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kenny 06-19-2002 11:04 PM

Super Power
 
The united states is becoming the world's super power, we pretty much run the UN and any country that even thinks about a attack on the US has picked the path of self destruction.
What do you think?
Is the US in sight of world domination?
Are all these 3rd world countries just so bored they don't have nothing else to do, but player hate the super power?

Goonx 06-19-2002 11:05 PM

Are you looking for WWIII ??

Fletch XXX 06-19-2002 11:06 PM

Mmmm power.

[Labret] 06-19-2002 11:09 PM

We are the new Roman Empire.

But all empires fall. History has never let us down in that respect.

Lev 06-19-2002 11:12 PM

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But all empires fall. History has never let us down in that respect.
Very true, it's a matter of time

pr0 06-19-2002 11:12 PM

We need to join up with Canada, Australia, England, & Ireland...and take over the world.

Starting with France & the Middle East


Axi's & Allie's fuck that...i want our coallition to be called....

The Spoiled Rich Guys that finally decided not to ask for your shit, so now we will just take it.

Saudi Arabia & all you middle eastern countries, hand over all your oil......South America, mow down your "rain forest" & give us all the timber.

Then lets all build one big fucking Party Crib thats a state wide, & party off everyone elses misery :)

kenny 06-19-2002 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by [Labret]
We are the new Roman Empire.

But all empires fall. History has never let us down in that respect.

History repeats it's self, but when we do fall the end has come for all

Pathfinder 06-19-2002 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by kenny
The united states is becoming the world's super power, we pretty much run the UN and any country that even thinks about a attack on the US has picked the path of self destruction.
What do you think?
Is the US in sight of world domination?
Are all these 3rd world countries just so bored they don't have nothing else to do, but player hate the super power?

Correction; we are not becoming, we are the worlds greatest economic and military power.

We are not out to dominate anyone per se, but we have, and will continue to do whatever we perceive to be in our best economiic interests, giving little concern to whoes toes may be stepped on.

That is the primary driving force behind our foriegn policy and many countries have a problem with our success in this endeavor.

Brown Bear 06-19-2002 11:13 PM

China is still a threat. They have over 1.2 billion people and they are becoming wealthier as a country all the time. They have lots of nukes and a huge army.

pr0 06-19-2002 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by Brown Bear
China is still a threat. They have over 1.2 billion people and they are becoming wealthier as a country all the time. They have lots of nukes and a huge army.
We also run a large island right off their coast called Taiwan. :1orglaugh

kenny 06-19-2002 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by Brown Bear
China is still a threat. They have over 1.2 billion people and they are becoming wealthier as a country all the time. They have lots of nukes and a huge army.
Exactly, thats why we need to take the middle east down and claim it for our own, then china will have nothing on us

Brown Bear 06-19-2002 11:20 PM

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Originally posted by kenny


Exactly, thats why we need to take the middle east down and claim it for our own, then china will have nothing on us

Yeah, good luck with that.

kenny 06-19-2002 11:21 PM

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Originally posted by Brown Bear


Yeah, good luck with that.

Stop player hatin the US if we don't obtain world domination then nobody will:winkwink:

Brown Bear 06-19-2002 11:23 PM

I don't think any country is trying to gain "world domination"

America just tries to make sure other countries don't fuck with its way of life

kenny 06-19-2002 11:26 PM

It's evolution in it's finally stages combined with the natural desire and need of territory, world domination is what's left to take

pr0 06-19-2002 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by kenny
It's evolution in it's finally stages combined with the natural desire and need of territory, world domination is what's left to take
Take over what land?

The middle east is just one big ass sandbox once we're done sucking the oil out of it.

Africa, hmmm would make a nice lion & elephant zoo. But we would also inherit 50,000,000 starving children.

South America - Once again more starving children.

The artic - thats melting away

The ex soviet block - more welfare cases

Theres nothing worth dominating.... :1orglaugh

Except maybe japan, sweden & norway, those chicks r just hot :)

Brown Bear 06-19-2002 11:36 PM

I agree. Why would anybody want to take over the middle east? Besides the oil that will run out in 50 years....its a crap hole full of dirt, sand, and more dirt.

Brown Bear 06-19-2002 11:40 PM

Thats funny when you say that the US should take over other countries, espcially when the US is being taken over by Mexico.

Pathfinder 06-19-2002 11:41 PM

I will repeat; the USA is not interested in taking over land, but is interested in maintaining, and improving, itself economically.

Redbone 06-19-2002 11:47 PM

Again I agree with Pathfinder: the US has no interest in conquering anyone in the traditional way. It's just an economic imperial power, tweaked when deemed necessary by the use of force.

pr0's point speaks to this: we DON'T WANT the other places. Do we want Puerto Rico as a state? Hell no, because we'd have to pay for it. Fuck the people and their land, we say; we want them to work for us. Partying off everybody else's misery? We've been doing that for over 50 years. PARTY CRIB: NORTH AMERICA.

Pornwolf 06-19-2002 11:47 PM

Pure evolution/economics. The strong does as it likes to continue it's way of life and ensure it's happiness. Nothing more, nothing less. If this ends up becoming a world domination situation, as the current evolutionary path suggests, it's only because the smaller nations can no longer grow fast enough or contribute enough to the world stage in order to justify their existance in the increasingly advanced and competitive world we live in.

In that case they get swallowed by the dominating society and pillaged for whatever their worth. It's just evolutionary-economics.

Goonx 06-19-2002 11:50 PM

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Originally posted by Pornwolf
Pure evolution/economics. The strong does as it likes to continue it's way of life and ensure it's happiness. Nothing more, nothing less. If this ends up becoming a world domination situation, as the current evolutionary path suggests, it's only because the smaller nations can no longer grow fast enough or contribute enough to the world stage in order to justify their existance in the increasingly advanced and competitive world we live in.

In that case they get swallowed by the dominating society and pillaged for whatever their worth. It's just evolutionary-economics.

ya, what he said...

kenny 06-19-2002 11:51 PM

middle east = oil (major natural resource)
we did not get to where we are now by keeping to our selves

Steve 06-19-2002 11:54 PM

if we are the new Roman Empire, keep you eyes open for the next Crassus

kenny 06-19-2002 11:55 PM

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Originally posted by Pornwolf
Pure evolution/economics. The strong does as it likes to continue it's way of life and ensure it's happiness. Nothing more, nothing less. If this ends up becoming a world domination situation, as the current evolutionary path suggests, it's only because the smaller nations can no longer grow fast enough or contribute enough to the world stage in order to justify their existance in the increasingly advanced and competitive world we live in.

In that case they get swallowed by the dominating society and pillaged for whatever their worth. It's just evolutionary-economics.


yea what he said:)

Pathfinder 06-19-2002 11:56 PM

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Originally posted by Pornwolf
Pure evolution/economics. The strong does as it likes to continue it's way of life and ensure it's happiness. Nothing more, nothing less. If this ends up becoming a world domination situation, as the current evolutionary path suggests, it's only because the smaller nations can no longer grow fast enough or contribute enough to the world stage in order to justify their existance in the increasingly advanced and competitive world we live in.

In that case they get swallowed by the dominating society and pillaged for whatever their worth. It's just evolutionary-economics.

Blunt and taken to an extreme result, but will probably prove to be true.

bhutocracy 06-20-2002 12:07 AM

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Originally posted by [Labret]
We are the new Roman Empire.

But all empires fall. History has never let us down in that respect.

it will happen.. and sooner than the roman's did.. history happens faster these days.. rome didn't rise to the greatest world power in half a century like the US did..
but at the same time.. the roman's didn't have spy satellites and the intel gathering the US does to stay in power. It's going to be hard to fall from grace when the NSA knows the other country's bids on large contracts and US interests will always be able to prevail on the battlefield.. plus the string of countries that are really no more than unrecognised 53rd, 54th, 55th states.. or glorified US military and intelligence bases (australia, new zealand)

Dawgy 06-20-2002 12:08 AM

the US has become the very thing that the pilgrims were trying to escape from

Pornwolf 06-20-2002 12:12 AM

I think it's incredible that we have come to power so fast since we aren't even at least 1/4 as old as just about every other country! I guess that's a real testament to the old saying "Nice guys finish last!"

kenny 06-20-2002 12:12 AM

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Originally posted by Dawgy
the US has become the very thing that the pilgrims were trying to escape from
There is no better country to live in on this planet, we all pay our dues to insure our way of life and our future generations way of life

bhutocracy 06-20-2002 12:15 AM

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Originally posted by kenny


There is no better country to live in on this planet

you'll have some challengers there buddy :)

kenny 06-20-2002 12:16 AM

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Originally posted by Pornwolf
I think it's incredible that we have come to power so fast since we aren't even at least 1/4 as old as just about every other country! I guess that's a real testament to the old saying "Nice guys finish last!"
Like I said we didn't get where we are now by keeping to our selves, and we are still moving rapidly towards complete control of the world

Brown Bear 06-20-2002 12:21 AM

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Originally posted by kenny


There is no better country to live in on this planet

The US is the best country in the world to do business, but I think there are better countries in the world to actually live in.

Pornwolf 06-20-2002 12:28 AM

That's a personal opinion debate. Some folks like living in sub-Saharan Africa!? Why would you like living in the desert with Dengue Fever I don't know but some people will argue you down with their (misguided) opinions.

What I wanna know, Bhutocracy, is why the Australians, since they come from the same 'criminal cast-off' English stock we come from, why aren't they anywhere close to being a superpower instead of a country that is just a joint US/UK toy?

This isn't an insult because I love Australia but since we have so much in common heritage-wise, why are we so different?

kenny 06-20-2002 12:28 AM

There could very well be better countries to live in, I am ignorant to this fact, being I never lived in any:winkwink:

Pathfinder 06-20-2002 12:36 AM

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Originally posted by Pornwolf
That's a personal opinion debate. Some folks like living in sub-Saharan Africa!? Why would you like living in the desert with Dengue Fever I don't know but some people will argue you down with their (misguided) opinions.

What I wanna know, Bhutocracy, is why the Australians, since they come from the same 'criminal cast-off' English stock we come from, why aren't they anywhere close to being a superpower instead of a country that is just a joint US/UK toy?

This isn't an insult because I love Australia but since we have so much in common heritage-wise, why are we so different?

How about this for a couple of ideas, resources, and population, though I suspect the premise of your post was designed to gig.

LoveAsianChicks 06-20-2002 01:12 AM

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Originally posted by Brown Bear
China is still a threat. They have over 1.2 billion people and they are becoming wealthier as a country all the time. They have lots of nukes and a huge army.
China will have the largest economy within 30 years. I've seen both English & Chinese reports on the subject.
But No country with nuclear weapons will be stronger then another nuclear armed country.

Believe it or not but France could destroy America tomorrow if they wanted...France would be destroyed also but you see my point.
All nuclear powers are pretty equal in that regard.

The problem isn't powerful countries, its little 2-bit countries who might build a nuke and smuggle the thing inside some country.

Brown Bear 06-20-2002 01:19 AM

Yeah, I don't think China will ever want to use its nukes against the US. Chinese people aren't crazy like muslims. Also, China is becoming more and more of a capitalist democratic country all the time, which means they are less and less likely to do wacko crazy things like fire off some nukes at another country.

LoveAsianChicks 06-20-2002 01:23 AM

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Originally posted by kenny


There is no better country to live in on this planet, we all pay our dues to insure our way of life and our future generations way of life

Are you on crack?
I forget who did the study but USA was considered like #14 best place to live.

Keep in mind the USA does alot but everything is shipped around. You make SpiderMan & it plays around the world.
You build a car and its sold anywhere.
Japan builds a kick ass TV & it sells anywhere.

What is important is social services, hospitals, education, crime, pollution, employment etc...
These wrapped up are calling living conditions & the USA is NOT #1.

Every year its Canada which wins or Switzerland.

I actually think USA or Japan are the "best" countries cause they have lots of technology, but all that is shared/sold to everyone so they are not automatically the BEST place to live. Your far better off living in Canada :)

Brown Bear 06-20-2002 01:46 AM

Yeah, I know the survey you're thinking of. Its an survey that ranks cities overall quality of life.

Here is the 2002 rankings:


1. ZURICH


2. VIENNA

(Vienna and Vancouver tied for 2nd)

2. VANCOUVER, CA

4. SYDNEY, AU

4. GENEVA, CH

6. FRANKFURT, DE

6. AUCKLAND, NZ


6. COPENHAGEN, DK


6. HELSINKI, FI


10. BERN, CH


10. MUNICH, DE


12. AMSTERDAM, NL


12. MELBOURNE, AU


12. STOCKHOLM, SE


15. OSLO, NO

15. DUSSELDORF, DE


15. BRUSSELS, BE


18. LUXEMBOURG, LU


18. TORONTO, CA


18. SAN FRANCISCO, US


18. PERTH, AU


22. HONOLULU, US


22. WELLINGTON, NZ


22. BERLIN, DE


25. MONTREAL, CA


25. NURNBERG, DE


25. HAMBURG, DE


25. OTTAWA, CA


25. TOKYO, JP


25. BRISBANE, AU


31. PARIS, FR


31. SEATTLE, US


31. YOKOHAMA, JP


31. CALGARY, CA


35. LOS ANGELES, US


35. DUBLIN, IE


35. ADELAIDE, AU


35. KOBE, JP


35. SINGAPORE, SG


40. LYON, FR


41. WINSTON SALEM, US


41. LONDON, GB


41. WASHINGTON DC, US


41. BOSTON, US

41. NEW YORK, US


41. CHICAGO, US


41. MADRID, ES


48. LEXINGTON, US


48. PITTSBURGH, US


48. OSAKA, JP


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