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Stephen 01-23-2007 01:21 PM

FBI to Address 2257 Inspections at XBIZ Hollywood Conference
 
FBI to Address 2257 Inspections at XBIZ Hollywood Conference

LOS ANGELES — The FBI has agreed to send special agent Chuck Joyner to speak on the 2257 seminar panel at the upcoming XBIZ Hollywood Conference, Feb. 7-8, at the Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel in Hollywood, Calif. The panel in question will take place Tuesday, Feb. 7, at 10:00 a.m., in the main seminar hall of the venue.

Don't miss out on this unprecedented opportunity to hear directly from DOJ!

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MattO 01-23-2007 01:23 PM

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Screaming 01-23-2007 01:24 PM

well thats a step eh...

JFK 01-23-2007 01:25 PM

WOW, Nice Coup:thumbsup :thumbsup

SxDx 01-23-2007 01:25 PM

that should be interesting

Stephen 01-23-2007 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 11777358)
WOW, Nice Coup:thumbsup :thumbsup

Thanks Julius, it really is :thumbsup

I tried to get Mary Beth Buchanan for the Vegas show, but we weren't able to pull it off.

Having the SAIC in charge of 2257 inspections coming to lay out the real dope in Hollywood, though, is such a big step in the right direction and I hope that lots of you will be able to take advantage of this great opportunity!

JFK 01-23-2007 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 11777411)
Thanks Julius, it really is :thumbsup

I tried to get Mary Beth Buchanan for the Vegas show, but we weren't able to pull it off.

Having the SAIC in charge of 2257 inspections coming to lay out the real dope in Hollywood, though, is such a big step in the right direction and I hope that lots of you will be able to take advantage of this great opportunity!

If this does'nt lead to a seminar packed to overflowing, then a lot of webmasters need to examine their business strategies. There is a question and answer period I presume?

sicone 01-23-2007 02:10 PM

will this be video'd and played later or at least streamed for those of us not there?

Anthony 01-23-2007 02:18 PM

Stephen,

Bravo Zulu my friend. This is HUGE news!

Xbiz stepping up, and beyond!

Tom_PM 01-23-2007 02:23 PM

Good stuff :)

Yes I'd also like to know if this will be recorded, as I'm sure a great many webmasters and producers will not be able to attend in person.

BoyAlley 01-23-2007 02:25 PM

Wow, a great opportunity indeed! Good job Xbiz! I really do hope it's recorded.

Brad Mitchell 01-23-2007 02:31 PM

Congrats to XBiz, that surely is a coup. Definitely get the seminar recorded (and done well) as I am certain this is a must-see event that unfortunately far too many webmasters will be unable to attend.

Brad

SykkBoy 01-23-2007 02:35 PM

Excellent job XBiz crew...this is something that's been sorely missing from a lot of these types of seminars. Before they *seemed* to be more full of attorneys trying to scare everyone into hiring them. It'll be refreshing to hear from the other side so to speak. Hopefully this will help the FBI that most of us are serious about business and really do want to work within the limits of the law.

On another note, I almost fear any "innocent" conversations he may hear over a drink or two at a webmaster party ;-)

punker barbie 01-23-2007 02:39 PM

Cant wait to hear what he has to say. should be very informative and a great oppertunity to clear up any misunderstandings of the laws and what they are specifically looking for.

thehand 01-23-2007 02:39 PM

I just heard it from the horses mouth, there will be a Q&A.

punker barbie 01-23-2007 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2 (Post 11777817)
On another note, I almost fear any "innocent" conversations he may hear over a drink or two at a webmaster party ;-)

Oh snap! LOL :1orglaugh

Webby 01-23-2007 02:53 PM

Damn... so Chuck Joyner's career is gonna be short when the DOJ find out he's playing the lecture circuit with nasty pornographers :winkwink:

What a pleasure it is to be free....

RawAlex 01-23-2007 02:55 PM

It is a nice coup, but keep it quiet. Often FBI people promise to make those types of appearances, but at the last minute their bosses get cold feet and tell them to send a huge "no comment". They are not usually very public about how they do business.

Doctor Dre 01-23-2007 03:01 PM

Someone should record this for thoses that can't make it.

K R I S T E N 01-23-2007 03:08 PM

We are very thrilled to be offering the community and industry the opportunity to hear this from "the horse's mouth..." so to speak -- make sure to come with legitimate questions as they are READY and WILLING to answer -- lets all work together and STREAMING the seminar isnt a bad idea ... we'll look into it!

avalanche 01-23-2007 03:09 PM

That's going to probably be the biggest seminar ever.

selena 01-23-2007 03:11 PM

That is much cool! Nice work Xbiz, wish I could be there to attend.

Webby 01-23-2007 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11777899)
It is a nice coup, but keep it quiet. Often FBI people promise to make those types of appearances, but at the last minute their bosses get cold feet and tell them to send a huge "no comment". They are not usually very public about how they do business.

Think we agree on that Alex :)

Can vouch for exactly that being on the table - the lecture circuit as fine, but may get contentious depending who the lecture is addressed to. Annual conventions of drugs cartels and pornographers can get.... "sensitive".

But.. chances are all with go with a bang - of some kind :pimp

OzMan 01-23-2007 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2 (Post 11777817)
...On another note, I almost fear any "innocent" conversations he may hear over a drink or two at a webmaster party ;-)

Make sure he doesn't get an invite to the bukkake party :1orglaugh

tony286 01-23-2007 03:26 PM

Why even have the lawyers on the panel it should be this guy alone. He can give facts where everything else is opinion.Great move Xbiz to get this guy:thumbsup

sicone 01-23-2007 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XBizKristen (Post 11777954)
We are very thrilled to be offering the community and industry the opportunity to hear this from "the horse's mouth..." so to speak -- make sure to come with legitimate questions as they are READY and WILLING to answer -- lets all work together and STREAMING the seminar isnt a bad idea ... we'll look into it!

The streaming of the seminar is a great idea... the poster who posted it should get a free trip to the show :thumbsup

Mr. Romance 01-23-2007 03:35 PM

Chuck must be getting somewhat excited.....He is going to a porn show. Little does he know that it is just business..But this is a step in the right direction:thumbsup Nice job XBIZ!

madawgz 01-23-2007 03:38 PM

this should be interesting

borked 01-23-2007 03:51 PM

Always be careful of what's around the corner...
It certainly will be interesting to listen to, because 2257 inspections must be a real drain on FBI resources.

Bewae of a 2257 central registration database in the works, where models have to register before going on camera...

Elli 01-23-2007 04:03 PM

That shows good faith that they're willing to explain their methods like that. I hope it turns out to be what it seems: a huge step in the right direction.

pocketkangaroo 01-23-2007 04:05 PM

Will he be arresting everyone in the room before or after the presentation?

SweetT 01-23-2007 05:08 PM

KUDOS and CONCERNS.....


Kudos to the entire xBiz crew for putting this together. There is no doubt in my mind that an open flow of communications will result in more knowledge and, as everyone knows, knowledge equals power.

Those of you that were not around in the early days will remember when this entire industry was scared to death of the credit card companies. We all wanted to "fly under their radar". This level of thinking is what AMEX used to pull out of the space altogether and why Master Card was very quickly following in their footsteps. It took a couple of very smart guys (namely Ron Cadwell and Chris Mallick) to look Visa square in the eyes and say "We want to be good customers and solid citizens...how do we do it?". From that point, we learned how to play in their sand box and make money together.

Again....this is FANTASTIC news for our entire industry.....as long as.......


Here comes my concerns....


In an open forum I am going to be very afraid that some of the "less professional" individuals from our industry will be the ones in the Q&A sessions with the loudest voices. I, for one, do not want them speaking for or on behalf of me or my company. Because it will be an open forum, I think we all owe it to each other to make sure that if we see that beginning to happen that we speak up and try to keep the panel a professional one on both sides of the equation. Let's make sure that the voices that are heard are ones with long term industry gains in mind and not short term, personal gains as the agenda.


Just my $.02



--T

eroswebmaster 01-23-2007 05:09 PM

LOL I hope he takes names.

ronaldo 01-23-2007 05:18 PM

If CuriousToyBoy doesn't do a run through in a thong I'd consider that a wasted photo op.

Seriously though, if he's upfront and honest a lot could come of something like this. Perhaps he'll even see that we're an industry willing to work WITH the DOJ and it's the illegal porn producers they need to start focusing on instead of the legitimate ones.

Webby 01-23-2007 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronaldo (Post 11778550)
Seriously though, if he's upfront and honest a lot could come of something like this. Perhaps he'll even see that we're an industry willing to work WITH the DOJ and it's the illegal porn producers they need to start focusing on instead of the legitimate ones.

Little doubts the guy will be "upfront and honest" - he has no reason to be otherwise. Rest assured, very little will come out of it - an FBI agent has little to offer other than expound on the law and enforce it. It's not a cosy chat were everyone is an open book :)

The idea of the DOJ and FBI "working" with the adult industry is even more remote - they don't exist to work with anyone - their job is to uphold the law.

But sure, government agents are not stupid (unless a few are totally dumb) - they already know a lot more about the adult industry, motivations, patterns blah than any newbie on GFY.

K R I S T E N 01-23-2007 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SweetT (Post 11778496)
KUDOS and CONCERNS.....


Kudos to the entire xBiz crew for putting this together. There is no doubt in my mind that an open flow of communications will result in more knowledge and, as everyone knows, knowledge equals power.

Those of you that were not around in the early days will remember when this entire industry was scared to death of the credit card companies. We all wanted to "fly under their radar". This level of thinking is what AMEX used to pull out of the space altogether and why Master Card was very quickly following in their footsteps. It took a couple of very smart guys (namely Ron Cadwell and Chris Mallick) to look Visa square in the eyes and say "We want to be good customers and solid citizens...how do we do it?". From that point, we learned how to play in their sand box and make money together.

Again....this is FANTASTIC news for our entire industry.....as long as.......


Here comes my concerns....


In an open forum I am going to be very afraid that some of the "less professional" individuals from our industry will be the ones in the Q&A sessions with the loudest voices. I, for one, do not want them speaking for or on behalf of me or my company. Because it will be an open forum, I think we all owe it to each other to make sure that if we see that beginning to happen that we speak up and try to keep the panel a professional one on both sides of the equation. Let's make sure that the voices that are heard are ones with long term industry gains in mind and not short term, personal gains as the agenda.


Just my $.02



--T

Perfect concern -- hence the need for a very well qualified MODERATOR

Brooklywood 01-23-2007 09:41 PM

This is going to be very, very interesting. I hope to see a standing room only crowd at this one.

MikeSmoke 01-23-2007 09:54 PM

And those of us who may not be able to make it, hope to see it made available for everyone, either as a live or archived stream...

pornguy 01-23-2007 10:00 PM

Dont be surprised if they back out.

Rochard 01-23-2007 10:15 PM

Very nice!


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