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Dirty F 08-20-2006 07:21 PM

Legal highs: Kanna (Sceletium Tortuosum)
 
Anybody tried this plant?

You can either snort it, chew it or what personally works best for me make tea from it.

It's legal to buy, you can even find it on Ebay.

You need little of it to feel the effects and the tea actually tastes pretty good.

It gives a mellow high and makes you feel warm and comfortable. A bigger dosage can give mild hallucinations although i haven tried that myself.

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Official description:

Sceletium, also known as Kanna, is used as a psychedelic by the Hottentots of South Africa. It is sniffed, smoked or used as tea. The Dutch who arrived in South Africa called it kaugoed, which means ´chewing substance´.

Effects
Sceletium tortuosum enhances mood and a sense of connection, while relieving anxious feelings. In higher dosages it can cause euphoria, initially with stimulation and later with relaxation.

Usage
Sceletium can be used as snuff, 20 mg is sufficient to produce a substantial effect. You can also chew it with a piece of gum. Traditionally it was smoked. The combination with cannabis or alcohol produces interesting effects. Futher you can make tea of it, or extract the active compound with alcohol.
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Its very cheap and you need very little of it to notice the effects. Although the effects might not be noticable at all for some people it seems. It's also a matter of getting used to it. It's not like a lot of drugs where you need more and more of it to get the same effect. Once youve drank it a few times your body recognizes it and you will notice the effects quite quick.

Recommended for those who dont want to smoke weed or dont do drugs at all but do want to try something that will make them feel good. Something safe and legal which wont fuck you up. :thumbsup

amanda420 08-20-2006 07:23 PM

I've never tried that, but it sounds pretty cool. I might have to get some. I just drank some kratom tea a little while ago and it's got me feelin' pretty good. It's very very similar to morphine.

And a tip for legal highs, don't get them on ebay because the quality is shit!

Dirty F 08-20-2006 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amanda420
I've never tried that, but it sounds pretty cool. I might have to get some. I just drank some kratom tea a little while ago and it's got me feelin' pretty good. It's very very similar to morphine.

And a tip for legal highs, don't get them on ebay because the quality is shit!


I almost ordered some Kratom but read some really fucked up things about it. People getting sick from it and throwing up.

amanda420 08-20-2006 07:24 PM

Also, just cuz they're legal doesn't mean they're completely safe or nonaddictive. There's legal shit that will definitely fuck you up!

Dirty F 08-20-2006 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by amanda420
Also, just cuz they're legal doesn't mean they're completely safe or nonaddictive. There's legal shit that will definitely fuck you up!

Ofcourse...but in this case its nothing to worry about. Some of the most potent drugs are legal (Salvia and Datura).

amanda420 08-20-2006 07:26 PM

It's never made me sick. Just a little bit of nausea but that's normal with opiates. If you do too much I'm sure it would make you sick though.

phypon 08-20-2006 07:27 PM

There is always Salvia. That's fucked up shit.

amanda420 08-20-2006 07:27 PM

Man I tried salvia, that stuff is crazy. It's one of the few drugs that's actually scared me. I don't like it.

Dirty F 08-20-2006 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amanda420
It's never made me sick. Just a little bit of nausea but that's normal with opiates. If you do too much I'm sure it would make you sick though.


I might try it. I can buy all this stuff at the wholesale so i pay 1/3 of the price you see in the online shops.

phypon 08-20-2006 07:28 PM

I'd like to add not to do it alone. I recently found out that you can actually "sleep walk" on it. Even though it is a short trip, you don't want to walk out into a busy street.

phypon 08-20-2006 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amanda420
Man I tried salvia, that stuff is crazy. It's one of the few drugs that's actually scared me. I don't like it.


Yeah. It's weird. I don't hate it, but I'm not sure if I like it. It does give me a scary feeling and while on it I want to not be on it anymore. Know what I mean.

Dirty F 08-20-2006 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amanda420
Man I tried salvia, that stuff is crazy. It's one of the few drugs that's actually scared me. I don't like it.


Well, oddly enough it didnt do much for me. Like some people dont notice anything from using Kanna. I tried enough Salvia for a whole family and besides a few weird hallucinations in my head for 2 mins it didnt notice much. I felt there was something and it can def. mess you up but it just wouldnt come out.

Im gonna try it again for sure.

Dirty F 08-20-2006 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phypon
I'd like to add not to do it alone. I recently found out that you can actually "sleep walk" on it. Even though it is a short trip, you don't want to walk out into a busy street.

Yeah if you have real potent Salvia you can move and walk without realizing it.

phypon 08-20-2006 07:32 PM

Frank,

If you try it again don't try to take more than you did the first time. It can take a time or two to feel the effects. You may go into it thinking that you need to take a shit load, but you don't. Just wanted to give you a heads up.

Dirty F 08-20-2006 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phypon
Frank,

If you try it again don't try to take more than you did the first time. It can take a time or two to feel the effects. You may go into it thinking that you need to take a shit load, but you don't. Just wanted to give you a heads up.

yes, im aware of that. Thanks anyway.

amanda420 08-20-2006 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
Well, oddly enough it didnt do much for me. Like some people dont notice anything from using Kanna. I tried enough Salvia for a whole family and besides a few weird hallucinations in my head for 2 mins it didnt notice much. I felt there was something and it can def. mess you up but it just wouldnt come out.

Im gonna try it again for sure.

Smoke it out of a bong and use a torch lighter. Also try the 15x instead of just regular leaf. I've read there's a reverse tolerance, so it can take a few times of using it to get the effects.

phypon 08-20-2006 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
Yeah if you have real potent Salvia you can move and walk without realizing it.


That happend to me last time. I had no idea that was possible given that when I've done it I feel paralized. When I came to I was in the same exact spot I had began with but the door was open and someone saw me walking around the kitchen. I that feeling that I need to get out of the trip. I guess I was trying to get out of the house thinking that would end it. Luckily I didn't.

Well, now I know better. :thumbsup

tony286 08-20-2006 07:37 PM

wouldnt pay with those things

Dirty F 08-20-2006 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404
wouldnt pay with those things


No you usually cant pay with those things. Maybe a junkie would take it instead of money though. Not sure.

phypon 08-20-2006 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
No you usually cant pay with those things. Maybe a junkie would take it instead of money though. Not sure.


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

sorry tony, but that was funny

Dirty F 08-21-2006 07:25 AM

Bump for today :)

godisdead 08-21-2006 07:36 AM

Wow! Some of you guys are really taking some tough shit! I've only read about that and I have a friend who went crazy on that stuff, I don't take it. Nothing.

Dirty F 08-21-2006 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by godisdead
Wow! Some of you guys are really taking some tough shit! I've only read about that and I have a friend who went crazy on that stuff, I don't take it. Nothing.


You also dont drink alcohol?

godisdead 08-21-2006 08:06 AM

That I do. There I know the effects. Also tried weed once and got high, which was cool.

But I don't really drink lots of alcohol. And ever since my friend went to the loony bin I stay away from doing drugs hard. Not that I ever had any intentions to do so. But even if I had, having seen what happened to him was enough of a cure.

SmokeyTheBear 08-21-2006 08:24 AM

heard salvia mentioned a few times in this thread.. dont do it kiddo's its bad news.. its not safe.. stick with things that you cant overdose on and cant change you forever..

i..e no cocaine no opiates no salvia

salvia will get you high and you may have 100 fine trips , but because its a plant not a pill you can NEVER tell how much active ingredient is in it.. There may be one plant that is 100 times more powerfull than another plant , and that will be the last salvia you ever take ..

A common and witnessed theme of overdoses on hallucinogens is you do exctly what you wouldnt want to do.. like whatever you think would be the worst most embaressing thing you could do is exactly what you will do..

SmokeyTheBear 08-21-2006 08:27 AM

some things that are fun to try and you wont overdose on...

Weed
Mushrooms ( not all kinds are safe but certain kinds you cant overdose on because you cant ingest the fast enough to harm you )
Peyote
Life ( possible overdose possible )

Dirty F 08-21-2006 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
heard salvia mentioned a few times in this thread.. dont do it kiddo's its bad news.. its not safe.. stick with things that you cant overdose on and cant change you forever..

i..e no cocaine no opiates no salvia

salvia will get you high and you may have 100 fine trips , but because its a plant not a pill you can NEVER tell how much active ingredient is in it.. There may be one plant that is 100 times more powerfull than another plant , and that will be the last salvia you ever take ..

A common and witnessed theme of overdoses on hallucinogens is you do exctly what you wouldnt want to do.. like whatever you think would be the worst most embaressing thing you could do is exactly what you will do..


Thats why you buy it in extracts. Its perfectly safe. I dont think anybody ever died of Salvia. Actually im sure.

Farang 08-21-2006 09:09 AM

ordered some 60x Salvia extract, will see how it goes :upsidedow

Dirty F 08-21-2006 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AAK
ordered some 60x Salvia extract, will see how it goes :upsidedow


Man, thats crazy and a waste of money. You will just pass out and wake up and dont remember anything.

Farang 08-21-2006 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
Man, thats crazy and a waste of money. You will just pass out and wake up and dont remember anything.

shit :disgust

okay, look what I found

Quote:

Soma Spliff Pre-Rolled Joint
These Soma Spliffs have a unique effect due to the mix of Fly Agaric Caps and Salvia.

First the Salvia hits you, then as that effect begins to wane the Fly Agaric kicks in and users will experience sharp visual colours and altered perceptions as a light visual trip eventually leaves you feeling stoned and content.

There are three pre-rolled Soma Spliffs in each pack, which contain the unique blend of Salvia, Fly Agaric Caps, and a very, very potent Fly Agaric extract.

Ingredients:
Fly Agaric Caps
Salvia Divinorum
Fly Agaric Extract
Citrus Fruit Oil Flavouring
sounds good, isn't it? :pimp

MetaMan 08-21-2006 09:23 AM

and you are against weed? you are a joke! :1orglaugh

Dirty F 08-21-2006 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan
and you are against weed? you are a joke! :1orglaugh


What the fuck are you talking about retard? Please quote me where i say im against weed.

MetaMan 08-21-2006 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
I hate weed and i think all potheads are stupid, and i like big black dick in my ass.


there you go. :1orglaugh

Dirty F 08-21-2006 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AAK
shit :disgust

okay, look what I found


sounds good, isn't it? :pimp

Well, thats something different than just Salvia. I have no experience with those things. Sounds good though :thumbsup

Dirty F 08-21-2006 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan
there you go. :1orglaugh


How pathetic. You try to make me look bad but in your excitement you didnt read correctly and now you make things up to not look too stupid. Well guess what it makes you look even more stupid. How old are you again?

MetaMan 08-21-2006 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
How pathetic. You try to make me look bad but in your excitement you didnt read correctly and now you make things up to not look too stupid. Well guess what it makes you look even more stupid. How old are you again?


look there have been numerous threads where you whine and whine about weed, i am to lazy to go look for them, i have better things to do like mis quote you.

Dirty F 08-21-2006 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan
look there have been numerous threads where you whine and whine about weed, i am to lazy to go look for them, i have better things to do like mis quote you.


You have nothing better to do pathetic punk. You tried to make me look bad and you failed and instead looked like a retard yourself.

I dont whine about weed. I simply argued with people who have all these weird ideas about weed and how its not harmful for you etc.

I guess you read that wrong as well. Reading seems to be quite hard for you. Fucking retard. Now fuck off since you have better things to do right?

MetaMan 08-21-2006 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
You have nothing better to do pathetic punk. You tried to make me look bad and you failed and instead looked like a retard yourself.

I dont whine about weed. I simply argued with people who have all these weird ideas about weed and how its not harmful for you etc.

I guess you read that wrong as well. Reading seems to be quite hard for you. Fucking retard. Now fuck off since you have better things to do right?

ok so let me get this straight you think weed is harmful (yes in some ways it is) you say all these "stoners" cant think because they smoked up all their braincells.

yet you are asking about a drug that is probly 5x worse?

i just do not get you.

Dirty F 08-21-2006 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan

yet you are asking about a drug that is probly 5x worse?

Get your facts right and then come back. If you have something real to argue about i will respond to you on topic. Now youre just trying (and failing) to make me look bad :1orglaugh

Once again, fuck off retard. You lose.

Try again in another topic. Maybe things will be better for you then.

MetaMan 08-21-2006 09:45 AM

o sorry Battass, you called them "stupid potheads" not "retards", MY BAD, you are fucking funny! :1orglaugh


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