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Mutt 08-19-2007 05:33 AM

How come the Japanese porn industry get such classy hot girls to do hardcore?
 
seriously, how come American porn gets teen runaways, potheads, methheads and the Japanese seem to have an endless supply of fresh beautiful perfectly turned out girls that look like they just stepped out of an expensive private school?

VoteForPedro 08-19-2007 05:48 AM

GFY Rule #112 - When speaking of anything sexual in nature, you must supply at least two(2) sample pictures for the surfers.

v4 media 08-19-2007 05:53 AM

I think they get paid huge amounts, I remember reading an article once
and it mentioned $50-60k a shoot.

rvincent 08-19-2007 05:56 AM

US/Western teens can look good too in a business suit/classy clothes.
But it seems photographers can only shoot them naked or in cheap lingerie or in schoolgirl outfit.

CurrentlySober 08-19-2007 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by VoteForPedro (Post 12954226)
GFY Rule #112 - When speaking of anything sexual in nature, you must supply at least two(2) sample pictures for the surfers.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Grapesoda 08-19-2007 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 12954188)
seriously, how come American porn gets teen runaways, potheads, methheads and the Japanese seem to have an endless supply of fresh beautiful perfectly turned out girls that look like they just stepped out of an expensive private school?

I think the key words here mutt are 'look like' it's the same crazy girls. I've shot a few of them.

azzam 08-19-2007 06:15 AM

The Japanese don't treat adult models like sluts and scum. They can go on to do basically any job they want, while in Western countries they would be forever haunted by their porn-past.

Grapesoda 08-19-2007 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v4 media (Post 12954232)
I think they get paid huge amounts, I remember reading an article once
and it mentioned $50-60k a shoot.

these crack heads would take that kind of money and actually they think they bare being cheated because they aren't being paid that much as it is.

Mutt 08-19-2007 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rvincent (Post 12954237)
US/Western teens can look good too in a business suit/classy clothes.
But it seems photographers can only shoot them naked or in cheap lingerie or in schoolgirl outfit.


some truth to that - and the only one who has realized that and made bank on it is FTV Girls. Some of those beautiful girls on there are outright nutcases with bruises and bags under their eyes but put them in some nice clothes and shoot them soft and they look good.

Grapesoda 08-19-2007 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azzam (Post 12954269)
The Japanese don't treat adult models like sluts and scum. They can go on to do basically any job they want, while in Western countries they would be forever haunted by their porn-past.

you would think somewhat differently if you worked with the models on a day to day basis like I have for the last 7 years.

99% of the models that do porn would be living under a bridge if they didn't get paid to get fucked up the ass, suck cock etc.

and so now you think that after porn they are gonna be fortune 500 CEO's? time to buy a vowel. are you a bro?

Grapesoda 08-19-2007 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 12954275)
some truth to that - and the only one who has realized that and made bank on it is FTV Girls. Some of those beautiful girls on there are outright nutcases with bruises and bags under their eyes but put them in some nice clothes and shoot them soft and they look good.

the porn shooters have no imagination Mutt. look at some of the images posted here by the big content shooters. totally horrible pics in every way.

as long as the dick is clearly visible it's a great shot, hot!

Bake 08-19-2007 06:29 AM

The new niche well shot content ;-)

bronco67 08-19-2007 07:03 AM

Most of the ones I've seen look fugly. There's a few nice ones here and there, but American porn girls are way hotter...and I don't think I'm being biased.

Plus, the jap porn just sucks. Mostly because the girls are boring fucks and so are the guys, and they have teeny little dicks. I want to see the girl get pounded by 10 inches. Not by some skinny little jap dude with a 4 inch weenie.

Grapesoda 08-19-2007 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 12954349)
Most of the ones I've seen look fugly. There's a few nice ones here and there, but American porn girls are way hotter...and I don't think I'm being biased.

Plus, the jap porn just sucks. Mostly because the girls are boring fucks and so are the guys, and they have teeny little dicks. I want to see the girl get pounded by 10 inches. Not by some skinny little jap dude with a 4 inch weenie.


so you admit it then. you watch porn to see DICKS. finally and honest mother fucker here at GFY. $0.02

teg0 08-19-2007 07:07 AM

because their culture isn't so up tight about things and doesn't have religion holding their society back.

Grapesoda 08-19-2007 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bake (Post 12954300)
The new niche well shot content ;-)

yes it should be interesting to see how it goes. the clients have low balled so long that most of the good shooters have gone, and now the good shooters that remain are being put under exclusive contracts by the smarter clients.

Violetta 08-19-2007 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v4 media (Post 12954232)
I think they get paid huge amounts, I remember reading an article once
and it mentioned $50-60k a shoot.

wtf??? that is crazy!

AINOKEA 08-19-2007 07:09 AM

God I love Asian Porn!

ServerGenius 08-19-2007 07:36 AM

Japanese are very sexual liberated....I guess since their normal culture is
very humble, shy and polite the sex stuff is their big exhaust to escape
everyday life.

ServerGenius 08-19-2007 07:38 AM

To some extend you see the same mentality in Eastern European countries
and also Russia and Former Russian states......for so long they have been
living their lives under full control....it seems like now they feel like they have
to catch up......it's like their living in the 60's-70's

Mutt 08-19-2007 07:39 AM

i should have posted some pics - i found these without looking that hard, all do hardcore. they have a huge softcore industry too and those girls are another notch up on these girls.

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Mutt 08-19-2007 07:41 AM

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ServerGenius 08-19-2007 07:46 AM

Now here's a post that deserves to get quoted :winkwink:

RawAlex 08-19-2007 07:56 AM

Okay, well, let's see. Japan has no evil catholic / christian morals when it comes to sex. Sex isn't a bad thing that your family will disown you over.

Japan has huge numbers of sex industry stores and shops in every city and region, from adult book and movie stores to strip clubs, fetish clubs, fantasy clubs (aka Fashion health clubs) blowjob clubs (pink salons), and Turkish Baths (soaplands). There is no true shyness in Japan about the existance of such places, and some girls who work in offices during the day work at one of these places at night.

You might also want to look up enjo kosai, assisted dating, where older men take younger girls out shopping for stupid expensive things like Gucchi purses or whatever, and then take them to a love hotel and fuck them. The man are often in their fourties and fifties, and the girls often in their (not legal in the US) teens. Again, without the stigma of sex being bad, there isn't really any huge moral issues at play. Some, but not guilty about sex, just about the arrangements.

Finally, understand that Japan only recently passed a law barring sex between adults and underage girls... IF YOU AREN'T A JAPANESE CITIZEN. They protect themselves and basically outlaw sex tourism.

There are tons and tons of very hot looking girls in Japan, and because sex and the sex industry isn't something to be completely ashamed about, they are often just a little more willing.

Oh yeah, money. The girls are exceptionally well paid, mostly because the industry has solidly good distribution and sales channels, often protected by the Yakuza in each region which gives them a pretty solid buisness with ongoing financial returns. If the money comes in the top, you can afford to pay top dollar to the talent.

gecko 08-19-2007 08:04 AM

Maria Ozawa's S-1 contract was $300,000 US a year or about $25,000 US for 1 movie a month

http://www.bratcash.com/gfy/javgirl_2.jpg

this girl ^

Mutt 08-19-2007 08:11 AM

she's amazing - does she have her own solo site? all i find for these Japanese girls are their blogs connected to whatever studio they are signed to. her father is French Canadian, says on Wikipedia she reads and writes English perfectly.

Mutt 08-19-2007 08:14 AM

anybody know this one's name? look at that rack on that skinny little thing.

http://www.bratcash.com/gfy/javgirl_3.jpg

MaDalton 08-19-2007 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12954460)
Okay, well, let's see. Japan has no evil catholic / christian morals when it comes to sex. Sex isn't a bad thing that your family will disown you over.

Japan has huge numbers of sex industry stores and shops in every city and region, from adult book and movie stores to strip clubs, fetish clubs, fantasy clubs (aka Fashion health clubs) blowjob clubs (pink salons), and Turkish Baths (soaplands). There is no true shyness in Japan about the existance of such places, and some girls who work in offices during the day work at one of these places at night.

You might also want to look up enjo kosai, assisted dating, where older men take younger girls out shopping for stupid expensive things like Gucchi purses or whatever, and then take them to a love hotel and fuck them. The man are often in their fourties and fifties, and the girls often in their (not legal in the US) teens. Again, without the stigma of sex being bad, there isn't really any huge moral issues at play. Some, but not guilty about sex, just about the arrangements.

Finally, understand that Japan only recently passed a law barring sex between adults and underage girls... IF YOU AREN'T A JAPANESE CITIZEN. They protect themselves and basically outlaw sex tourism.

There are tons and tons of very hot looking girls in Japan, and because sex and the sex industry isn't something to be completely ashamed about, they are often just a little more willing.

Oh yeah, money. The girls are exceptionally well paid, mostly because the industry has solidly good distribution and sales channels, often protected by the Yakuza in each region which gives them a pretty solid buisness with ongoing financial returns. If the money comes in the top, you can afford to pay top dollar to the talent.


quoted for truth - excellent answer :thumbsup

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FredIsMe 08-19-2007 08:26 AM

OMG. Japanese women are the hottest!

potter 08-19-2007 08:38 AM

i need me one of those!

pornguy 08-19-2007 08:49 AM

IM not into asian girls, and I would hit every one of those at least 4 times.


given the chance that is.
:)

Redrob 08-19-2007 09:39 AM

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sinclair 08-19-2007 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 12954358)
yes it should be interesting to see how it goes. the clients have low balled so long that most of the good shooters have gone, and now the good shooters that remain are being put under exclusive contracts by the smarter clients.

Interesting point. Curious as to your thoughts, do you think the quality of content is down because shooters are being low balled? Or the clients are low balling because there are so many shooters who will shoot for cheap?

DaddyHalbucks 08-19-2007 10:02 AM

Is there much of an online market in Japan? How do they bill customers?

Or do they just sell DVDs/ videos at retail over there?

How does it work?

Redrob 08-19-2007 10:07 AM

There market is a mirror of ours.

DVD retail in storefronts and online.

Websites and affiliate programs.

Bittorent and tube sites.

tony286 08-19-2007 10:14 AM

some very hot girls.

F-U-Jimmy 08-19-2007 10:20 AM

http://xxxgigs.com/images/annimay.jpg

This one is cute but looks a little like a cartoon, look at the eyes LOL

Fap 08-19-2007 11:13 AM

DAMnnn im not into asian girls and i would still sleep with these girls..

Grapesoda 08-19-2007 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sinclair (Post 12954756)
Interesting point. Curious as to your thoughts, do you think the quality of content is down because shooters are being low balled? Or the clients are low balling because there are so many shooters who will shoot for cheap?


clients low ball be cause they can. since sex is involved peeps will work for almost nothing. a 100-300 a day, no pro will shoot for that. when I shot sex I made 1500-1800 a day.

so now clients expect sex for almost nothing, then there are the euro shooter selling sex for low prices due to model/production cost, in LA a sex shoot cost over 1500 to produce while the euro shoots prolly cost 500. this is with out location rentals. and remember the homegrown euros shoot much cheaper than the producers flying in from out of town.

unlike LA where peeps fly in to shoot and the prices have gone up for everybody. clients tell me the euros are paying models 300 for sex. a german model told me she got 280 for a day with anal and everything. the euro shooters deny that on the boards though.

sure there are guys shooting cheaper in LA however those are usually guys A. making not much profit or B. waiting to catch girls when they need drugs.

the main thing I'm asked by prospective clients now is: do the models speak english. interesting isn't it? then they wanna pay euro prices for the scenes. so the only choice their left with is to buy cheap content for under experienced shooters if they want that price.

the clients I shoot for know that my cost have gone up well over 200% in the last 3 years. so is the quality of content going down? good content cost more to produce and the clients are paying more for good content. the shooters that I know who are reasonably good are being offered contracts.

what is that gonna do to other sites? and now many sites are putting their own production houses together, buy a big house, pay a photog 35K a years and shoot 5 days a week for a ring of sites. good shooters aren't going to work for 35K a year.

one of my clients figure that in a few years most content will be shot by a few large companies and the small houses will be gone. like I say will be very interesting to see how it goes.

one other interesting thing: there are 1000% more models in LA than 3 -4 years ago and the 'value' of models has risen over 200% well over %200. if everybody in town had an apple tree in the back yard would the price of apples go up? I don't think so... this is gonna be interesting to watch also.

the DVD companies are down 25% in profit from 2005 to 2006, the numbers aren't in for the 2006 to 2207 yet. in 2006 the big companies even stopped shooting for a few months due to backlog of product they couldn't sell. now all the vid companies are stripping their lines for web content. traffic is much harder to get, the surfer is getting educated.

interesting times coming up for sure. I think exclusive content with quality will be the way to go. who really knows though?


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