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Ok so i signed up with these guys 2 days ago because of the $100.00 payout promo which i saw while reading through the forum.. So I said " Hey why not give these guys a shot and see how it would convert" I switched my traffic from streamate (Who i have been with for over a month and has always paid me and never had any issues with my traffic) to CamGuest dot com Program lustybucksdot com[ - I seen the traffic go up and converting at about 1:700
I left the traffic overnight which is where most of the traffic comes from till about 11:00am the Next day. I logged into my Lustybucks accounts and I could not log in. I then requested my password and used what it sent me still without any luck. I then email support and here is what i get emailed back to me:

To whom it may concern,

The sales made by jaystyles have large number of fraud points. To avoid any further problems we decided to refund ALL these sales.
Account 'Jaystyles' has been suspended due to the possible fraud.

JayStyles@aol dot com wrote:
> This form was submited from:
>nats.lustybucks dot com/support2
>
> By IP: 72.199.230.227
>
> Received On: Tuesday 22nd of May 2007 01:47:03 PM
>
> Subject: Login not working
>
> Name: Jay Styles
>
> Email: Jaystyles@aol dot com
>
> Message: >
> Why has my login changed? I have been trying to login with no luck. Please advise.

*account name changed with forum name.

I just think this is bs all of a sudden my traffic is bad and mostly fraud. I think they couldn't handle the traffic. On 100 payout per signup

Be Careful Dealing with these Guys

uh oh! I never had a prob with them

There is only one J Styles

Seen this before with them, my guess is they cant handle several sales per day from 1 webmaster at $150 a sale

if its too good....

Lusty Bucks fucked me out of $250 when they first opened and called it fraud. Search on Lusty Bucks threads and you'll see it. These pricks are among some of the biggest affiliate scammers around. :321GFY :321GFY :321GFY :321GFY

Fuckin' A!

Somebody told me about this poster the other day.

Hey, jaystyles - I ain't trying to be an ass ... please contact the admin and change your nick, bro.

There is only one J motherfucking $tyle$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have heard similar complaints from other webmasters. Had a feeling they were going to have to do something fishy to be able to pay out their promo payouts.

have you tried contacting them on icq?

We have a client who sent them 100 signups and then got deleted for fraud. Beware of these guys

I don't understand why i had to change my Nick. I have had Jaystyles since i was a Little Kid Being my Hobby has been Magic. I have owned the domain jaystyles.com since 2002. Ur Nick is orgnl on GFY but it I am the ORGNL JAYSTYLES ... I get Banned for having that Nick thats shitty.

What about "Jay Stile"? :Graucho

lol... This is crazy.

There is ALWAYS 2 sides of any coin...
Well, you've started this thread on 05-24-2007. And we've sent you the reply on 05-23-2007 with the questions you never answered.

Here goes the copy of this letter ( to let you recollect what its all about ):

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Message:

I'd like to see your comments regarding the following:

1. ALL your sales are made by users who came from nowhere [ bookmarks ;) ].
2. ALL the members who submitted the form did it in very similiar way. Why?
3. ALL the members have bought the minimal ticket and NEVER rebilled. Almost impossible thing on live cams.
4. NATS granted your members TOO MUCH fraud points.
5. From 15602 uniques you've sent us only 548 are with referers.

P.S. Strange list of coincidences for 8 sales you've generated one day :winkwink:
And the list is not complete :winkwink:

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We prefer not to deal with such traffic. That's why your account was closed in less than 24 hours.

If he is so good at fraud, I am amazed how he forgot these points.

Yep, I just talked to two more people who they did this too. Seems they want to throw out the big payouts to attract affiliates, but then just cancel them without a payout when their sales don't rebill and call it fraud.

Happened to me too. I've sent 4000 signups in the past 6 months between PussyCash, MoneyTree, AWE, StreamRay, Webcams.com, and Epic Cams without a single problem. I only deal with SE cam traffic.

I know some traffic doesn't work with some programs and I've never had a problem if a program wants to switch to revshare or just not to deal with the traffic. But I know they've canceled accounts of a lot of the top cam affiliates on the web. Just seems like something isn't right with that.

As I always said, don't trust a man who bumps his thread 4 pages long and doesn't feel bad about it

theres a perp in tha house!

Has anyone been paid by these guys yet?

[QUOTE=LustyBucks;12504589]
I'd like to see your comments regarding the following:

1. ALL your sales are made by users who came from nowhere [ bookmarks ;) ].
2. ALL the members who submitted the form did it in very similiar way. Why?
3. ALL the members have bought the minimal ticket and NEVER rebilled. Almost impossible thing on live cams.
4. NATS granted your members TOO MUCH fraud points.
5. From 15602 uniques you've sent us only 548 are with referers.
[QUOTE]

1. people really do bookmark sites.

2. they all filled out the same form and you wonder why its similar.

3. Almost every first time cam buyer buys the minimum to check it out. Your site could suck and they dont want to spend more.

4. I dont know about this.

5. nats / most programs never shows even close to the amount of referers.

From the looks of this thread Lusty bucks isnt looking to good.

i sent 2,400 hits and no sales :(

Im surprised these guys have lasted this long

Anyone? :warning

n e 1 alive?

You fucking scamming assholes just need to get the fuck out the affiliate biz. Fucking bastards.

Looks like these guys are bad news, it appears as if they are trying to pile up the traffic/sales numbers as fast as possible and then skip town without paying anyone.

Hmmm... The last epassporte payment from them arrived 2 days ago. So, they are ok for me.

P.S. Although they have another BIG problem - only 30-40 models are live in general on their cam site. This fact affects the ratio for sure

The site also doesn't work in Firefox. It's probably why they have so many "fraudulent" transactions. They have a real nice design and it converts well. But once someone signs up and realizes they don't have a lot of cams or they can't even run the cams in their browser, they don't spend any money. Lusty Bucks determines the signup is fraudulent because they didn't send any money. The signup wasn't though, and is simple not spending money because the site is not as good as the other cam sites.

I sent 21 signups in the first couple days of May ($3,150 with their promo). They canceled my account and told me there were a high number of fraud signups. My traffic is SE cam traffic and I've sent thousands of sales to other cam sponsors without a problem this year. Nonetheless, they told me they'd pay me for the "legit" ones.

It's June 6th and still no payment. I'll see if we get something in the next week.

wow thats fcked up man. was thinking about them although thanks for the heads up. im small although i dont like dealing with shady biz cos im trying my best for sponsors.. damn site! side note dont deal with zuzandesigns as well very scammy people lol

so who would you all use for cam?

Maybe your referrer tracking sucks ? If someone sends traffic via a script or redirects, tracking often fails, seeing this phenomenon for loads of programs.

For 8 sales, this isn't that strange, it's not like there are so many possible variations ?!

Then my cam sponsors would all have to cancel me. Loads of guys just try it because they are curious. Catching a regular user or even whale with 8 sales ? Not very realistic, you run a cam program, you should know better.

Bad luck ? Does it mean any fraudulent activity by himself ? You rely on these fraud points only ?

Yep, that's a bit strange, but as said before, if he redirects traffic or sends it via a script, it can easily happen.

http://www.pussycash.com
http://www.webcams.com
http://www.clickcash.com
http://www.adultwebmasterempire.com
http://www.mtree.com

They have all paid on time every time without a problem.

Still no pay from them....

Hahaha what a Lame name to choose. Fucking wave rider.

You'll never come close to be Styling like the real J$tyle$.

I agree that's kind of lame, there is an obvious difference in the appearance of your nicks...
jaystyles
J$tyle$

What is the GFY world coming to? So that douchebag You Forgot Poland can have 50 nicks and be banned like 35 times but you can't have a nick that is close to being similar to this guys...kinda weak in my opinion.

It's all about being a BRO :pimp