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421Fill 08-01-2007 03:19 PM

If you found out your neighbor is a registered sex offender...
 
If you found out your neighbor is a registered sex offender, what would you do?

Libertine 08-01-2007 03:20 PM

I wouldn't let him babysit my children.

Xplicit 08-01-2007 03:23 PM

I'd politely let him know that I know.

Tell him I won't be rude to him, but myself and my family will be keeping an eye out, so if he gets one of his urges he best go elsewhere.

Babaganoosh 08-01-2007 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 421Fill (Post 12856273)
If you found out your neighbor is a registered sex offender, what would you do?

Depends on the offender. I might actually fight to be this offender's neighbor: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14499056/

I don't have kids and live alone so I don't have much to fear from a sex offender. I'd keep an eye on him (or her) but wouldn't sweat it much. That doesn't mean I would invite him over for a beer but I wouldn't run him out of the neighborhood. It's better they live next to me where they can do no harm than across from a school or something like that.

If I had kids it would be an entirely different story.

421Fill 08-01-2007 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Xplicit (Post 12856289)
I'd politely let him know that I know.

Tell him I won't be rude to him, but myself and my family will be keeping an eye out, so if he gets one of his urges he best go elsewhere.

yes... this is what we're supposed to do...

421Fill 08-01-2007 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 12856300)
Depends on the offender. I might actually fight to be this offender's neighbor: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14499056/

I don't have kids and live alone so I don't have much to fear from a sex offender. I'd keep an eye on him (or her) but wouldn't sweat it much. That doesn't mean I would invite him over for a beer but I wouldn't run him out of the neighborhood. It's better they live next to me where they can do no harm than across from a school or something like that.

If I had kids it would be an entirely different story.

actually, I need to add, that there are 2 schools within 800 ft. of him and a school bus stop directly accross the street...

GreyWolf 08-01-2007 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 421Fill (Post 12856273)
If you found out your neighbor is a registered sex offender, what would you do?

Nothing until I found out how he/she became a "sex offender". The label seems to be applied very liberally in the US and may have little to do with actual sex offenses (rape, assault, children etc).

Libertine 08-01-2007 03:33 PM

For some reason people seem to think that all sex offenders are child predators.

This guy may as well have slapped a female co-worker on the ass.

Babaganoosh 08-01-2007 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 421Fill (Post 12856308)
actually, I need to add, that there are 2 schools within 800 ft. of him and a school bus stop directly accross the street...

Depends on what he did. If he's really and truly a child molester then perhaps it's time to start nudging him out of the neighborhood however you see fit.

421Fill 08-01-2007 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 12856331)
For some reason people seem to think that all sex offenders are child predators.

This guy may as well have slapped a female co-worker on the ass.

this is what he was convicted of:

f288(c) LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS ACTS WITH CHILD 14 OR 15 YEARS OLD

the registry does make a distinction between crimes against children and crimes against adults.

WhiplashDug 08-01-2007 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Xplicit (Post 12856289)
I'd politely let him know that I know.

Tell him I won't be rude to him, but myself and my family will be keeping an eye out, so if he gets one of his urges he best go elsewhere.



TELL HIM T O GO ELSEWHERE? yeah - its all good as long as its someone elses kid.

I would tell him, "politely" that I don't like him, and that I will be watchign him closely and if I even see him look at a kid ANYONES kid with the slightest hint of anything inappropriate... that I will be paying him a visit - and it won't be social.

Libertine 08-01-2007 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 421Fill (Post 12856346)
this is what he was convicted of:

f288(c) LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS ACTS WITH CHILD 14 OR 15 YEARS OLD

the registry does make a distinction between crimes against children and crimes against adults.

Hmm. So, basically, he probably had an underage girlfriend?

421Fill 08-01-2007 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 12856367)
Hmm. So, basically, he probably had an underage girlfriend?

perhaps. but it'd had have to been along time ago: DOB: 02-11-1954

Libertine 08-01-2007 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 421Fill (Post 12856377)
perhaps. but it'd had have to been along time ago: DOB: 02-11-1954

Hmm. That does make it seem somewhat dubious.

Then again, I'm 25 and have 16 year old girlfriend... who am I to talk.

_Richard_ 08-01-2007 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 421Fill (Post 12856346)
this is what he was convicted of:

f288(c) LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS ACTS WITH CHILD 14 OR 15 YEARS OLD

the registry does make a distinction between crimes against children and crimes against adults.

yea, i would be asking what age he was at when he got labelled

bausch 08-01-2007 03:53 PM

I wouldn't care or even think about it; I don't have kids.

I live in California, if you live in any big city in California, there will always be some sex offenders around you, sometimes even quite a few, you just can't escape it.

I'm too busy with my own life to care about other people.

Brother Bilo 08-01-2007 04:16 PM

I would politely let him know that I'm not cool with him........with my fists.

ridikuloz 08-01-2007 04:22 PM

if it's a girl, i'd sexually offend her pussy.
if it's a guy, i'd sexually offend him with a baseball bat up the wazoo.

Baal.PitBull 08-01-2007 04:40 PM

14 or 15 years old? I'd make a petition and have evryone sign it to have him evicted. those type of people should have been taken out back of the court house and shot

Baal.PitBull 08-01-2007 04:41 PM

14 or 15 years old? I'd make a petition and have evryone sign it to have him evicted. those type of people should have been taken out back of the court house and shot

SureFire 08-01-2007 05:00 PM

I know I would tell all the parents in the community that a sex offender is my neighbor. And, if I saw anything questionable going on, I would call the police.

Otherwise, treat the person like any neighbor with respect. The scary part is if the person is REALLY A SEX OFFENDER, they can't help themselves and will probably act again. :Oh crap

xxxRumor 08-01-2007 05:10 PM

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In 2004, Debra Beasley LaFave was arrested at the home of a middle school student, accused of having sex with him at her apartment, in her car, in her classroom. She was 23. He was 14.
If i had 14 years old son and he fucked his teacher i would be sooooo proud !

421Fill 08-01-2007 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Bilo (Post 12856568)
I would politely let him know that I'm not cool with him........with my fists.

one thing I am sure of is that I will not be resorting to violence... how would I be able to protect my kids from jail?


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Originally Posted by SureFire (Post 12856775)
I know I would tell all the parents in the community that a sex offender is my neighbor. And, if I saw anything questionable going on, I would call the police.

Otherwise, treat the person like any neighbor with respect. The scary part is if the person is REALLY A SEX OFFENDER, they can't help themselves and will probably act again. :Oh crap

this is likely the route I will be taking. one thing that worries me, though, is what constitutes harrassment... it's possible that me telling others could make him feel harrassed... with my newfound motive, I think I'd prolly end up looking like the bad guy trying to stir shit up... I dunno... these types of things go thru my mind...


maybe someone has actually dealt with this before?

will76 08-01-2007 06:44 PM

gas + fire..... i dont know I am sure I could think of a few things.

SureFire 08-01-2007 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 421Fill (Post 12857243)
one thing I am sure of is that I will not be resorting to violence... how would I be able to protect my kids from jail?




this is likely the route I will be taking. one thing that worries me, though, is what constitutes harrassment... it's possible that me telling others could make him feel harrassed... with my newfound motive, I think I'd prolly end up looking like the bad guy trying to stir shit up... I dunno... these types of things go thru my mind...


maybe someone has actually dealt with this before?

Why worry about the legal stuff if stuff is happening before your eyes? If you see sfuff that is not right, report it.

A 'real' sex offender should be lock up for life or shot. Studies, research and whatever, show that legal system cannot reform them, and just lets them go back to be caught again just because they served their time.

Really sad :Oh crap

Matt 26z 08-01-2007 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GreyWolf (Post 12856321)
Nothing until I found out how he/she became a "sex offender". The label seems to be applied very liberally in the US and may have little to do with actual sex offenses (rape, assault, children etc).

True, some guys are on the list for adult prostitution related activity.

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Originally Posted by 421Fill (Post 12856346)
this is what he was convicted of:

f288(c) LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS ACTS WITH CHILD 14 OR 15 YEARS OLD

the registry does make a distinction between crimes against children and crimes against adults.

What you need to find out now is how old he was when this happened. I'd also get the details of the alligations from the police. If this guy was 18 and he slept with a 15yo, let's face it, he's not going to be nabbing little girls off the street as some people may fear of a "sexual preditor."

bausch 08-01-2007 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GreyWolf (Post 12856321)
Nothing until I found out how he/she became a "sex offender". The label seems to be applied very liberally in the US and may have little to do with actual sex offenses (rape, assault, children etc).

That's for sure. I think you can get on that list for 2257 violations now. Seriously.

Also for urinating in public.

421Fill 08-01-2007 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SureFire (Post 12857369)
Why worry about the legal stuff if stuff is happening before your eyes? If you see sfuff that is not right, report it.

A 'real' sex offender should be lock up for life or shot. Studies, research and whatever, show that legal system cannot reform them, and just lets them go back to be caught again just because they served their time.

Really sad :Oh crap

I agree, but I haven't seen anything happening... I would and will report if I do see anything.

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 12857413)
True, some guys are on the list for adult prostitution related activity.



What you need to find out now is how old he was when this happened. I'd also get the details of the alligations from the police. If this guy was 18 and he slept with a 15yo, let's face it, he's not going to be nabbing little girls off the street as some people may fear of a "sexual preditor."

exactly. one thing that I've concluded from this is that the lack of details with the registry really isn't fair to the people that are on it for relatively minor events, etc... it does state the charge they were conviccted of, but no date... so, yeah it is possible it was a situation where he was 18, she was 15 and the parents got mad... just too many unanswered questions,in my opinion.

the picture of him is current... but maybe they require a new picture every so often...

and on the flip side the lack of info can also hide guys that are actually worse than you think... goes both ways.

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12857424)

Also for urinating in public.

true, but it actually states that as the conviction if it's the case.

zand_stein 08-01-2007 08:19 PM

I will keep it to my self.......

Brad Mitchell 08-01-2007 08:45 PM

I found out after we moved in - right next door. GRRRRRRRRRRR

Brad

DaddyHalbucks 08-01-2007 08:51 PM

Criminals are everywhere, even on GFY.

Sometimes they even learn their lesson, and change.

That said, I wouldn't hire him as a babysitter. But other than that, I wouldn't worry about it.

Babagirls 08-01-2007 08:57 PM

IPersonally, I'd move. I've been through some stuff in my life that would not let me sleep at night knowing who/what was next door to me. I'm sure its different for males, but as a female that's been in nightmare situations with guys like that, it's much different.

GreyWolf 08-01-2007 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12857424)
That's for sure. I think you can get on that list for 2257 violations now. Seriously.

Also for urinating in public.

Yep - there are some weird scenarios where folks get stuffed on the "sex offenders" lists. This may be bad when it waters down the relevance of real offenders.

A couple of years back I had a guided "tour" of middle class tree-lined suburbia - around 10-15 blocks in size. It was amazing how many crooks there were in that relatively small area :)

There were the usual sex offenders, kidnappers, armed robbers, murderers etc, but an amazing number of drugs-related convictions and these folks were still in business from, mainly their homes (or places which were homes). Asked why they had not be raided? Reply - No hurry, there are bigger fish to get intell on and can deal with the small fry when there is a day free.

Don't know if this was an "average" community, but seemed more than peaceful. If it is average - sure as hell there will be "sex offenders" and plenty others as next door neighbors :winkwink:

Libertine 08-01-2007 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SureFire (Post 12857369)
A 'real' sex offender should be lock up for life or shot. Studies, research and whatever, show that legal system cannot reform them, and just lets them go back to be caught again just because they served their time.

That is simply not true. In fact, it's complete nonsense.

What studies show is that sexual offenders, and child molesters in particular, actually are way less likely than other criminals to repeat their crimes.

Here are some numbers from an Economist article:
http://www.economist.com/world/brita..._id=E1_VQTRPDT

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Men convicted of sex offences involving children are not, in fact, all that likely to commit further crimes. Of those released in 2002, 17% were in trouble again within two years. That may sound appalling, but compared with other ex-cons, sex offenders were paragons of virtue. The re-conviction rate for all criminals was 60% (see chart). Most incorrigible were men who stole from vehicles, 85% of whom had been re-convicted within the same period.

It is also likely that most of the child sex offenders who got into trouble after their release were collared for a different (and less appalling) crime. A study by America's Department of Justice found that, while 39% of child molesters were arrested again within three years of release, just 3% were suspected of another sex crime against a child.

Some convicted child molesters will have returned to their old ways and not been caught, of course. Others will have lapsed later, so their crimes will not show up in the statistics. But the same is true of other criminals. And the police presumably keep closer tabs on sex offenders than on, say, burglars?otherwise, what is the point of all those lists?
The question whether even that small a risk should be taken is another matter. Still, to make an informed judgment, one needs to have the facts. (another fact: most sex offenders victimize people in their own circle of friends and family)

M0nk 08-01-2007 09:30 PM

throw him stones?????

GreyWolf 08-01-2007 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 12857930)
That is simply not true. In fact, it's complete nonsense.

What studies show is that sexual offenders, and child molesters in particular, actually are way less likely than other criminals to repeat their crimes.

Here are some numbers from an Economist article:
http://www.economist.com/world/brita..._id=E1_VQTRPDT

The question whether even that small a risk should be taken is another matter. Still, to make an informed judgment, one needs to have the facts. (another fact: most sex offenders victimize people in their own circle of friends and family)

It's hard to contest these stats and accept them at face value - but, - assume they were compiled accurately and the comment on them is balanced - gotta accept them :thumbsup

Will throw in my :2 cents: anyways :) Generally child abusers were probably victims and the perpetrate further abuse as adults - it's a vicious cycle. Each is different in that some can't see anything wrong with their offenses and others know very well what they are doing. It's also a "hidden world" where, as you said, most offenses are within family units and may never be recorded as stats (but with amazing levels of damage among victims).

Sadly this shit is dramatically increasing in the US - only reason I can think of is the "vicious cycle" syndrome where eg one person may commit ten offenses - and eg seven of these ten victims then perpetrate offences on others - and the virus spreads. It is also prob fair to say that an individual with one actual conviction is not the sum total of his/her offenses - they were busy offending before they got caught with enough witness testimony to make the charges viable. But, suppose the same thing applies to car theft etc :)

bobby666 08-01-2007 10:37 PM

you can do ..........nothing

Mr Pheer 08-01-2007 10:49 PM

I once had a housekeeper, and I found out that her husband was a registered sex offender for sexual assault of a child under 16 years of age.

Her husband had never been to my house, but I fired her over it anyway. Cannot take any chances when you have children at home with people like that, or with people associated with them.

Violetta 08-01-2007 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 12856281)
I wouldn't let him babysit my children.

haha... true. Stay the fuck away from him.

421Fill 08-01-2007 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 12857803)
I found out after we moved in - right next door. GRRRRRRRRRRR

Brad

what did you do? is it where you currently live?


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