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Snake Doctor 10-08-2007 01:09 PM

The New England Patriots are the best football team I've ever seen
 
I hate to admit this, I'm a dolphins fan, but this year's New England Patriots are the best football team I've ever seen.
Better than Aikman's Cowboys, better than Montana's and Young's 49ers.

I don't think anyone in the league can beat them, it's like everyone else is fighting for 2nd place.

dynastoned 10-08-2007 01:12 PM

why would you say that? they haven't played one team thats worth a fuck this season. except maybe san diego and even they haven't been too hot this year until this week.

Mutt 10-08-2007 01:16 PM

sorry no they aren't Lenny they are the best team and most dominant team in the hard salary cap era of the NFL which is a huge accomplishment. But before the salary cap you had teams able to keep all their talent together and hence true dynasties.

Adult Insider Dave 10-08-2007 01:18 PM

Ya man they are pretty amazing. It would have been funny if they started to tank after they got busted for the video shit, but they still kickin ass

RP Fade 10-08-2007 01:19 PM

They are good, too early to call them the best ever. Let's see how they do against the Cowboys and some other solid teams down the stretch.

Snake Doctor 10-08-2007 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 13206925)
sorry no they aren't Lenny they are the best team and most dominant team in the hard salary cap era of the NFL which is a huge accomplishment. But before the salary cap you had teams able to keep all their talent together and hence true dynasties.

The fact that they're this dominant IN the era of the hard salary cap makes it that much more of an accomplishment.

They're having as good of a run, or better, than the teams I mentioned earlier, plus teams like the 70's steelers, and doing it in an era where they have to retool the roster every year.

They've won 3 of the past 6 superbowls and this year's team is the best one they've ever fielded.

Mutt 10-08-2007 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2 (Post 13207093)
The fact that they're this dominant IN the era of the hard salary cap makes it that much more of an accomplishment.

They're having as good of a run, or better, than the teams I mentioned earlier, plus teams like the 70's steelers, and doing it in an era where they have to retool the roster every year.

They've won 3 of the past 6 superbowls and this year's team is the best one they've ever fielded.

yes i agree - the accomplishment is huge and their dynasty in this era is more impressive that previous dynasties BUT you are saying they are the greatest TEAM of all time - i would say that their accomplishments make them the best ORGANIZATION because they achieved it in an era where a team can't be held together and you have to re-tool on the fly.

But just look at the Steelers' dynasty rosters and I'm sure you'll see how impressive it is and how many have gone into the Hall of Fame. Who is going into the Hall of Fame from the Patriots? Tom Brady is the only sure thing.

dissipate 10-08-2007 03:00 PM

You can't fuck with the Pats, bitches. :frenchman

http://www.derok.net/derok/images/sp...20patriots.JPG

Ninja_Pete 10-08-2007 03:05 PM

Go Mah-Fukin' Patriots! I agree, this years team is so good its kinda scary.

SCtyger 10-08-2007 03:21 PM

Pats have a soft schedule.. only 3 games will be tough. cowboys, steelers, colts.

so at the worst they will be 13-3

StickyGreen 10-08-2007 03:26 PM

The best and the gayest...

D 10-08-2007 03:28 PM

The present team excepted perhaps, their past accomplishments are marred by the fact that they cheated, I think.

Snake Doctor 10-08-2007 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by D (Post 13207539)
The present team excepted perhaps, their past accomplishments are marred by the fact that they cheated, I think.

I don't think that's as big of a deal as ppl are making it out to be.

Or in other words, everybody is/was doing it.

Notice how no other team or coach really had anything to say about it? Only Mangini, and his feud with Belichick has been going on since the day he left for the Jets.

Nobody else in the NFL wants any piece of it....because you don't throw stones if you live in a glass house.
:2 cents:

RawAlex 10-08-2007 03:56 PM

They have proven conclusively that if you apply enough technology and enough sneaky dirty ways to get things done, you can be number 1.

Snake Doctor 10-08-2007 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 13207411)
yes i agree - the accomplishment is huge and their dynasty in this era is more impressive that previous dynasties BUT you are saying they are the greatest TEAM of all time - i would say that their accomplishments make them the best ORGANIZATION because they achieved it in an era where a team can't be held together and you have to re-tool on the fly.

But just look at the Steelers' dynasty rosters and I'm sure you'll see how impressive it is and how many have gone into the Hall of Fame. Who is going into the Hall of Fame from the Patriots? Tom Brady is the only sure thing.

Ok how about I say it this way.
The Patriots are a better team than any other in the NFL right now, and they're better than the rest of the league by a larger margin than any football team I've ever seen.

Mutt 10-08-2007 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2 (Post 13207649)
Ok how about I say it this way.
The Patriots are a better team than any other in the NFL right now, and they're better than the rest of the league by a larger margin than any football team I've ever seen.

yeah that's what i was going to say - the gap between them and any other team in the NFL is huge - BUT there's still a lot of season to go and a few big games and no team is invincible.

NFL is kind of lame this year because of this - too many poor and mediocre teams and not enough elite. It's the Pats and Colts and then a big drop off. maybe the Cowboys are for real - dunno yet.

dig420 10-08-2007 04:05 PM

85 Bears would CRUSH them.

Snake Doctor 10-08-2007 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 13207682)
85 Bears would CRUSH them.

1 year wonder, not in the same league as these Pats.

We'll see how the season shakes out, but this Pats team has the best chance of going undefeated of any team I've seen. (although that's still not likely)

Az A Bay Bay 10-08-2007 04:14 PM

Go Patriots!!!

Big_D 10-08-2007 04:21 PM

HELL MOTHAFUCKIN YEAH PATRIOTS!!!!!!!!!

I gotta say, even tho I am overseas it is quite a pleasure watching the home team clean house.

Brady, Moss? Who can touch that. They are all on fucking fire.

Young 10-08-2007 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 13206925)
they are the best team and most dominant team in the hard salary cap era of the NFL.

which speaks VOLUMES about their organization.

They are the best team of the 21st century. That's for sure.

<--------From Boston

Snake Doctor 10-08-2007 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Young (Post 13207789)
which speaks VOLUMES about their organization.

They are the best team of the 21st century. That's for sure.

<--------From Boston

Yeah it's kind of like "Moneyball"

It's what the Oakland Athletics or Florida Marlins would be if baseball had a hard cap like football does.

Casa Nova 10-08-2007 04:37 PM

The Patriots made some really good off season acquisitions that have definitely put them way ahead of there competition. I put my money on them as soon as they picked up moss, and I would still leave it there given the chance not to.

dig420 10-08-2007 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2 (Post 13207705)
1 year wonder, not in the same league as these Pats.

We'll see how the season shakes out, but this Pats team has the best chance of going undefeated of any team I've seen. (although that's still not likely)

That's Mike Ditka's fault, the only coach EVER in the NFL who would rather see his team losing than give up the spotlight. That being admitted, the 85 Bears would stomp on ANY version of the Pats.

dig420 10-08-2007 05:23 PM

and may I remind you the quote is: :this year's New England Patriots are the best football team I've ever seen.:

85 Bears
89 and 94 49'ers
78 Steelers
92 Cowboys

Pats have one of the best sustained runs ever, great front office decisions, but I would put money on any of the teams above to handily defeat the best Pats team.

Snake Doctor 10-08-2007 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 13207994)
and may I remind you the quote is: :this year's New England Patriots are the best football team I've ever seen.:

85 Bears
89 and 94 49'ers
78 Steelers
92 Cowboys

Pats have one of the best sustained runs ever, great front office decisions, but I would put money on any of the teams above to handily defeat the best Pats team.

Well there's really no way to know....it's like arguing over whether Mike Tyson in his prime could beat Muhammed Ali in his prime, we're never gonna know but it makes for nice heated discussions over lots of beer :winkwink:

Mutt 10-08-2007 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2 (Post 13208645)
Well there's really no way to know....it's like arguing over whether Mike Tyson in his prime could beat Muhammed Ali in his prime, we're never gonna know but it makes for nice heated discussions over lots of beer :winkwink:

depends on if you consider the post 3 years on the sidelines cuz of evading the Vietnam draft era of Ali as his prime. Frazier beat him so the young ferocious Tyson could have beaten him too. I loved Muhammad Ali but I think he's been a bit overrated - tons of fighters gave him a battle and some beat him - Michael Jordan is his prime was tons better than his closest rival and I don't think Ali really was.

gecko 10-09-2007 12:03 AM

No doubt they're the team to beat this year.. but dunno if they're the best ever.

Snake Doctor 10-16-2007 04:26 PM

So after watching the Pats decimate the 5-0 Cowboys this past weekend, anyone still want to argue this point with me?

The Pats are un-fucking-believable, IMO the best team ever assembled.

VeriSexy 10-16-2007 04:36 PM

When they beat the colts, then I will agree

deadbabes 10-16-2007 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2 (Post 13245436)
So after watching the Pats decimate the 5-0 Cowboys this past weekend, anyone still want to argue this point with me?

The Pats are un-fucking-believable, IMO the best team ever assembled.

No arguments here. The Patriots are the fucking best!:thumbsup

Young 10-16-2007 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 13207530)
The best and the gayest...

How are those Oakland Raiders treating ya?

Young 10-16-2007 04:42 PM

Let us not forget about my 98' Broncos.

Admittedly I was more of an Elway fan then a Broncos fan.

Snake Doctor 11-01-2007 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by VeriSexy (Post 13245504)
When they beat the colts, then I will agree

Tune in on Sunday.

I fucking hate it but the Pats are absolutely unstoppable, nobody can match up with them.

WebairGerard 11-01-2007 01:32 PM

Though this may end up being true it's still too early to say that. Still only half way through the season. And they would have to win the super bowl too.

the 85 Bears were a pretty impressive team as far as single season greatness

dig420 11-01-2007 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 13208983)
depends on if you consider the post 3 years on the sidelines cuz of evading the Vietnam draft era of Ali as his prime. Frazier beat him so the young ferocious Tyson could have beaten him too. I loved Muhammad Ali but I think he's been a bit overrated - tons of fighters gave him a battle and some beat him - Michael Jordan is his prime was tons better than his closest rival and I don't think Ali really was.

Styles make fights, and no fighter is bulletproof. Ali was coming off a long layoff when he lost the decision to Frazier, he was ready for him in the rematch and beat him easily. After the beating Joe took from both him and Foreman Ali thought he was washed up in their third fight, was unprepared and it was another war.

If Quick Tillis was frustrating for Mike, Ali would be murder for him. Also, Mike couldn't take head games. I'd give at LEAST 7-1 odds on prime Ali v. prime Tyson, on paper it's the worst possible matchup for Iron Mike.

KILL_FRENZY 11-01-2007 01:59 PM

I can say I like em' too

charlie g 11-01-2007 02:11 PM

I think the colts may beat the Pats this WE.

Snake Doctor 11-18-2007 09:50 PM

Is there still anyone who thinks I'm wrong about this?

Mutt 11-18-2007 09:52 PM

we'll never know - you can't put them on the field against the great dynasties of yesteryear.

they are the most dominant team compared to their competition that's for sure.


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