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SmokeyTheBear 11-11-2006 10:40 AM

Police punch man in head ( video )
 
http://www.filecabi.net/video/news-police-beat10.html

Now he will make out like a bandit. prob walk away with over a million i bet.

Fucksakes 11-11-2006 10:42 AM

you post alot of cop beating videos I noticed

fris 11-11-2006 10:47 AM

harsh video

marko13 11-11-2006 10:51 AM

uff.... bad video for police.... he is so brutal...

Bossman 11-11-2006 10:52 AM

Police state?

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-11-2006 10:55 AM

dude, the guy wasn't doing anything but trying to stop the cop from punching him, lmfao

Lazonby 11-11-2006 10:58 AM

I wonder why they arrested him in the first place. If it was for something bad, then I won't be shedding any tears for him.

Fred Quimby 11-11-2006 11:04 AM

You can see the suspects right hand clench the officers leg before the cop hits him. That is a felonious assault and the cop had every right to defend himself.

SmokeyTheBear 11-11-2006 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Fucksakes (Post 11292426)
you post alot of cop beating videos I noticed

hmm i dont recall posting any police beating videos ?

dont quote me on that though i could be wrong.

SmokeyTheBear 11-11-2006 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Fred Quimby (Post 11292504)
You can see the suspects right hand clench the officers leg before the cop hits him. That is a felonious assault and the cop had every right to defend himself.

are you serious ? turn your sound up, he says he cant breathe , he obviously isnt intentionally trying to hurt the cop he merely is grabbing in an upward motion to remove the hand from his neck.. its an instictual action everyone will do when they can't breathe.. ( also a move very familiar with cops to intigate a beating ) if you choke a man with your leg/arm telling him "not to resist" he has no choice but to try and remove whatever is choking him , its a reflex action , then he looks like e is struggling

Splum 11-11-2006 11:17 AM

Quote:

Cardenas is a known gang member who had been wanted on a felony warrant for receiving stolen property.
http://www.nbc11.com/news/10285250/detail.html

dougeetx 11-11-2006 11:17 AM

Isn't this the one where the feds are investigating?

Babaganoosh 11-11-2006 11:19 AM

Without knowing what he did to tangle with the police in the first place, I think calling it police brutality would be premature. Sometimes in the real world people need to be punched in the face repeatedly. Perhaps this guy is one of those people?

David_MaskTV 11-11-2006 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 11292519)
are you serious ? turn your sound up, he says he cant breathe , he obviously isnt intentionally trying to hurt the cop he merely is grabbing in an upward motion to remove the hand from his neck.. its an instictual action everyone will do when they can't breathe.. ( also a move very familiar with cops to intigate a beating ) if you choke a man with your leg/arm telling him "not to resist" he has no choice but to try and remove whatever is choking him , its a reflex action , then he looks like e is struggling


U have a point.

Angry 11-11-2006 11:21 AM

video is 2 days old and the prick deserved it. He is a scumbag and needs to be taken off of the street. The cop should have raped him in the ass wtih his baton. Who really cares? This guy was wanted for having and selling stolen weapons on the street and gang related. Should they have bought him some roses and wiped his ass for him? Fuck that. He got what was coming to him. Whining retards.

Babaganoosh 11-11-2006 11:24 AM

And there we have it:

"Vernon claimed Cardenas is a known gang member"

"According to a person familiar with the investigation, the arrest report claims that Cardenas fought with the officers before they held him down and placed handcuffs on him."

Let the beating commence.

SmokeyTheBear 11-11-2006 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry (Post 11292543)
video is 2 days old and the prick deserved it. He is a scumbag and needs to be taken off of the street. The cop should have raped him in the ass wtih his baton. Who really cares? This guy was wanted for having and selling stolen weapons on the street and gang related. Should they have bought him some roses and wiped his ass for him? Fuck that. He got what was coming to him. Whining retards.


hmm i didnt see any of those details , hardly a "scumbag" if his only charge was being "suspected" to have recieved stolen property. That could just mean someone parked a stolen car at his house.. not great but not deserving of being beaten .. especially when it hasnt been proven yet..

SmokeyTheBear 11-11-2006 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 11292558)
And there we have it:

"Vernon claimed Cardenas is a known gang member"

"According to a person familiar with the investigation, the arrest report claims that Cardenas fought with the officers before they held him down and placed handcuffs on him."

Let the beating commence.

lol and what do you think they are going to say .. " turns out the guy was an angel and we were totally wrong " ..

NOT...


How do you think that officer would write his report.. " had some jackass down , gave him shots to the head and choked him for a bit , fun times had by all "

Fred Quimby 11-11-2006 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 11292519)
are you serious ? turn your sound up, he says he cant breathe , he obviously isnt intentionally trying to hurt the cop he merely is grabbing in an upward motion to remove the hand from his neck.. its an instictual action everyone will do when they can't breathe.. ( also a move very familiar with cops to intigate a beating ) if you choke a man with your leg/arm telling him "not to resist" he has no choice but to try and remove whatever is choking him , its a reflex action , then he looks like e is struggling

If he is talking he is breathing.

Quote:

he obviously isnt intentionally trying to hurt the cop
Pls don't speculate on his intentions as we don't know what caused 2 cops to take him down in the first place.

Babaganoosh 11-11-2006 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 11292574)
lol and what do you think they are going to say .. " turns out the guy was an angel and we were totally wrong " ..

NOT...


How do you think that officer would write his report.. " had some jackass down , gave him shots to the head and choked him for a bit , fun times had by all "

The guy chose to fight the police. Even thinking that's a good idea entitles him to a free beating. I have no reason to doubt that the police are telling the truth about him fighting them. If he weren't fighting he wouldn't have ended up on the ground with a cop thumping on him.

RTP 11-11-2006 11:41 AM

that happened in LA, the video JUST got released on youtube and caused a whole bunch of shit now. the truth of the matter is that is is a clip from the whole entire incident. the guy was extremely violent and fought police, there was a full investigation when the shit happened and they were cleared by the superior court.

The video was released by a watch group to cause shit which it did, NOW he and his lawyer are suing, just anothe case of using the media as a tool.

The guy was wanted for stolen property and gang shit. The cops saw him - went after him. The part you don't see is he went after the cops guns during the struggle.

THIS FUCK FACE WENT AFTER THIER GUNS.

But you only see him getting punched in the face.

C_U_Next_Tuesday 11-11-2006 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 11292537)
Without knowing what he did to tangle with the police in the first place, I think calling it police brutality would be premature. Sometimes in the real world people need to be punched in the face repeatedly. Perhaps this guy is one of those people?

I agree :thumbsup

starpimps 11-11-2006 11:55 AM

douche bags

asianbeautychat 11-11-2006 12:00 PM

It's normal, they always do this.

klinzter 11-11-2006 12:09 PM

fucken pigs! they all suck

Babaganoosh 11-11-2006 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by klinzter (Post 11292714)
fucken pigs! they all suck

Quit fucking up and breaking the laws the rest of us have to abide by and your idiotic opinion will change.

asianbeautychat 11-11-2006 12:17 PM

Police is also human being, I guess there must be some reason. I can understand but I don't agree that.

Babaganoosh 11-11-2006 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by asianbeautychat (Post 11292748)
Police is also human being, I guess there must be some reason. I can understand but I don't agree that.

Please stop butchering my native language. Your English makes me a sad panda.

http://paowang.com/blog/redrocks/upload/panda_sad.jpg

SmokeyTheBear 11-11-2006 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 11292601)
The guy chose to fight the police.

not on the video he didnt, he couldnt breathe he did what every human on earth reflex action is to stop whatever is making you not breathe.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 11292601)
I have no reason to doubt that the police are telling the truth about him fighting them. If he weren't fighting he wouldn't have ended up on the ground with a cop thumping on him.

nice theory . so everyone who has been punched in the head by cops must have been fighting or they wouldnt be getting punched in the head..

So lets just setup a hypothetical situation.. a bad cop punches and attacks unsuspecting person , arrests him and says he was fighting.. now by your flawed theory there is no bad cops , its impossible to lie and it didnt happen.. the cop said he fought thus he deserved to get attacked..

no offense but grab a clue.. :1orglaugh

SmokeyTheBear 11-11-2006 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Fred Quimby (Post 11292594)
If he is talking he is breathing.

the sky is blue grass is green..

if your getting choked you try to stop it..
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred Quimby (Post 11292594)
Pls don't speculate on his intentions as we don't know what caused 2 cops to take him down in the first place.

i speculated only about what i watched not about what the grapevine says he may or may not have done..

He was being choked , if his intention was to hurt the cop he would have been punhcing him hitting him anything , he wasnt , he had his hand on his leg period.. thats why i speculated that its OBVIOUS to anyone watching the video it was a "defensive" reaction not an "offensive reaction"


Now granted we dont see the whole video.. if they were struggling for a gun and its laying behind the officer , then its a whole different story, his reach could be interpreted as a grasp for the weapon..

nikki99 11-11-2006 12:32 PM

oh my fucking God

SmokeyTheBear 11-11-2006 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RTP (Post 11292620)
that happened in LA, the video JUST got released on youtube and caused a whole bunch of shit now. the truth of the matter is that is is a clip from the whole entire incident. the guy was extremely violent and fought police, there was a full investigation when the shit happened and they were cleared by the superior court.

The video was released by a watch group to cause shit which it did, NOW he and his lawyer are suing, just anothe case of using the media as a tool.

The guy was wanted for stolen property and gang shit. The cops saw him - went after him.


hmm i think you have your facts wrong , its a top story because the fbi is investigating the case.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061110/us_nm/crime_lapd_dc

Quote:

Originally Posted by RTP (Post 11292620)
The part you don't see is he went after the cops guns during the struggle.

THIS FUCK FACE WENT AFTER THIER GUNS.

But you only see him getting punched in the face.

im not saying your wrong but ..
do you have any proof of this or did you just read some cop post it on a board ?

Babaganoosh 11-11-2006 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 11292773)
not on the video he didnt, he couldnt breathe he did what every human on earth reflex action is to stop whatever is making you not breathe.



nice theory . so everyone who has been punched in the head by cops must have been fighting or they wouldnt be getting punched in the head..

So lets just setup a hypothetical situation.. a bad cop punches and attacks unsuspecting person , arrests him and says he was fighting.. now by your flawed theory there is no bad cops , its impossible to lie and it didnt happen.. the cop said he fought thus he deserved to get attacked..

no offense but grab a clue.. :1orglaugh

No offense but for such a seemingly smart guy, you sure say a lot of stupid shit. Most cops are good. My definition of good for the sake of this discussion would be law-abiding, honest, professional and level-headed. Most of the people who cops get in trouble for pummeling are not good. They usually have previous offenses and a history of making seriously bad decisions. To blindly give the criminal the benefit of the doubt is extremely foolish.

Cops generally have to be good or they wouldn't get the job. These days, to become a cop you have to go through background checks, credit checks and a personality/mental evaluation. That doesn't mean that bad cops don't get in or that they don't become shitheads later on but as a general rule they do their jobs quite well.

Honestly, you're making a judgment based on the last few seconds of the video. You have NO idea what happened prior to this chucklehead getting punched by the police. If he was fighting the police before he was taken down and is continuing to struggle (as is seen) on the video, the police are completely and totally justified in punching him to gain control. I applaud the cop who is hitting him for showing amazing restraint and only using his fist when there are other more painful options within easy reach.

RTP 11-11-2006 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 11292819)
im not saying your wrong but ..
do you have any proof of this or did you just read some cop post it on a board ?

they have the complete video

ro8in 11-11-2006 12:41 PM

I'm in the middle ... The problem is we didn't see what happend before it all we see is a few second footage of what is probally almost the ending of the arrest.. One could even question why would the person recording this post only the last part on youtube.. Was this the moment the person finally got his camera on record or was he filming all the way and on purpose decide to hide us from the footage filmed before this part?.. Anyway we can speculate on this matter much longer.. What we do see is clearly the cop beating the guy without being any need for it.. Yes the guy may be a scum bag, but this should not make any impact on a police officers descision in doing anything. A cop should do what he is trained for and what he is doing on the video goes beyond his proffesionalism so in that case yes the police officer is wrong...

But as this is a forum and not a courthouse we are free to bring our personal aspect into it.. Yes maybe the guy did deserve a good beating hehehe so thats what keeps me in the middle...

RTP 11-11-2006 12:47 PM

fyi it was posted by a watch group....hmm i wonder why they didnt post the whole thing.

if someone goes after a gun and your a cop, fucking own them...if you are from LA, you know so many cops get killed it's sad. they subdued him. good for them, cops beat and kill people often around here and it is for good reason. its the guy who got shot 60 times by the cops. you see the video of him getting shot then his family crying. when you look at the entire video, he tells them he is armed and gonna kill everyone of them - he makes a move to pull put something from his pants and gets killed, then people demonstrate saying it was a wrongful death.

it's fucking sad but dont fuck with the police and don't try to resist arrest especially if you are a gang member or wanted felon. a liberal standpoint on this topic is not an option or its fucking anarchy

Martin 11-11-2006 12:48 PM

Fuck alot of cops are just power tripping assholes. I've had a few run ins with them. For one good cop there is 500 like this.

Im going to go listen to some Body Count.

SmokeyTheBear 11-11-2006 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 11292833)
Honestly, you're making a judgment based on the last few seconds of the video. You have NO idea what happened prior to this chucklehead getting punched by the police. If he was fighting the police before he was taken down and is continuing to struggle (as is seen) on the video, the police are completely and totally justified in punching him to gain control. I applaud the cop who is hitting him for showing amazing restraint and only using his fist when there are other more painful options within easy reach.


like i said im only conjecturing on what i saw not on what a third party says happened , we do KNOW what happened on the video , all the other rumours on here are just rumours.. so we cant go on anything other than what we saw.

obviously it would be foolish to come up with a "final conclusion" based on a tiny section of video.

I also agree if he was fighting before the cop had the right to regain control , but i havent see any evidence to suggest that happened, and it doesnt seem very likely either considering about halfway thru the clip you hear a woman saying " why are you doing that he didnt do anything to you" or something of the sort.. not the sort of thing you would say if you just wtinessed a man fighting with the cops..

SmokeyTheBear 11-11-2006 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RTP (Post 11292836)
they have the complete video

so what your saying is you made all that shit up.. ?

you said

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The part you don't see is he went after the cops guns during the struggle.

THIS FUCK FACE WENT AFTER THIER GUNS.
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do you have any factual evidence to back this up is all im asking..

trashymedia 11-11-2006 02:06 PM

same as the R K incident
 
the media only played the portion of the tape that (over and over and over and over) showed Rodney King getting his ass beat. Now they conveniently left out the part that showed him getting to his feet after being Tasered and lunging for one of the cops. Was it strange that the other guy in his car laid down as ordered and was not touched? If anything, the media was to blame for the LA riots, as up until Sept. 11, channel 9 news had a vendetta for the LAPD. Not to say that they were angels themselves, as they had (and still have) alot of internal issues. After Sept. 11, many media outlets changed their tune as it was not PC to bash cops after all of those guys died in the world trade center. Shit still happens, but if you have never had to face someone who is trying to beat your ass (no matter if you carry a badge and a gun), it is very hard to judge what you are seeing. The clip is being used to provoke a reaction, and it seems to be working. The cops will probably be cleared in Federal court, but have their asses sued civily as there are 100's of lawyers lining up now to take this case (sharks smelling blood in the water). Just my 2 cents spoken from experience...


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