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kenny 06-19-2002 05:11 PM

Hey TopBucks, what did I do?
 
I recieved this email reguarding my account I tried to get in contact someone by phone but got nothing. Can anyone see what copyrights I broke???

Your account has been deactivated due the reasons below.
Thanks~Kristin

At 06:01 PM 6/19/2002 -0700, you wrote:


NOTICE of COPYRIGHT-TRADEMARK, or RIGHT of PUBLICITY INFRINGEMENT <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

APIC - WORLDWIDE

3325 Griffin Road

Ft. Lauderdale, Florida 33312

(954) 983-7312





Our association, the Association for the Protection of Internet Copyright ("APIC") (<http://www.apic-worldwide.com>), an Internet organization dedicated to the continued education of copyright law and enforcement of such law on behalf of our members, has been notified by one of our members, that a web site, is infringing upon our member's intellectual property rights. This site is hosted by your organization . APIC is an authorized agent, and has a good faith belief that the copyrighted work described in the paragraph below is being used in manner that is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent(s) or the law.

Anyone profitting from theft of property can be held liable under the RICO Act in the U.S.



TOPBUCKS ID 3326



Date: June 19, 2002



To:



//--MY INFO--//


/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Infringing URLs:



? SHAW INTERNET

http://naughtyxxxland.com/free/tgp/b..._absolute.html

Fletch XXX 06-19-2002 05:13 PM

I got an email from Nintendo last week claiming I had "nintendo" in one of my meta tags.

:thumbsup

Pete 06-19-2002 05:13 PM

You just got caught using copyright images that you dont have the rights to

quiet 06-19-2002 05:15 PM

so is that fresh photos content in your gallery? did you pay for it?

kenny 06-19-2002 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pete
You just got caught using copyright images that you dont have the rights to
I just bought those 2 days ago fro zipcontent, thank you

volante 06-19-2002 05:21 PM

Lol, APICS aren't renowned for their accuracy - I had a similar email once concerning some pornstar pics on a gallery I made.

The pics were from the sponsor I was promoting on the gallery...

:ak47: :321GFY

kenny 06-19-2002 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
so is that fresh photos content in your gallery? did you pay for it?
http://www.zipcontent.com/members/pi...roup/page1.asp

paid for them by paypal

quiet 06-19-2002 05:37 PM

well, regardless if you're in the right or not (though it wouldn't surprise me) - i'll say this. APIC is a fucking joke. one of the most unprofessional 'organisations' around. i have a massive amount of exclusive, copyrighted content - and i'd never consider using thoses fools.

a couple of months ago they were accusing lens of support copyright violators LOL.

quiet 06-19-2002 05:40 PM

here's the thread:

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...threadid=57835

hyper 06-19-2002 05:42 PM

well it seems like the sponsor should require proof before taking action

kenny 06-19-2002 05:42 PM

Who is this APIC? And if he thinks I stole content why don't he confront me instead of telling my sponsor?

clickpimp 06-19-2002 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenny
Who is this APIC? And if he thinks I stole content why don't he confront me instead of telling my sponsor?
i think he'll be taking on all comers bare knuckle at Internext.

kenny 06-19-2002 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hyper
well it seems like the sponsor should require proof before taking action

you got that right, topbucks shouldn't be so quick to jump sides

quiet 06-19-2002 05:48 PM

some people play the role of bully better than others....

kenny 06-19-2002 05:52 PM

anyone know the best way to contact topbucks? phone? email that wouldn't take 3 days to get a answer? The main reason why I posted this here is because I know they come here often.
I don't have to much in topbucks, but damn it I didn't make and submit all the galleries for my health

playa 06-19-2002 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenny

Your account has been deactivated due the reasons below.
Thanks~Kristin


Geez,, they actually said Thanks,,,

hyper 06-19-2002 05:56 PM

[email protected]

Contact Allison.. They will get it all straightened out.
She does an extremely good job in taking care of the webmasters

kenny 06-19-2002 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
here's the thread:

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...threadid=57835

This APIC sounds like a fucking idiot, they need a new guy to do that

RAM 06-19-2002 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hyper
well it seems like the sponsor should require proof before taking action

Here is How we deal with it:

1. What image(s) is the claim regarding, including a url, such as http://www.domain.com/imagename.jpg. If all the images on a page are the same single copyright holder, than a page name is sufficient.

2. Who owns the image(s) for which the claim is made.

3. What is the web page that the image(s) appears on with one of our affiliate codes? Such as http://www.domain.com/pagename.htm

Please repeat the above for each copyright holder, please do not combine claims because we cannot identify which image belongs to which copyright holder.



As you can see we need proof before we Nuke a Account.

hyper 06-19-2002 06:13 PM

right thats what you guys went through before..

you asked for proof
and all you got was immature bullshit from apic

Allison 06-19-2002 06:13 PM

Kenny... I just got your email about 5 minutes ago. you can icq me at 120353154 so we can work this out. TopBucks complies with APIC, but we do understand that sometimes the content is correctly licensed and errors can happen. Once we figure this out, I will be happy to reactivate your account.

Thnx

~Alli

kenny 06-19-2002 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RAM



Here is How we deal with it:

1. What image(s) is the claim regarding, including a url, such as http://www.domain.com/imagename.jpg. If all the images on a page are the same single copyright holder, than a page name is sufficient.

2. Who owns the image(s) for which the claim is made.

3. What is the web page that the image(s) appears on with one of our affiliate codes? Such as http://www.domain.com/pagename.htm

Please repeat the above for each copyright holder, please do not combine claims because we cannot identify which image belongs to which copyright holder.



As you can see we need proof before we Nuke a Account.

Thats how these types of matters should be dealt with:thumbsup

Instead of trashing someones account, on what one person says,
hell that means if I don't like someone I can get their account trashed with ease

Wizzo 06-19-2002 06:19 PM

Yea, Allison or any other sponsors working APIC, should take a look at some type of policy, because APIC does make a large number of mistakes...So, requiring proof shouldn't be that big of deal and it would protect those who are trying to make a honest living.

Gary 06-19-2002 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Allison
Kenny... I just got your email about 5 minutes ago. you can icq me at 120353154 so we can work this out. TopBucks complies with APIC, but we do understand that sometimes the content is correctly licensed and errors can happen. Once we figure this out, I will be happy to reactivate your account.

Thnx

~Alli

So APIC says jump, and you jump. Nice.

cosis 06-19-2002 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary


So APIC says jump, and you jump. Nice.

:1orglaugh

Lensman 06-19-2002 06:31 PM

Ram didn't mention that we give the webmaster a notice and demand for proof or removal before terminating him.

kenny 06-19-2002 06:37 PM

She is going to fix it, but they do need a better policy reguarding these matters especially if the word is coming from somebody that is known to make many mistakes

cosis 06-19-2002 06:39 PM

this demonstrates APIC's uselessness

hyper 06-19-2002 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary


So APIC says jump, and you jump. Nice.

ahh thats not nice.. there are plenty of people that work there.

Mistakes do happen. with every company
Whether its CTC not working,
servers crashing,
somebody not demanding proof the content is licensed before terminating an account.

it can all get worked out

Let me tell you my Topbucks story.

They moved servers or something and the scripts were clashing.
Signups were disappearing others were showing up.

When the problem was fixed.
Topbucks not only paid me for the signups that i had,
they also paid me for the signups that were falsely generated

zubr 06-19-2002 06:40 PM

Buy your content - thats the answer....

Licensing content became essential.... They'll do anything not to pay you :)

Fletch XXX 06-19-2002 06:40 PM

Most of the time APIC is straight up full of bullshit.

I have never seen such illiterate claims in my life, they attack so many webmasters illegally, I would like to see some actions taken against them.

Its bullshit. and the way companies are afraid of them is even more silly.

Seriously, you guys should watch this shit more, APIC is emailing people regarding pics they have no idea who owns and claiming the pics are not licensed and shit, very sneaky tactics, not to mention, the last few cases I have been told about, have ALL BEEN MADE IN ERROR.

This one being like the 4th now in the past couple months.

Does APIC even check out who owns the pics?

They emailed TOPBUCKS? For what? because they are scavenging for Topbucks affiliate links to report you? Did they not contact your host? Or is it some assdawg making 6 bucks an hour digging through gallery after gallery digging up affiliate links?

Emailing the host could be a better move, anytime someone has beef they email the host, the host issues an email of compliance or cease n desist, but these guys attack you on affiliate links? Unprofessional, and ridiculous to say the least.

APIC if you are reading this, eat a big dick ya pussy. You and your silly org, you dont fight for the artist, or copyrights, you eliminate one right to save another, it doesnt work that way.

Show some fucking backbone, these APIC pussies bully whoever they want, email whoever they want, and everyone simply believes what they say and accept it. Fuck that.

APIC, where were you when someone stole my paysite designs or when someone ripped off 3 of my AVS? or snagged my nice new blinking gifs from a recent gallery and used them on their own?

hmmm thats not worth your time huh? Go dig through galleries you fucking parasite.

APIC is a fucking joke, I wouldnt comply with shit until my attorney looked over their claims, and honestly, I would attack them on all fronts with full force had they or if they ever, interrupt my funds flow. Or traffic in ANY WAY. Let alone contact a sponsor and have my account nuked.

This shit should make everyone who buys content nervous.

You are telling me some guy can buy nice content, use that content (obviously better than the shit sponsors provide you) to promote TOPBUCKS sites, and Topbucks has the nerve to believe APICs word before even contacting the affiliate, who is spending hard earned money to promote their sites? Topbucks you are biting the hand that feeds.

I consider APIC like an asshole with a "No Fur" sign walking in a Leather Outlet store.Out of place, and needs to be put out of their misery.

Fucking losers.

Fuck APIC.

Allison 06-19-2002 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary


So APIC says jump, and you jump. Nice.

From experience, most times APIC contacts us, the webmaster is using stolen content. APIC can be wrong, but with the system we have here at TopBucks we can easily work it out when they are wrong. We are able to deactivate accounts temporarily without losing any info or sales data for the webmaster.


Our policy here at TopBucks is to deactivate the account, contact the webmaster and ask them to either remove the images or provide license information. Once they do that we do reactivate their accounts.

The support message from kristin to kenny seemed a bit unclear about this policy and may have been due to the fact that kristin is new to TopBucks. I do apologize Kenny if that message seemed a bit harsh. It seems like now (after icq contact) we have worked this all out and everything is okay.

If anyone else has questions please feel free to get in touch

~Alli

quiet 06-19-2002 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zubr
Buy your content - thats the answer....

Licensing content became essential.... They'll do anything not to pay you :)

hmm, did you happen to read the thread?

Ludedude 06-19-2002 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
Ram didn't mention that we give the webmaster a notice and demand for proof or removal before terminating him.
As well you fucking should. Due process and innocent until proven guilty yada yada yada. Yes, I know this isn't court but really sponsors shouldn't be so quick to throw their webmasters under a bus on the say-so of some pompous self-serving asshole.

I remember how you guys dealt with this thing a few months ago. TopBucks and others could learn a thing or two.

cosis 06-19-2002 06:46 PM

Top bucks should consider changing their policy and deleting any emails from APIC so they aren't humilated again

Allison 06-19-2002 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cosis
Top bucks should consider changing their policy and deleting any emails from APIC so they aren't humilated again
I don't think our policy is harsh at all. We give webmasters the opportunity to work this out and again it is a temporary deactivation which is easily undone on our end when the webmaster makes an effort to work this out with us and/or APIC

~Alli

CDSmith 06-19-2002 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Allison
I don't think our policy is harsh at all. We give webmasters the opportunity to work this out and again it is a temporary deactivation which is easily undone on our end when the webmaster makes an effort to work this out with us and/or APIC

~Alli

Allison, just a thought here.... why not work it out with the webmaster <i>FIRST</i> and THEN deactivate if the webmaster is <u>proven</u> to be in error? (Like Lensman does)


Again, just a thought.

payrollpete 06-19-2002 07:50 PM

allison,

you should be demanding proof before deactivating anything, who knows how hard the guy has been tryin to generate traffic to slang to you or whatever

you know what i mean?

it's all good, top bucks is top notch, but, you really shouldn't jump when others tell you to

payrollpete 06-19-2002 07:50 PM

cdsmith

you beat me to it dude :)

cherrylula 06-19-2002 07:50 PM

What is the origin of APIC?

Somebody obviously got pissed off enough and got ripped off several times, and felt the need to start something like this.

I'm not saying its a bad thing, but just as MADD was started, I am sure APIC has a reason for its being.

Who is behind APIC???

What we need is some motherfucking cyber bounty hunters to get rid of worthless, theiving webmasters.

~~oh wait~~ now I see~~

Membership dues? They want membership dues to join their association? Is this a UNION?

Yet another brilliant marketing ploy.


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