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Phoenix 01-03-2007 03:29 PM

Airport workers report a UFO..no report made
 
From the Chicago tribune

Published January 1, 2007


It sounds like a tired joke--but a group of airline employees insist they are in earnest, and they are upset that neither their bosses nor the government will take them seriously.

A flying saucerlike object hovered low over O'Hare International Airport for several minutes before bolting through thick clouds with such intense energy that it left an eerie hole in overcast skies, said some United Airlines employees who observed the phenomenon.

Was it an alien spaceship? A weather balloon lost in the airspace over the world's second-busiest airport? A top-secret military craft? Or simply a reflection from lights that played a trick on the eyes?

Officials at United professed no knowledge of the Nov. 7 event--which was reported to the airline by as many as a dozen of its own workers--when the Tribune started asking questions recently. But the Federal Aviation Administration said its air traffic control tower at O'Hare did receive a call from a United supervisor asking if controllers had spotted a mysterious elliptical-shaped craft sitting motionless over Concourse C of the United terminal.

No controllers saw the object, and a preliminary check of radar found nothing out of the ordinary, FAA spokeswoman Elizabeth Isham Cory said.

The FAA is not conducting a further investigation, Cory said. The theory is the sighting was caused by a "weather phenomenon," she said.

The UFO report has sparked some chuckles among controllers in O'Hare tower.

"To fly 7 million light years to O'Hare and then have to turn around and go home because your gate was occupied is simply unacceptable," said O'Hare controller and union official Craig Burzych.

Some of the witnesses, interviewed by the Tribune, said they are upset that neither the government nor the airline is probing the incident.

Whatever the object was, it could have interfered with O'Hare's radar and other equipment, and even created a collision risk, they said.

The Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (the term that extraterrestrial-watchers nowadays prefer over Unidentified Flying Object) was first seen by a United ramp worker who was directing back a United plane at Gate C17, according to an account the worker provided to the National UFO Reporting Center.

The sighting occurred during daylight, about 4:30 p.m., just before sunset.

All the witnesses said the object was dark gray and well defined in the overcast skies. They said the craft, estimated by different accounts to be 6 feet to 24 feet in diameter, did not display any lights.

Some said it looked like a rotating Frisbee, while others said it did not appear to be spinning. All agreed the object made no noise and it was at a fixed position in the sky, just below the 1,900-foot cloud deck, until shooting off into the clouds.

Witnesses shaken by sighting

"I tend to be scientific by nature, and I don't understand why aliens would hover over a busy airport," said a United mechanic who was in the cockpit of a Boeing 777 that he was taxiing to a maintenance hangar when he observed the metallic-looking object above Gate C17.

"But I know that what I saw and what a lot of other people saw stood out very clearly, and it definitely was not an [Earth] aircraft," the mechanic said.

One United employee appeared emotionally shaken by the sighting and "experienced some religious issues" over it, one co-worker said.

A United manager said he ran outside his office in Concourse B after hearing the report about the sighting on an internal airline radio frequency.

"I stood outside in the gate area not knowing what to think, just trying to figure out what it was," he said. "I knew no one would make a false call like that. But if somebody was bouncing a weather balloon or something else over O'Hare, we had to stop it because it was in very close proximity to our flight operations."

Some joke, others research

The databases of various UFO-watching groups are full of accounts filed by pilots about sightings of unknown aircraft and anomalies that affected navigational equipment onboard planes.

Whether any of the UFO incidents are real or merely the result of individual perceptions, some experts say the events pose a potential safety risk to pilots and their passengers.

"There have been documented cases where safety appears to have been implicated, and more and more we are coming to the point of view that we are dealing with an intelligent phenomenon," said Richard Haines, science director at the National Aviation Reporting Center on Anomalous Phenomena, a private agency.

"We must be proactive before an aircraft goes down," said Haines, a former chief of the Space Human Factors Office at NASA's Ames Research Center.

Haines is investigating the O'Hare incident. He said he has determined that no weather balloons were launched in the vicinity of O'Hare on Nov. 7.

"It's absurd that the military would be conducting aerial test flights" near the airport, Haines said.

All the witnesses to the O'Hare event, who included at least several pilots, said they are certain based on the disc's appearance and flight characteristics that it was not an airplane, helicopter, weather balloon or any other craft known to man.

United denies UFO report

They're not sure what was hanging out for several minutes in the restricted airspace, but they are upset that no one in power has taken the matter seriously.

A United spokeswoman said there is no record of the UFO report. She said United officials do not recall discussion of any such incident.

"There's nothing in the duty manager log, which is used to report unusual incidents," said United spokeswoman Megan McCarthy. "I checked around. There's no record of anything."

The pilots of the United plane being directed back from Gate C17 also were notified by United personnel of the sighting, and one of the pilots reportedly opened a windscreen in the cockpit to get a better view of the object estimated to be hovering 1,500 feet above the ground.

The object was seen to suddenly accelerate straight up through the solid overcast skies, which the FAA reported had 1,900-foot cloud ceilings at the time.

"It was like somebody punched a hole in the sky," said one United employee.

Witnesses said they had a hard time visually tracking the object as it streaked through the dense clouds.

It left behind an open hole of clear air in the cloud layer, the witnesses said, adding that the hole disappeared within a few minutes.

The United employees interviewed by the Tribune spoke on condition of anonymity.

Some said they were interviewed by United officials and instructed to write reports and draw pictures of what they observed, and that they were advised by United officials to refrain from speaking about what they saw.

Federal agency backtracks

Like United, the FAA originally told the Tribune that it had no information on the alleged UFO sighting. But the federal agency quickly reversed its position after the newspaper filed a Freedom of Information Act request.

An internal FAA review of air-traffic communications tapes, a step toward complying with the Tribune request, turned up the call by the United supervisor to an FAA manager in the airport tower, Cory said.

Cory said the weather might have factored into what the witnesses thought they saw.

"Our theory on this is that it was a weather phenomenon," she said. "That night was a perfect atmospheric condition in terms of low [cloud] ceiling and a lot of airport lights. When the lights shine up into the clouds, sometimes you can see funny things. That's our take on it."

Ramos 01-03-2007 03:31 PM

we never landed on the moon

Lazonby 01-03-2007 03:32 PM

Was it this saucer which went back through time and brought down the Twin Towers at the behest of the Jews, the NeoCon Cabale and the Illuminati?

Huggles 01-03-2007 03:35 PM

I bet they cover this shit up because religious people would fucking snap

Phoenix 01-03-2007 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazonby (Post 11648888)
Was it this saucer which went back through time and brought down the Twin Towers at the behest of the Jews, the NeoCon Cabale and the Illuminati?

i think you have lost your mind...during the salem witch trials...you were the kind screamin burn her burn her...admit it...you would be there with all the other people


or during the spanish inquistion youd be condemning people to death for heresy for stupid shit.

right right?

BAAAAAHHHHHH...hows the grass taste?

Phoenix 01-03-2007 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 11648905)
I bet they cover this shit up because religious people would fucking snap

there would be mass suicide around the world if it happened

lol

Phoenix 01-03-2007 03:37 PM

http://www.ufoartwork.com/


paintings of suspicious objects through out time

Lazonby 01-03-2007 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 11648906)
i think you have lost your mind...during the salem witch trials...you were the kind screamin burn her burn her...admit it...you would be there with all the other people


or during the spanish inquistion youd be condemning people to death for heresy for stupid shit.

right right?

BAAAAAHHHHHH...hows the grass taste?

The grass tastes however one of your conspiracy theories wants it to taste.

pornguy 01-03-2007 03:37 PM

I have my tinfoil hat and my chastity belt on just incase. No ana probing for me thank you.

Dollarmansteve 01-03-2007 03:37 PM

omg, definitely a cover-up................. ugh

Huggles 01-03-2007 03:42 PM

UFOs are likely to exist people


Billions and billions of stars out there... if 1 other race of beings evolved and had reached our level of technology 100,000 years earlier, it's pretty possible for them to discover faster than light travel.


They probably are amused by us

Phoenix 01-03-2007 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazonby (Post 11648921)
The grass tastes however one of your conspiracy theories wants it to taste.

ah the ole conspiracy theory retort

very good :)

i dont care what you think....i post info, it is up to you to read it ignore it...th ink about it.

check this link out and tell me you dont find it interesting

http://www.ufoartwork.com/

Dirty F 01-03-2007 03:46 PM

Phoenix, you are a whacko.

Dirty F 01-03-2007 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 11648948)
UFOs are likely to exist people


Billions and billions of stars out there... if 1 other race of beings evolved and had reached our level of technology 100,000 years earlier, it's pretty possible for them to discover faster than light travel.


They probably are amused by us

You are right but you also mention exactly why most likely they wont know about earth.

Billions of stars and planets....

Phoenix 01-03-2007 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 11648979)
Phoenix, you are a whacko.

missed you in amsterdam dude...would have been fun..and wbe had room for you

http://www.ufoartwork.com/


one of the paintings is from holland

borked 01-03-2007 03:51 PM

good start to 2007 then!

Quote:

UFO crashes in SA
2007-1-2 23:13
Pretoria - A UFO was sighted at Lephalale, where it was described as a strange object "on an orange cloud, singing like a million turbines" - hitting the earth with a bang at 04:33 on Saturday. That's according to Leonie Ras, the administrative manager of Lephalale (Ellisras) who witnessed the spectacle at her daughter's farm just east of the town on Saturday morning.
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The French space agency plans to publish its archive of UFO sightings and other phenomena online but keep the names of those who reported them off the site to protect them from the pestering of space fanatics.
and from the late gerald ford
Quote:

Michigan UFO Wave of 1966
"In the firm belief that the American public deserves a better explanation than that (swamp gas) thus far given by the Air Force, I strongly recommend that there be a committee investigation of the UFO phenomena. I think we owe it to the people to establish credibility regarding UFOs, and to produce the greatest possible enlightenment of the subject."- President Gerald Ford.

Phoenix 01-03-2007 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 11648979)
Phoenix, you are a whacko.

missed you in amsterdam dude...would have been fun..and wbe had room for you

http://www.ufoartwork.com/


one of the paintings is from holland

After Shock Media 01-03-2007 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 11648948)
UFOs are likely to exist people


Billions and billions of stars out there... if 1 other race of beings evolved and had reached our level of technology 100,000 years earlier, it's pretty possible for them to discover faster than light travel.


They probably are amused by us

Come on and please admit you really do not think that about technology. I will give you that the probility of life on other planets in our or other solar systems, galaxies and such more than likely do exist. Yet come on about faster than light travel or even just obtaining light speed. Some of the rules are pretty damn set and inability to travel at the speed of or greater than light is one of them. Now if you wanted a tad bit more creditability, maybe and a big maybe some advanced life form has mastered the tracking, traveling through, and usage of worm holes or folds in the universe.

Though if this was true and they knew of us, odds again would say they would overpower us and well we all would be killed or slaves. Then again maybe they would use math and linquistics and decide the most intellegent species on our planet was the one with the most complicated language and well then again humans are fucked.

Somehow though we have ended up meeting up with the advanced perverts of the universe who's only mission is to visit earth, anally probe people, and steal bovine ass's. Yet with all of their advanced technology they still have not figured out how to avoid being seen by us primate sex toys.

Phoenix 01-03-2007 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 11649006)
Come on and please admit you really do not think that about technology. I will give you that the probility of life on other planets in our or other solar systems, galaxies and such more than likely do exist. Yet come on about faster than light travel or even just obtaining light speed. Some of the rules are pretty damn set and inability to travel at the speed of or greater than light is one of them. Now if you wanted a tad bit more creditability, maybe and a big maybe some advanced life form has mastered the tracking, traveling through, and usage of worm holes or folds in the universe.

Though if this was true and they knew of us, odds again would say they would overpower us and well we all would be killed or slaves. Then again maybe they would use math and linquistics and decide the most intellegent species on our planet was the one with the most complicated language and well then again humans are fucked.

Somehow though we have ended up meeting up with the advanced perverts of the universe who's only mission is to visit earth, anally probe people, and steal bovine ass's. Yet with all of their advanced technology they still have not figured out how to avoid being seen by us primate sex toys.

why would we be killed or be slaves?

i mean is that what you would do if you found something young and immature?

when you see some small birdlings out of their mothers nest..donty ou try to help them?

do you really go around stomping on anthills for fun?


just wondering

borked 01-03-2007 04:02 PM

it's gonna be a good year:

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CLEVELAND, Ohio, January 3, 2007: The Church of the SubGenius has announced that the end of the world will take place on Thursday, July 5, 2007. In preparation for the fulfillment of this doomsday prophecy, the Church is requesting that all of its members participate in a festival with rock concerts and blasphemous rituals taking place in upstate New York, during the final weekend before the arrival of the apocalypse....read more

Milkmans World 01-03-2007 04:04 PM

ufoartwork.com ??????

Well if someone drew it, it must be true.

Phoenix 01-03-2007 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milkmans World (Post 11649056)
ufoartwork.com ??????

Well if someone drew it, it must be true.

who knows..but some of it is from way before christ...like 1000;s of years before

some from the 8th century etc

they are just paintings and something to look at


im not claiming anything...just pointing out info.

the Drake equation basically makes it im possible for there not to be other life in the universe...highly adaptable smart beings.

they learn how to side step time...or step th rough a wormhole...they probably read gfy to see Franck and lazonby's witty remarks..lol

Huggles 01-03-2007 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 11649006)
Some of the rules are pretty damn set and inability to travel at the speed of or greater than light is one of them. Now if you wanted a tad bit more creditability, maybe and a big maybe some advanced life form has mastered the tracking, traveling through, and usage of worm holes or folds in the universe.


Well, Einstein's theories have shown us that as speeds increase, time slows down. Basically you travel through "time" at the speed of light. 300,000 km/s.

When you travel through "space" at any sort of speed, you are taking away from how fast you're travelling through time.


If aliens had developed a way to travel through space close to the speed of light, certainly they would have developed a method of stasis for their bodies. Assuming they have done these both, yes, it is very possible that they could be visiting us and not have FTL travel.


Wormholes and such... well... keep in mind in the last 70 years we have seen Dr Bohr's atomic theory develop and blossom, unfortunately for us it's merely ended up with more questions and less answers. At this stage nobody is able to sit back and say what a race 1000 years beyond our technology could be capable of, let alone 100,000 years...


Plus I haven't reached that chapter in The Fabric of Reality yet :P

needlive 01-03-2007 04:12 PM

I believe that they exist...if they are more intelligent, and as already said they have to be to get here, I still fear that not knowing humankind could be better for them

Milkmans World 01-03-2007 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 11649103)
Well, Einstein's theories have shown us that as speeds increase, time slows down. Basically you travel through "time" at the speed of light. 300,000 km/s.

When you travel through "space" at any sort of speed, you are taking away from how fast you're travelling through time.

But also, from what I remember of a brief history of time, the faster you travel the greater your mass, increasing to infinity when you hit the speed of light. That might make a good fetish site, but I can't really see any survivers from it.

WiredGuy 01-03-2007 04:19 PM

LOL, I thought you were talking about the flight we were on there for a sec Brad!
WG

After Shock Media 01-03-2007 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milkmans World (Post 11649143)
But also, from what I remember of a brief history of time, the faster you travel the greater your mass, increasing to infinity when you hit the speed of light. That might make a good fetish site, but I can't really see any survivers from it.

Yes the faster you go the more mass you get and therefore the more fuel you need which is more mass and round and around you go.

After Shock Media 01-03-2007 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 11649030)
why would we be killed or be slaves?

i mean is that what you would do if you found something young and immature?

when you see some small birdlings out of their mothers nest..donty ou try to help them?

do you really go around stomping on anthills for fun?


just wondering

Just agreeing with such people as Carl Sagan. Look at our own history if you want and how we treat people we feel are inferior.

Phoenix 01-03-2007 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 11649158)
LOL, I thought you were talking about the flight we were on there for a sec Brad!
WG

on our flight they planted a screaming baby so no one would notice..lol

Huggles 01-03-2007 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 11649169)
Yes the faster you go the more mass you get and therefore the more fuel you need which is more mass and round and around you go.


Unless of course aliens have found a way to manipulate gravity...


I mean, there are so many things we have no clue about yet. We're still pretty backwards, hell, we can't even cure the common cold yet.


IF... IF UFOs are actual space craft... from what it sounds like about their craft, they may have discovered a way of negating gravity.

eroswebmaster 01-03-2007 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milkmans World (Post 11649056)
ufoartwork.com ??????

Well if someone drew it, it must be true.

Apparently you didn't check the site out.

I get sick of this whole debate on whether or not life exists out there or not...or if they did whether or not they could get here or not...even ASM has implied that there are "rules" to the theory on the speed of light, and they can't be broken.

Imagine how many so called "rules" have been broken over the last 100 years, only because someone a bit smarter came along and found out everyone else was wrong...shit we'd still be living on a flat planet if that were the case.

While we know much more than we used to...I think it would be presumptious to think that we have figured it all out at this point in our existence, and nothing can or will change.

Phoenix 01-03-2007 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 11649187)
Just agreeing with such people as Carl Sagan. Look at our own history if you want and how we treat people we feel are inferior.

yes...but lets not compare apples and oranges.

a very short time ago..people thought it was evil to wash and you would get sick...the black plague..lol

we did a lot of fucked up shit in our brief history here.

however the people we already choose to go into space for us...are some of thee best on the planet...i am quite sure anyone that could achieve sending someone across the galaxay or indeed from another galaxy...would have strict rules on how to deal with the inhabitants they find on various planets

now....just to point out again...im not claiming anything..just trying to keep peoples minds open.

Carl Sagan is a smart cat..but he is selling books
never trust the smiling merchant with all the answers

marumari 01-03-2007 04:33 PM

I just added you to my list

After Shock Media 01-03-2007 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 11649233)
Unless of course aliens have found a way to manipulate gravity...


I mean, there are so many things we have no clue about yet. We're still pretty backwards, hell, we can't even cure the common cold yet.


IF... IF UFOs are actual space craft... from what it sounds like about their craft, they may have discovered a way of negating gravity.

gravity and mass = two different things.

Just go with worm holes or folding space please. It is less of an arguement.
Then proceed with the whole issue about why such beings that have mastered hoping from one point in the universe to another or as you say faster than light speed, yet could not figure out the whole stealth issue against us primates.

Huggles 01-03-2007 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 11649187)
Just agreeing with such people as Carl Sagan. Look at our own history if you want and how we treat people we feel are inferior.


Maybe an alien race has genetically bred-out aggression?


Look at human beings and our system of values. It's very egotistical of us to think that any other race would have similar beliefs as us, especially one so far advanced.


Could be they have something similar to star trek, not to interfere with developing civilizations. Depending on how far advanced they are, maybe some of these UFOs visiting us could be tourists coming to laugh at the primitive apes?


I want some alien frat boys to come down and pick me up to goto a space strip-joint. I wanna watch 8 legged alien strippers show off all 4 of their vaginas while high on space weed. Imagine the drugs, alcohol, and space-parties they must have? I mean, if they party....

WiredGuy 01-03-2007 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 11649190)
on our flight they planted a screaming baby so no one would notice..lol

I didn't even notice the baby since the hot chick was distracting me too much :)
WG

StuartD 01-03-2007 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eroswebmaster (Post 11649234)
Apparently you didn't check the site out.

I get sick of this whole debate on whether or not life exists out there or not...or if they did whether or not they could get here or not...even ASM has implied that there are "rules" to the theory on the speed of light, and they can't be broken.

Imagine how many so called "rules" have been broken over the last 100 years, only because someone a bit smarter came along and found out everyone else was wrong...shit we'd still be living on a flat planet if that were the case.

While we know much more than we used to...I think it would be presumptious to think that we have figured it all out at this point in our existence, and nothing can or will change.

Very well said my man... there's no possible way we can predict rules on a society that may be thousands or even millions of years more advanced than we are. Nor could we predict what they will or won't do, or if they could or couldn't discover us.

And yet we sit here trying to convince each other of what they are doing because of what we know.

Scott McD 01-03-2007 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 11648872)
A flying saucerlike object hovered low over O'Hare International Airport

That's where i stopped believing them...

After Shock Media 01-03-2007 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 11649237)
yes...but lets not compare apples and oranges.

a very short time ago..people thought it was evil to wash and you would get sick...the black plague..lol

we did a lot of fucked up shit in our brief history here.

however the people we already choose to go into space for us...are some of thee best on the planet...i am quite sure anyone that could achieve sending someone across the galaxay or indeed from another galaxy...would have strict rules on how to deal with the inhabitants they find on various planets

now....just to point out again...im not claiming anything..just trying to keep peoples minds open.

Carl Sagan is a smart cat..but he is selling books
never trust the smiling merchant with all the answers

Same thoughts also are with Stephen Hawkins.

Huggles 01-03-2007 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 11649269)
gravity and mass = two different things.

Just go with worm holes or folding space please. It is less of an arguement.
Then proceed with the whole issue about why such beings that have mastered hoping from one point in the universe to another or as you say faster than light speed, yet could not figure out the whole stealth issue against us primates.


Well, I remember watching something on TV about a sighting in Mexico that was appearing on an IR camera but nobody could see it with the naked eye. I really have no clue why they would choose to be stealthy or not?


Like I said, sounds like a lot of these "craft" are pretty small scouts or even just tourists. One look at our political systems and religious beliefs on this planet would tell me that aliens would not want to be known to us. Can you imagine what religious people would do if aliens showed up, and were like "hi, sup?" and they had abolished religion completely?


Shxt, Half of N America praises Jesus and half of Eurabia praises Allah, do you think they'll happily welcome these space heathens? Especially if the bible preaches that God made us in his image... well then, who made little green men?


Also, if I was an alien, I would totally anal probe people for fun and record it. Go back home to my alien planet and show people on an alien version of youtube.


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