of the S&P was trading (I think it was around 30 times earnings) then any sane investor should have gotten out. :2 cents:

Snake Doctor 11-20-2007 04:28 PM

speaking of fundamentals....S&P 500 closed at 1439 today, this would be a great buying opportunity for anyone who has money in a cash position.

This is definitely a good time to jump into the market.

DamageX 11-20-2007 04:34 PM

This one's priceless:

Quote:

Xoma: While many pharmaceutical companies enjoy soaring profits, Xoma isn't one of them. This 26-year old company has not earned a profit since its inception in 1981. In fact, it has run through more than $700 million. Its stock has gone from highs of $32 per share to $3.04. Of course, this company's future is much more promising than many of the other companies profiled in this article. There's still a chance that Xoma will see success, even this far down the road. Perhaps you'll see Xoma on a future list of VC turnaround stories.
Man, you'd think that after 25 years of being a failure someone would learn a lesson and give the fuck up already...

L-Pink 11-20-2007 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 13398721)
This one's priceless:



Man, you'd think that after 25 years of being a failure someone would learn a lesson and give the fuck up already...

Tomorrow GFY will have nine posters if this advise is followed.

teg0 11-20-2007 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 13398484)
You need to learn the difference between bad INVESTMENT and bad MANAGEMENT.

http://www.funnyforumpics.com/forums...ead-End_of.gif

the Shemp 11-20-2007 05:34 PM

that tanning salon in Iran didnt go over too well either...

$5 submissions 11-20-2007 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 13398678)
speaking of fundamentals....S&P 500 closed at 1439 today, this would be a great buying opportunity for anyone who has money in a cash position.

This is definitely a good time to jump into the market.

Thanks, bro :thumbsup

minusonebit 11-20-2007 06:29 PM

The US Dollar is the worst investment going right now.

$5 submissions 11-20-2007 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13399244)
The US Dollar is the worst investment going right now.

I run an outsourcing/offshoring company. Boy, do I know :(:(:helpme

clickclickclick 11-20-2007 07:18 PM

best investment is self knowledge

Snake Doctor 11-20-2007 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13399244)
The US Dollar is the worst investment going right now.

A currency isn't really an investment though.

I'm not saying the dollar is doing well or anything like that....but currency is another subject altogether.

GrouchyAdmin 11-20-2007 10:55 PM

21: EpicCash

Basic_man 11-20-2007 10:58 PM

I did receive checks from AllAdvantage back in the time!! Some good old memories! :)

lazycash 11-21-2007 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Basic_man (Post 13400177)
I did receive checks from AllAdvantage back in the time!! Some good old memories! :)

Ah the memories, I had over 80k paid to surf referrals and over 45k referrals with All Advantage, I still have my AA debit card. I remember thinking I was the shit when I could sit and down and surf the web and make $75/hr because of all my referrals. When the stock market crashed in March 2000 it marked the end of most of the paid to surf companies as the IPO was no longer a viable option and all the venture capital funding was yanked. I remember talking with so many execs and it was obvious they were burning through funding and losing a ton, just trying to gain enough signups and exposure to get an IPO and strike it rich.

Even though it was a bummer when they all died along with my earnings, I credit much of how I learned to market online with my experience with those companies, its where my nick lazycash came from.

pornask 11-21-2007 12:09 AM

it's sad bolt.com had to go out of business. It was a great website I used to frequent a lot.

$5 submissions 11-21-2007 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 13400413)
Ah the memories, I had over 80k paid to surf referrals and over 45k referrals with All Advantage, I still have my AA debit card. I remember thinking I was the shit when I could sit and down and surf the web and make $75/hr because of all my referrals. When the stock market crashed in March 2000 it marked the end of most of the paid to surf companies as the IPO was no longer a viable option and all the venture capital funding was yanked. I remember talking with so many execs and it was obvious they were burning through funding and losing a ton, just trying to gain enough signups and exposure to get an IPO and strike it rich.

Even though it was a bummer when they all died along with my earnings, I credit much of how I learned to market online with my experience with those companies, its where my nick lazycash came from.

The guys behind it came back....... look up AGLOCO. Not as fat as Alladvantage though.

xxxjay 11-21-2007 12:31 AM

I love your posts man. You actually learn something. They are great. :)

sandman! 11-21-2007 01:35 AM

i remember when amped mobile was all over the tv with ads selling phones to getto people with no credit

LOL

Drake 11-21-2007 02:32 AM

$5 submissions, please never leave GFY. You post some of the coolest articles and share some of the most amazing ideas on here. Keep it up, because "we" do read your threads.

teomaxxx 11-21-2007 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 13398678)
speaking of fundamentals....S&P 500 closed at 1439 today, this would be a great buying opportunity for anyone who has money in a cash position.

This is definitely a good time to jump into the market.

Maybe there could be short term bounce (or christmas rally), but in the long term this is not definately good time to jump into the market, except companies, who do well in recession times too.

"The only two exceptions of a housing recession not leading to economy-wide ones were those during the Korean War and the Vietnam war when a massive fiscal stimulus rescued the economy. What we spent ? or waste ? on Iraq is not sufficient to get that fiscal stimulus; we would need another equivalent of $200 billion fiscal stimulus to do the job."
From:
http://www.rgemonitor.com/blog/roubini/223214/

pocketkangaroo 11-21-2007 02:44 AM

Kozmo was actually a fucking awesome service. You could order a latte and some gum and they'd deliver it for you for free. I didn't live in Chicago at that time, but had friends who did. They whored out that service so much that the delivery guys knew their names.

Speaking of dot com busts, does anyone remember Flooz? It was supposed to be "internet money". Dumbest fucking idea I've ever heard of.

minusonebit 11-21-2007 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Basic_man (Post 13400177)
I did receive checks from AllAdvantage back in the time!! Some good old memories! :)

AA was the shit.

minusonebit 11-21-2007 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by teomaxxx (Post 13400761)
Maybe there could be short term bounce (or christmas rally), but in the long term this is not definately good time to jump into the market, except companies, who do well in recession times too.

"The only two exceptions of a housing recession not leading to economy-wide ones were those during the Korean War and the Vietnam war when a massive fiscal stimulus rescued the economy. What we spent ? or waste ? on Iraq is not sufficient to get that fiscal stimulus; we would need another equivalent of $200 billion fiscal stimulus to do the job."
From:
http://www.rgemonitor.com/blog/roubini/223214/

We can always bomb Iran and make up for it.


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