Internet Gambling Ban Passes And Will Be Law In USA!
 

Bill Frist attached it to a Ports Security Bill late last night and it got passed at around 12 midnight. A version has already passed congress, so this means it's headed to the president's desk for signing.

http://www.eog.com/news/index.aspx?id=9320

What a surprise. Those assholes.

that doesnt mean shit yet

Just wait...

They also want to slip net neutrality into an unrelated bill when they come back for November's "lame duck" session.:Oh crap

yeah they are just stupid, make it legal and tax the companies and make more money for the gov. dumb fucks. Scared of people getting addicted? The ones addicted will still figure out ways to do it.

:2 cents: !!

indeed.. also if it is not legalized and the bill gets signed, which i really doubt, then all it takes is a 4th party processor to solve this... i.e Neteller. but Neteller is well known so visa might block neteller.. so all you need is an offshore billing method that is not only involved in gambling.

Then you don't know shit!

This means everything in the online gambling industry!!

Online poker as we know it will be complete destructured.

partypoker has 80k online gamers in peak hours, that number will be reduced to 20k.

how the hell can someone "attach" a bill to another totally unrelated bill so it gets passed, thats fucked up in itself!

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i thought online gaming was already illegal.

They don't give a shit about anyone's addictions. It's to preserve the "good ole boy" networking that gives certain areas legalized gambling. If you want to gamble on poker would you rather fly to Mississippi or hop on your favorite online site?

shit..so what will happen with all US online casinos now ???

Happens regularly.

The minimum wage increase bill didn't pass because the final version had repealling the tax cuts for the rich attatched.

This was probably pushed through with a lot of donations from Casinos that do not want to lose business to online competition. Here in NV they have pushed for a state lottery like 4 times and everytime the casinos lobby hard enough to get it shut down.

No shit, it's the biggest load of undemocratic bullshit you could imagine. Make a bill that everyone wants to pass, then attach a shitty law onto that to increase the chances of it being passed. If it wouldn't get passed on its own then it shouldn't get passed at all. (I'm not even American)

Online poker kicks arse, this is a balatant case of the US government saying, we don't mind you playing poker but not if the money is going to leave our country.

was thinking the same :thumbsup

It is one of the biggest problems of the so called democracy of the US... in order to get bills past, they often tack on unrelated issues to get people to vote for it. In this case, they take a bill that cannot help but get passed, and tack on a totally unrelated piece of legislation/

Why does this work? It's the shame factor. Nobody is going to vote against a "ports security" bill, nobody is going to want to look like they are weak on homeland security or against supporting the troops or anything like that (hey, the flip flop on troop support did John Kerry in by itself!). So they tack on unpopular extremely partisan riders on the side, and when the bill gets passed, those other riders come right along with it.

THis is one of the reasons why there was such a big fight about presidential line-item vetos, which would allow the president to not only veto an entire bill, but veto certain parts of it, typically these tacks ons and pork projects.

I hope that the democrats take this legislation and jam it down the republican's throats in November... Frist is an asshole above and beyond the call of duty.

Alex

It is this just makes the penalties a lot stiffer I believe.

Online gaming IN THE US is illegal. But online gaming in other countries is not, and the moving of money to those other countries for the purposes of online gaming has been, well, a nice grey area.

My bet is that all the poker advertising on TV, radio, and all their sponsorships and whatnot are done for, and the WSOP will slowly trundle back to being a bunch of guys in Vegas who all know each other.

yeah that was stupid just did a readup

under 20k

You fucktard

you don't know a fucking thing about this subject.

I share my apartment with a guy earning $20-30k/month on playing on partypoker (hit me up in icq and I will provide you username so you can see for yourself if you are in doubt)

I found out about this ealier today when he smashed his printer in the wall.
He foundation of income is ruined, the people puttin money in the pots are gone. 80% of the pokersociety has been eliminated, this will leave mostly pro's at high levels and too much competition to bother.

It means a lot to all kind of people and it means the world to the people collection from fishs.
Some pokersites has devalued to something like third of their iroganal value caused by this.

You are absolutely clueless.

Why was David Carruthers arrested in July?

I think the reason line the item veto hasn't been approved is because thinking members of the legislature know it would be used to appease those who want certain bills by attatching them to bills certain to pass then the president could veto the unrelated. Example: The minority party wants to raise the minimum wage. To end debate the party in charge agrees to it in order to get the minority party to agree to a budget bill they weren't happy with. The bill goes to the president, he vetos the minimum wage part and approves the budget only the party in charge wants. The party in charge gets to say, "Well, we tried", knowing all along what was going down.

Line item veto would be abused in any administration, let alone a single party one.

Hang on... they guy is making 20k-30k a month and he shares an apartment?

How metro!

yeah line-item vetos were suppose to take care of this. You have to assume that if a line-item veto isn't used then the President is okay all aspects of the bill otherwise he would have a) not signed it or b) line-item vetoed it.

Guess I should cash in my chips before it is too late.

that is a little strange

As far as I know line-item veto is a reality since clinton was in office. He even used it a few times. Bush I don't think has used it (probably because his party controls both houses of congress).

Then why does Bush keep asking them to approve line item veto?

I agree completely.

I think I will become gay ... would help ... :winkwink:

fuck gambling, we are in porn


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This sucks -- honestly though do you think they will try to enforce on consumers? They have no jurisdiction over the foreign online casinos, so there only viable enforcement option is going after consumers. What a joke that would be, Feds coming after individuals playing 1.00 poker games online - silliness!

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that's some bullshit, although it can't be that bad...