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dropped9 10-23-2007 06:54 PM

If the USA went to war with Iran, who would win?
 
Iran?

USA?

or would it be the start of ww3?

StickyGreen 10-23-2007 06:55 PM

USA would fuck Iran up, but yes, it would probably start more shit...

pornask 10-23-2007 07:00 PM

We'll probably see more Americans like the OP - headless.

tony286 10-23-2007 07:01 PM

I think it would be long and very painful. Fuck iraq is still going on for what over 5 yrs. Also count on the draft happening.

dropped9 10-23-2007 07:02 PM

there is no way in hell the draft would be brought back

aico 10-23-2007 07:02 PM

Iran would wipe us off the map.

pornguy 10-23-2007 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13278358)
I think it would be long and very painful. Fuck iraq is still going on for what over 5 yrs. Also count on the draft happening.

Bush is one his way out. We pray. so he stands to lose a lot of money so it may not last as long as you think. If the US really felt threatened, they would turn the place to glass.

crockett 10-23-2007 07:03 PM

We would bomb the fuck out of them for about 2 weeks stright then embargo them for the next 10 years.

KingK7 10-23-2007 07:03 PM

Israel...

IllTestYourGirls 10-23-2007 07:05 PM

we would beat the Iran army but never beat the people.

Just like if china came to the USA they might take down our army but never the people

TexasDreams 10-23-2007 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Headless (Post 13278338)
Iran?

USA?

Halliburton!

IllTestYourGirls 10-23-2007 07:07 PM

and who does that punish the most? Not the government of Iran but the poorest of the people living there. What sense does that make?

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 13278370)
We would bomb the fuck out of them for about 2 weeks stright then embargo them for the next 10 years.


Barefootsies 10-23-2007 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Headless (Post 13278338)
If the USA went to war with Iran, who would win?

This chap would..








and no. It would NOT be WWIII. It would be the USA vs Middle East III.

:2 cents:

Viper2K1 10-23-2007 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexasDreams (Post 13278378)
Halliburton!

bingo :thumbsup

minusonebit 10-23-2007 07:09 PM

There are no winners in war. Only losers and dead bodies.

Tempest 10-23-2007 07:09 PM

Trick question... You first have to define what a "win" is...

IllTestYourGirls 10-23-2007 07:10 PM

The only one with the BALLS to stop these wars is Ron Paul.

pornask 10-23-2007 07:11 PM

I think the fundamental question in the title is self explanatory. USA has proved throughout the history that they are NOT capable of winning any war. They have just embarrassed themselves each time as not capable of accomplishing a jack shit and had to withdraw with their asses squeezed tightly. Fucking losers…

WarChild 10-23-2007 07:11 PM

If the US wanted to simply pacify the country, and did it the right way putting the population down, it would be quick and easy.

But the US is driven, at least in part, by Liberals. Liberals don't know how pacify people, so you end up with failed nation building instead.

IllTestYourGirls 10-23-2007 07:12 PM

Quoted for truth.... and the neo cons are libs all the way. :thumbsup

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 13278398)
If the US wanted to simply pacify the country, and did it the right way putting the population down, it would be quick and easy.

But the US is driven, at least in part, by Liberals. Liberals don't know how pacify people, so you end up with failed nation building instead.


dropped9 10-23-2007 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornask (Post 13278397)
I think the fundamental question in the title is self explanatory. USA has proved throughout the history that they are NOT capable of winning any war. They have just embarrassed themselves each time as not capable of accomplishing a jack shit and had to withdraw with their asses squeezed tightly. Fucking losers?

Sound's like you are describing France....

Fizzgig 10-23-2007 07:14 PM

China would win, if anyone gained anything,. Most likely it would be bad for everyone.

Corleone 10-23-2007 07:17 PM

weapon company shareholders

Profits of Doom 10-23-2007 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 13278398)
If the US wanted to simply pacify the country, and did it the right way putting the population down, it would be quick and easy.

But the US is driven, at least in part, by Liberals. Liberals don't know how pacify people, so you end up with failed nation building instead.

You hit the nail right on the fucking head. People mistaken the war with the aftermath. We won the actual Iraqi war quite easily, but we fucked up by hanging around there afterwards trying to run their country for them. Now it's a quagmire we can't ever hope to win...

Spunky 10-23-2007 07:25 PM

A couple A bombs will smarten them up

qxm 10-23-2007 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 13278387)
This chap would..








and no. It would NOT be WWIII. It would be the USA vs Middle East III.

:2 cents:

Awesome Mate!, I LOVE THAT MOVIE..........funny JD .....:thumbsup

I believe that the very same thing that has happened in Irak would repeat itself with Iran.....USA bombing the shit out of Iran but THEN after everything seems to be in order........several groups of people disguised as civilians would fight US troops through bombings and shit like that......

The problem fighting these people is that they are willing to blow themselves up just to kill a few americans........on the other hand American soldiers value their lives very much.......

So yeah....itd be American VS Muslim land III.........the return of the Yeti

WarChild 10-23-2007 07:34 PM

Say what you want about the Nazis, but they knew how to pacify a population.

Or even better yet, the Romans. Rome never had these problems because you either were with them or dead.

spacedog 10-23-2007 07:34 PM

USA should just mind its own fucking business.

Who the fuck do they think they are telling other countries what they can & can not do? Since when is the fucking USA the world police.

crockett 10-23-2007 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 13278398)
If the US wanted to simply pacify the country, and did it the right way putting the population down, it would be quick and easy.

But the US is driven, at least in part, by Liberals. Liberals don't know how pacify people, so you end up with failed nation building instead.

umm sorry but it was your Bush buddy, whom tried to do the failed nation building. lol You righties always try to blame anything bad on the the lefties..

Never fails..

pocketkangaroo 10-23-2007 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornask (Post 13278397)
I think the fundamental question in the title is self explanatory. USA has proved throughout the history that they are NOT capable of winning any war. They have just embarrassed themselves each time as not capable of accomplishing a jack shit and had to withdraw with their asses squeezed tightly. Fucking losers?

Have you ever read a history book before? I always thought the education system in Canada was good.

rvincent 10-23-2007 07:42 PM

It would be the same success that the current war in Iraq is. (err, war against terrorism I meant..., sorry)

minusonebit 10-23-2007 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 13278493)
USA should just mind its own fucking business.

Who the fuck do they think they are telling other countries what they can & can not do? Since when is the fucking USA the world police.

Hey, now THERE is an idea. :thumbsup

Phil 10-23-2007 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Headless (Post 13278338)
Iran?

USA?

or would it be the start of ww3?

North Korea.

sacX 10-23-2007 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 13278492)
Say what you want about the Nazis, but they knew how to pacify a population.

Or even better yet, the Romans. Rome never had these problems because you either were with them or dead.

Rome never managed to conquer Persia though.

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WarChild 10-23-2007 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 13278512)
umm sorry but it was your Bush buddy, whom tried to do the failed nation building. lol You righties always try to blame anything bad on the the lefties..

Never fails..

I'm not a rightie or a leftie, I'm not even American. I'll try to break it down for you, slowly, so you can keep up.

What you have in a Republic, which is what the USA is, is a small majority of the people (around 51%) telling the other people what to do. In other words, there's a big split. It's not like Democracy works in a way that everyone gets what they want, happy, happy.

So even if Neo cons are running things, there's a huge chunk (read most of) the population that are not of that same mind set and presumably would never stand to see the US army carpet bombing schools, Mosks and whatever else. Putting people to death if they don't get back in line. That's what's needed to actually pacify a population. Occupation forces will never be seen as liberators, only opressors.

If the population were say 90% neo conservative, or to use an example from the past National Socialists, then the ruling party could rage war in any fashion they saw fit without fear of problems in the population at home. As this is not the case and never will be, best just to stay out of trying to occupy countries all together.

High Plains Drifter 10-23-2007 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornask (Post 13278397)
I think the fundamental question in the title is self explanatory. USA has proved throughout the history that they are NOT capable of winning any war. They have just embarrassed themselves each time as not capable of accomplishing a jack shit and had to withdraw with their asses squeezed tightly. Fucking losers?

Revolution - win
War of 1812 - tie
Mexican-American - win
Civil War - win
Spanish-American - win
WWI - win
WWII - win
Korean - tie
Vietnam - loss
Iraq I - no contest
Iraq II - losing

WarChild 10-23-2007 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sacX (Post 13278541)
Rome never managed to conquer Persia though.

What I meant was, when Rome did conquer a population, they knew how to pacify it afterwards.

Kevin Marx 10-23-2007 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 13278555)
I'm not a rightie or a leftie, I'm not even American. I'll try to break it down for you, slowly, so you can keep up.

What you have in a Republic, which is what the USA is, is a small majority of the people (around 51%) telling the other people what to do. In other words, there's a big split. It's not like Democracy works in a way that everyone gets what they want, happy, happy.

So even if Neo cons are running things, there's a huge chunk (read most of) the population that are not of that same mind set and presumably would never stand to see the US army carpet bombing schools, Mosks and whatever else. Putting people to death if they don't get back in line. That's what's needed to actually pacify a population. Occupation forces will never be seen as liberators, only opressors.

If the population were say 90% neo conservative, or to use an example from the past National Socialists, then the ruling party could rage war in any fashion they saw fit without fear of problems in the population at home. As this is not the case and never will be, best just to stay out of trying to occupy countries all together.

Just one small correction to your post... we don't have a 51% small majority.. it's more like a 25% small majority (conservatives) and a 25% small minority (liberals) and a 50% moderate base.... it's the moderates in the middle that could control the country but don't give a fuck most of the time... so we all let the nutjobs on the left and right do it because no one ever provides a better option.... well that and most of them were brought up to think the same things as their religious parents and haven't figured out how to think for themselves yet. If the middle ever figures things out, it may be an interesting place to live.

Kevin Marx 10-23-2007 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by High Plains Drifter (Post 13278557)
Revolution - win
War of 1812 - tie
Mexican-American - win
Civil War - win
Spanish-American - win
WWI - win
WWII - win
Korean - tie
Vietnam - loss
Iraq I - no contest
Iraq II - losing

Correction... Iraq II win... follow up to win inadequate.


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