Am I the only one who wants to MURDER some of the designers around here?
 

It's getting pretty bad. 80% of the designers I give projects to TOTALLY blotch it and do just the opposite of what I ask them to do. In fact, I send most of my projects to a SECOND designer these days to fix what the first idiot fucked up.

I give them color samples, the ignore them. I tell them what pics I would prefer, they ignore them. I say SLEAZY they give me PRETTY. I want CLASSY they give me SLEAZY. So then I send it back over and over and over in an attempt to get it the way I wanted it, and they get mad and want to charge more money to fix a fuck up they did in the first place.

It's a god damn good thing most of you shitty designers are hiding in Europe or the Philippines because I will kill you in cold blood if given the chance.

NOTICE... none of you are ever even getting HALF of my money to start a project ever again. :321GFY :321GFY :321GFY :321GFY :321GFY

Those of you who have worked with me know I send detailed notes on what I want. Why do some of these dip shits just refuse to read them?

find 2-3 guys that do good work and only use them whats so hard about that ?

And it's no wonder some of you beg for work and make 100 banners for free to win a $25 contest.

Worthless tools.

I have some guys that do me good, but the downside to that is all the projects start to look the same, or they are booked and can't get right to me. So I look for new ideas, fresh designs.

maybe problem in you? ;)

:upsidedow

Designers are just odd.

Half of them almost finish the work and then disappear and never deliver so they don't get payed for what they did.

That's way is best to learn design by yourself.It's not so hard.

give your work to the second designer, first :)

I really wish most of them weren't so damned table happy

See that is why you are an idiot sigwhore,

there is tons of people who can claim to do design but very few people can. you get what you pay for, its like when you get idiots who say some designers overcharge you can go to some outsourcing company and get complete crap, does crap convert? not usually.

it amazes me how the word "designer" is tossed around so easily, tons of wannabes when very few actually know what they are doing.

dude

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anyway, you're right - designers are some kind of shit cause client is the same peace of shit very offen. all the same as men and women.

Agreed, unless you are new in this business I do not see why designers would charge you up front. Designers and programmers are the most flaky people in the industry so why anybody would give them money up front is mind boggling.

Hit up Czarina over at xlabor, she does great work.

I think her ICQ number is 276592701

Shoot your own content too right?

I can understand that people (designers) sometimes get a bit greedy and take a bigger work load than they can handle, in which case the timeframe limit suffers, but I cannot understand why anyone would use different colors than specified, different pics and make a different "feel".. When I worked actively as a designer before - my main problem was that most of my clients didn't have a clue what they want, and a good part of those wasn't even sure about what they DON'T want.. From a designers point of view, you cannot get anything better than a client who knows what he wants, and provides all texts / sample links / guidelines.. Plus I've been ripped off by quite a few of them, and that's why I stopped taking on new clients (unless they're referred by people I work with), so now I just stick with a group of webmasters I trust and use any spare time for my own projects.
Take sandmans advice & try to find a few designers who actually listen to what you say and stick with them..

golden words!

+1

who is your designer?...

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If you ever want to try somebody new, let me know. My designer has some free time and I'll gladly give him some of your work. No money up front, your reputation is enough. Don't like, don't buy.

OK... I just killed one of them.

Onto the next one.................

I am with you!!! after my job was half done I sent one of my designers a note about a bunch of issues... well he still delivered crap!!!

I am fed up, lets break out the bats and beat the SH^*&IT out of them

sheesh.. thatz why i dont take any prepay.. .. yknow keepin it real and such and such.. cost me money but nobody wanna kill me at least..

yah, who are they?

I know what you mean. Good designers are hard to come by. Actually most good professionals are hard to come by. But you notice it more with designers cause you use them more usually.

are you still paying your filipino designers $3.50 per gallery?

i can put you in touch with our designers... they're good at giving me exactly what i ask for as long as the requirements are clear enough

plus they give you drafts / mockups at specific stages of the design before they finalize anything

the pricing is really competitive too

I have luckily found a couple I tend to stick with, they do fast work and they are good and cheap.

I've got one tied up in my basement now, here is what I'm gonna do to him...

I'm going to starve some rats for a week. Then I'm going to shove a piece of PCV pipe up his ass and turn a rat loose inside so he will crawl up into his rectal cavity and chew into his insides. The rat will feast on him. When he is full and comes out, either from the pipe or from eating his way out, I will turn another loose... and then another... and another...

Muahahahahaahah!!!!!

HAHAHA! A very simple logic :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You had better hope they don't realize they are good (and nor does anyone else), because with demand comes workload (bye bye fast) and then, if they have any sense, higher prices.

It is always possible you may have found someone who is totally unaware of his or her talents and/or utterly lacking in ambition. But it never hurts to ask yourself how likely that is.

"Cheap" is the main reason for most of the problems that people have with so-called designers. Adult webmasters typically want to pay less than 1/10th of what pro marketing/design people charge. In essence we expect professionalism and talent for less per hour than we probably tipped the waitress last time we went out for dinner. Surprize, surprize, we often get what we pay for.

you get what you pay for

Indeed. I'm going to try that next time around. :1orglaugh

Just a bit of advice, and I know 99.999% of you already know this, but...

Make sure you buy the domain they will work on, not the other way around. I know far too many people who get burnt by having the designer running the whole show and registering the domains, then all of a sudden dropping of the face of the earth with a 5+ year lock on the domain. :(

I really like Bluewire Design, Pro Adult Outsourcing, and Insane Adult Creations. All of these companies have been reliable and very talented.

King.. glad to see you are happy ! :)

exactly, and only THEN give to the first to fix it

It can be difficult to communicate ideas to designers.

That's why I design my own stuff.

That's pretty normal. If you know exactly what you want, make a sketch and fax it to them.

none of the quality designers would let a client hang out to dry with a design they weren't happy with ...they would rework it until it was what you wanted