Europeans : do you feel Europe is becoming Islamic ?
 

read this today:

http://www.tomorrowsworld.org/cgi-bi...tem=1149293702

what are your thought on this? do you feel Europe is becoming Islamic

personally I don't have anything againsts Muslims.

Depend which country you look.For example England is full with muslims.

I don't mind people who believe. What I do mind is people trying to force their believes upon others. What I really do mind is when people mix religion with politics.

No not really...

it would be just another good reason to leave europe

I don't really care as long they buy porn

Agreed :)

Don't but could be one day!

I can agree with that. As long as people leave me alone with their religious beliefs, they can do whatever they want. If they want to put their head on the ground five times a day to pray, they can go right ahead. Just don't run into my house with bombs strapped to yourself because some fuckhead told you to do it in the name of Allah.

There is already enough reasons for that.

If you live in Germany, for sure ... that's why i moved to Spain.

War ja nicht mehr auszuhalten in Deutschland. Ich bin so froh, dort weg zu sein :winkwink:

There is a reason that Europe is being called 'Eurabia' by those in the know.

If you don't have anything against Muslims, then either you haven't been paying attention or you're an idiot. Saying you don't have anything against Muslims is like saying you don't have anything against paedophiles, murderers or AIDS. Since the aim of Islam is to bring the entire world under it's control, as an infidel and pornographer you would be one of the first to get his head cut off in the local football stadium.

It pisses me off that 5 years after 911, people still think that Islam is a peaceful, benevolent religion. How stupid do people have to be to not take the time to find out about the reality of this jihad which is being waged against us all.

Islam is not only a religion but also an entire political system. Islam not only tells it's followers how to pray, but also with which hand they must wipe their ass, how to think, what to think and how to express themselves politically. It is the aim of Islam to become not only the single religion left on Earth but also the sole form of governance. Islam is nothing more that a vehicle for 7th Century Arab Imperialism.

Right on...

no way .

Who might they be?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurabia

Europe may not feel completely Islamic yet, give it 50 years and people will be wondering how the fuck they allowed it to happen.

Agreed. But I don't think the sky is falling in Europe anymore than in the US.
Islam is indeed a sick and obsolete ideology, but I'm under the impression that a lot of muslims migrating to western countries learn to adapt to modern society while keeping only the spiritual (and comforting I suppose) part of their belief.

I mean if most of them are converting into at least semi-independent individuals, we're winning the "war".

Then Lazonby shouldn't use the word. The Wiki article uses it as a positive word and Lazonby clearly doesn't.

It's interesting what you say. I have had a few Muslim friends here in Australia, but I see the exact opposite of what you say. The younger generation is so caught up in the tribalistic pull of Islam they almost compete with each other as to who is more Islamic. If one of them goes to a club, or a girl kisses them (where a girl advancing on a man is un-Islamic) they insult each other and the guilty party attempts to deny it. It's kind of bizarre to be honest, but I guess that is the pull of religion and tribalism.

Wikipedia calls it a derogatory term.

Come on, lets give him a chance. Maybe he seriously thought an Arabian Europe was a good idea? I mean those evil white people have controlled the land for way too long!

From Wikipedia

Since 'Eurabia' is a name given to the gradual Islamization of Europe, and since Islam is absolutely the worst possible religious/ political/ supremacist ideology to follow, it is hardly a positive term.

'Bouncing tits' is a positive term and so are 'chocolate flavoured', 'money tree' and 'happy holidays', but 'Eurabia' certainly isn't, because it means the gradual process by which 300 million people will be enslaved, raped and murdered, which is exactly what has happened to the people in lands conquered by Islam.

this is kind of cute:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...abia_cover.jpg

it's about time

Unfortunately, The Economist is prone to being politically correct and hence will downright lie to the reader, in order to appease the Muslims it thinks will burn down it's offices if it tells the truth.

You'd be better off with something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Eurabia-Euro-A.../dp/083864077X.

Jihad is only one part of this, it doesn't mean that Islam as a religion is not peaceful.
by the way, how do you know it's not peacful ? have you tried ? no, you didn't

I'm sure this behaviour is quite common, it's just hard to do any real analysis on the quantity because in nature it's more of a quality study.

To be honest, most muslims I see in the streets are also the "bad seeds", but I suspect that is due to the quiet ones being less visible and the agenda of general media. The imams are shouting and cursing, but are not taken seriously in political affairs.

did anyone of you blind haters ever cross you mind that this might be a good thing for europe and the us ? maybe this kind of population can contribute something? who said europe was not happy under Islamic power ?

You are the worst fake nick ever.

In a blinding flash, Allah just put you onto my ignore list. Fucking idiot.

Maybe because people are hatin' because the thought of a bunch of religious zealots running everything is a frightening thing.

You do realize, those who follow religion are weak minded slaves and are just pawns for a few who control the religious ideals of the followers, don't you? And before you jump, I'm not discriminating against any one religion. If people would just think for themselves and tolerate their brother human (which will never happen) we wouldn't be having this discussion. It's a sad state of affairs that "western culture" doesn't jive with the "Islamic faith" and both sides are to blame.

Fucking people.
Pathetic.

Well actually, Western culture isn't to blame, unless of course you are talking about allowing unchecked immigration of millions of Muslims into our countries.

Islam is the one to blame, since Islam is the one which calls for violence and death against all the infidels.

I'm just trying to throw the blame around indiscriminately, dude.
:)

Blind haters? Comparing my level of tolerance to that of any muslim is just ridiculous. When driven by thought and reason, seeing the shades of gray, only then will you realize the meaning of tolerance. For hatred to exist you must see the world from a black and white perspective, like a lot of muslims do. They hate all things not muslim.

(Most) Europeans (and Americans) cherish their free will and their freedom of speech. I hope that someday, you will learn to appreciate the value of these concepts as well.

Actually, I find it amusing they're willing to blow each other up - i.e. Sunni vs. Shiite, suicide bombers in crowds of other Muslims, etc.

I don't think they (the fanatics) discriminate with their hate. *shrug*

Well yeah they do.

The Sunnis don't consider the Shi'ites true Muslims, and vice versa, which is why they kill each other, as the penalty in Islam for being an infidel or heretic is death.

Nah I don't think Europe is becoming Islamic.. But i think Blackpool is turning into Poland...Everywhere I turn there's a Polish person, they're knocking at my door begging for jobs, they're getting on the council housing lists, they're wandering around the supermarket talking Polish..

I'm starting to feel foreign in my own home.... no offence meant to the Polish btw..!! I've just noted a lot more immigrants lately

i feeel my town is becoming eastern european.

hahaha i didnt see your post rigrunner!! yeh mostly polish here