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RAM 01-23-2007 05:10 PM

Federal Agents Raid 11 Medical Marijuana Clinics
 
LOS ANGELES, CA (CNS) -- Medical marijuana advocates plan to demonstrate outside West Hollywood City Hall in the wake of Drug Enforcement Administration raids that shut down 11 outlets around Los Angeles county.

Federal authorities do not recognize the California law, approved by voters in 1996 as Proposition 215, that allows some people to grow and smoke the normally illegal weed.

''The DEA continues to say that they are not going after patients,'' said Steph Sherer, executive director of Oakland-based Americans for Safe Access. ''But every time they raid a medical cannabis dispensary, hundreds of the most seriously ill lose their access to medicine.''

In West Hollywood, marijuana outlets were raided 7828, 7825, 7901 and 8464 Santa Monica Blvd., and at 8921 Sunset Blvd.

About 50 protesters shadowed DEA agents, who wore body armor, helmets and face masks as they carted away evidence.

Six other stores were searched and closed down, including four in the San Fernando Valley, one in Hollywood and one in Venice, said Sarah Pullen of the DEA.

About 20 people were detained, but apparently no one was arrested.

Pullen estimated that Los Angeles County has about about 200 marijuana outlets.

The Los Angeles Police Commission voted Tuesday to support a moratorium on new marijuana outlets, and police Chief William Bratton pledged to work with federal authorities to prosecute businesses in violation of the law.

The total amount of pot and cash seized was unavailable.

Ralph Partridge, who heads the DEA office in Los Angeles, said the raids showed that the storefront operations are ''nothing more than drug trafficking organizations bringing criminal activities to our neighborhoods and drugs near our children and schools.''

Some guns were seized in the raids.

West Hollywood politicians, who voted Tuesday night to impose restrictions on marijuana outlets, have sympathized with those who contend they need pot as medicine.

''The city of West Hollywood has had a long-standing commitment to the compassionate use of medical marijuana for those persons who are facing catastrophic illnesses,'' City Manager Paul Arevalo said.

Senate bill 420, which took effect in 2004, clarified Proposition 215, and taken together legalized possession and cultivation of marijuana for qualified medical patients.

? article from: http://www.knx1070.com/pages/186144.php?

We have to start working together to make sure this does not keep happening...Get the word out there to as many people as you can..

Spunky 01-23-2007 05:13 PM

Held down by the man again..

LiveDose 01-23-2007 05:30 PM

Those losers really have no other crime like murders, kidnappings, bank robberies, child molesters etc etc to go after.

It's Gman to the rescue!!!

Z 01-23-2007 05:35 PM

The pharmaceutical and cotton industries are just fucking terrified that California's positive stance on weed will catch on elsewhere. They're keeping the lobbyists well-stocked with everything they need to keep the politicians leaning on the DEA.

What a fucking country...

StickyGreen 01-23-2007 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAM (Post 11778509)
''The DEA continues to say that they are not going after patients,''

That's good to know... :smokin

Webby 01-23-2007 05:44 PM

Quote:

Ralph Partridge, who heads the DEA office in Los Angeles, said the raids showed that the storefront operations are ''nothing more than drug trafficking organizations bringing criminal activities to our neighborhoods and drugs near our children and schools.''
Ralph sure is good with his verbal spewage - he managed to get "drug trafficking", "criminal activities" and threats against kids into part of one sentence - BUT missed out the purported massive street value of the confiscated material. Shame on ya :1orglaugh

What a load of crap....

Phoenix 01-23-2007 05:53 PM

Fascist Regime...there should be a song like that

StickyGreen 01-23-2007 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z (Post 11778646)
The pharmaceutical and cotton industries are just fucking terrified that California's positive stance on weed will catch on elsewhere. They're keeping the lobbyists well-stocked with everything they need to keep the politicians leaning on the DEA.

What a fucking country...

Interesting point about the cotton industry. I never thought about it like that with hemp...

Pleasurepays 01-23-2007 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAM (Post 11778509)
We have to start working together to make sure this does not keep happening...Get the word out there to as many people as you can..


you people crack me up. its illegal under federal law. end of story.


if you want to sell illegal drugs, you need to change federal law. thats a very simple concept for anyone that is not a habitual pot smoker to understand.

(now... counting down to retarded arguments about the harmlessness of the drug, medical benefits etc as if that has any bearing on federal law)

BusterBunny 01-23-2007 06:03 PM

easy mistake
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunky (Post 11778522)
Held down by the man again..

it wasn't the man this time:Oh crap

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-...notsmoking.jpg

aico 01-23-2007 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 11778788)
Interesting point about the cotton industry. I never thought about it like that with hemp...

Not sure about the cotton part of his statement, you can grow hemp. While all marijuana is hemp, not all hemp is marijuana.

Daruma 01-23-2007 06:11 PM

glad to see that they have their priorities in line

- Iraq - fuckup
- online gaming - trying to kill it
- dangerous weed clinics
- open the boarders to let more illegals in
- kill the middle class
- make sure wall street has at least $10 million dollar Christmas bonuses
- federal debt that cannot be corrected for at least 100 years

StickyGreen 01-23-2007 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daruma (Post 11778878)
glad to see that they have their priorities in line

- open the boarders to let more illegals in

Who's doing that?

Doctor Dre 01-23-2007 06:30 PM

Theses guys definitly don't have a life...

cpt. insaino 01-23-2007 06:35 PM

America sucks

Martina Warren 01-23-2007 06:38 PM

Damn, that sucks now i know why the stores were closed :(

baddog 01-23-2007 06:41 PM

I heard a rumor that some of the stores were selling to (undercover cops) people that did not have cards. Combine that with it being a federal crime, and yeah, afraid that will happen.

Daruma 01-23-2007 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 11778945)
Who's doing that?

somebody opened the door - there are only a few million of them in country :disgust

After Shock Media 01-23-2007 07:17 PM

Few things missing:

1. Very few if any are using the new state issued ID cards, let alone following the state rules of how a co-op clinic must operate. To many are still relying on doctor notes which many are questionable at best. Then all to many clinics are operating with not only marijuana in excess of valid patient numbers, not operating on a co-op basis, and making large profits.

2. Any argument that the cotton and textiles industries are against hemp are flawed at best and tin foil hat material in reality in this day and age. Not only could they switch over in a heart beat, produce a cheaper product, and already have large market share and distribution in place. Textile companies are already importing it and or having their products made where it is fully legal. As an odd side note, wide scale outdoor hemp production would lead to cross pollination with outdoor and some indoor marijuana growers. Lowering the quality of the strain of plants they are attempting to grow.

3. The DEA and law enforcement is the ones against hemp production. As they have put it, it would make their jobs more difficult as the plants look near identical. The DEA and many Government agencies make to much money and employ way to many people and programs for them to even think of slaughtering this cash cow.

4. The Federal Government is going against every scientific study as well as the vast will of the people to change the drug class of marijuana to one that has medical usage. This would not make it legal, just a controlled substance under the same rules as others like morphine, vicodin, and the like.

5. The Federal Government really does not have the proper jurisdiction in such matters unless they can prove interstate commerce, wire fraud, bank fraud, or mail fraud. It really is a states right issue.

Pleasurepays 01-23-2007 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 11779221)
5. The Federal Government really does not have the proper jurisdiction in such matters unless they can prove interstate commerce, wire fraud, bank fraud, or mail fraud. It really is a states right issue.


why do you think the federal government has no authority over those prescribing illegal narcotics? i guess a state can also legalize "medical crystal meth" because it cures lethargy... and create meth stores all over the state? i am sure the FDA will approve.

its purely a federal issue on every single level... whether you agree or not.

After Shock Media 01-23-2007 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11779283)
why do you think the federal government has no authority over those prescribing illegal narcotics? i guess a state can also legalize "medical crystal meth" because it cures lethargy... and create meth stores all over the state? i am sure the FDA will approve.

its purely a federal issue on every single level... whether you agree or not.

A meth case is a state issue unless they either call in for DEA assistance or their is interstate commerce laws being broken, can also be for potential tax evasion. Please also note Amphetamines and Methamphetamine are a schedule 2 drug in the United States. Thus a doctor can and could prescribe it and a clinic or pharmacy could give it to patients without any concern of a raid if they are on the up and up. So yes the FDA would approve.

Pleasurepays 01-23-2007 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 11779319)
A meth case is a state issue unless they either call in for DEA assistance or their is interstate commerce laws being broken, can also be for potential tax evasion. Please also note Amphetamines and Methamphetamine are a schedule 2 drug in the United States. Thus a doctor can and could prescribe it and a clinic or pharmacy could give it to patients without any concern of a raid if they are on the up and up. So yes the FDA would approve.

ok... you are quite insane. now you are saying that the FDA would approve crystal meth as a drug for legal prescription to treat illness or disease.

:disgust :disgust

After Shock Media 01-23-2007 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11779283)

its purely a federal issue on every single level... whether you agree or not.


On an additional side note. I participating a great deal in the passing of 215. I was present at one raid done at a clinic in San Fransisco, surrounded by masked agents with assault riffles, knocked out of my wheelchair, and handcuffed behind my back for two hours. I also had one of the first clinics opened with full local law support in Northern California. I also had an warrant issued for my arrest by the Federal Government for Conspiracy against the United States. I faced a ten year to life imprisonment charge. I made no deals, I stood my ground, and in the end after close to a year the Federal Government had to drop their case. One of the many issues around dropping the case was jurisdiction.

After Shock Media 01-23-2007 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11779327)
ok... you are quite insane. now you are saying that the FDA would approve crystal meth as a drug for legal prescription to treat illness or disease.

:disgust :disgust

Check the damn drug schedules on any Government site. It is as clear as day. Yes according to the FDA and the DEA Meth is less dangerous than Marijuana and Meth has medicinal usages unlike marijuana.

Pleasurepays 01-23-2007 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 11779349)
Check the damn drug schedules on any Government site. It is as clear as day. Yes according to the FDA and the DEA Meth is less dangerous than Marijuana and Meth has medicinal usages unlike marijuana.

the DEA drug schedule has absolutely nothing to do with FDA approval of a drug for prescription to treat disease or illness.

After Shock Media 01-23-2007 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11779361)
the DEA drug schedule has absolutely nothing to do with FDA approval of a drug for prescription to treat disease or illness.

The FDA has plenty to do with the drug schedule. It abides by them just like pharmacies do. Hence the new rules in regards to medicines that have ephedrine. Now the drug schedule does not include a lot of doctor supervised drugs, referred to as "legend drugs".

StickyGreen 01-23-2007 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 11779221)
Few things missing:

1. Very few if any are using the new state issued ID cards, let alone following the state rules of how a co-op clinic must operate. To many are still relying on doctor notes which many are questionable at best.

Who's not using the state issued cards? Every single club I goto is very strict and by the book. I dunno, maybe they're fucking up down in the LA area, because in the Bay Area and Sacramento they don't fuck around.

I'm also pretty sure a doctor's note by itself doesn't do shit. You have to use the doctor's note to get registered in the state system and get a card.

travelingmike 01-23-2007 08:40 PM

Just more GOV Bullshit.... land of the free..... what a bunch of crap

After Shock Media 01-24-2007 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 11779568)
Who's not using the state issued cards? Every single club I goto is very strict and by the book. I dunno, maybe they're fucking up down in the LA area, because in the Bay Area and Sacramento they don't fuck around.

I'm also pretty sure a doctor's note by itself doesn't do shit. You have to use the doctor's note to get registered in the state system and get a card.

I have this information due to numerous sources. Many are objecting to using the state ID card program since it would land them in a database that could in theory be subpoenaed by the Federal Government.

When I picked up my official card shortly after it was re-instated by California. My card number was remarkably low. I know the numbers are sequential as well due to my fiance getting her care giver card. Her number was one digit higher. At the end of December I brought in someone I know who was relying on the doctors prescription only. His card number was only 37 digits higher than mine and 36 higher than my fiances. Months and months have passed since we got ours and he got his.

I would be highly interested to know what your number is. As you would know it provides zero information about you to anyone that looks it up in the public data base.

You may also understand the grey areas regarding clinics as well as how they must operate to remain even quasi legal. There is a crap load of paperwork required, just the right amount of product weighed against your total number of registered patients. With of course no price mark ups beyond the actual cost of production, labor costs is debatable and is supposed to be covered by co-oping the work load among the patients. Another major contention is that they placed a limit on the number of patients a single care giver can have. Any infractions in any of this can easily lead to a major yet unpopular bust.

They also have assorted people and organizations that are attempting to use other state laws to assist in closing clinics done. This is being done through assorted "grass roots movements" with questionable funding who are attempting to enact zoning laws to keep them away from basically everything.

Martin 01-24-2007 02:08 AM

Fight the power. Grow that shit, light that shit, smoke that shit.

baddog 01-24-2007 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11779361)
the DEA drug schedule has absolutely nothing to do with FDA approval of a drug for prescription to treat disease or illness.

ummm . . . just an observation . . . ASM seems to know what he is talking about on this particular topic. You can still bow out gracefully.



I would.

directfiesta 01-24-2007 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11778809)
you people crack me up. its illegal under federal law. end of story.


if you want to sell illegal drugs, you need to change federal law. thats a very simple concept for anyone that is not a habitual pot smoker to understand.

(now... counting down to retarded arguments about the harmlessness of the drug, medical benefits etc as if that has any bearing on federal law)

UPDATE:

Mr. KnowsItAll in the da house .....

Kimo 01-24-2007 04:45 AM

damn that sucks

DWB 01-24-2007 04:47 AM

http://paquiderme.blogger.com.br/mackey.jpg

Superterrorizer 01-24-2007 04:55 AM

Bill 420 ahahahahaha

robfantasy 01-24-2007 07:31 AM

weed clinics are advertised as much in LA as escorts in Vegas

Cyndalie 01-24-2007 07:51 AM

Boooooo!!!!!

Maybe the guys at the DEA were low on stash.

DTK 01-24-2007 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 11779041)
I heard a rumor that some of the stores were selling to (undercover cops) people that did not have cards. Combine that with it being a federal crime, and yeah, afraid that will happen.

If that's the case, then no sympathy from me. Gotta play it straight.

Besides, it's not like any dipensary is lacking in documented patients. Greed........

DTK 01-24-2007 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 11779568)
I'm also pretty sure a doctor's note by itself doesn't do shit. You have to use the doctor's note to get registered in the state system and get a card.

I've found this to be variable from club to club.

starpimps 01-24-2007 11:22 AM

drugs are bad...mmmkay


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