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scottybuzz 07-28-2006 08:05 AM

english people help me out with 2257
 
Help please guys what does it mean for an average joe like me

I promote american sites, I use american hosting. wtf do i need to do?

scottybuzz 07-28-2006 08:05 AM

I already have a text link to the 2257 info that the my sponer holds but with the new rules what does it mean?

xanx 07-28-2006 08:08 AM

sell all your sites, donate all your money to charity, and maybe, just maybe the Bush machine will let you slide

TheSwed 07-28-2006 08:11 AM

just move to a host outside U.S, then you can sleep well :thumbsup

Gawdy 07-28-2006 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottybuzz
Help please guys what does it mean for an average joe like me

I promote american sites, I use american hosting. wtf do i need to do?

Do you anticipate the US cops, comming over to England then and checking to see if you have the correct documentation? Unless they do and get a warrant, how will they know your not compliant.

If they do come over, get a search warrant for a law that isnt even a British law and infact against the EU laws of privacy, they then check your record keeping, do you anticipate that they will get an extradition order?

Is it only American laws you want to comply with, or do you plan to comply with laws in every other country in the world?

:helpme

Kimo 07-28-2006 08:14 AM

change your hosting and dns info to say george w bush

stickyfingerz 07-28-2006 08:28 AM

The best thing to do is take a bath in acid. This will insulate you from the sky falling. :2 cents:

Kimo 07-28-2006 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
The best thing to do is take a bath in acid. This will insulate you from the sky falling. :2 cents:


o shit.........

s9ann0 07-28-2006 08:41 AM

i wouldn't do anything jsut wait if they do start shitting on people move your servers to canada or Amsterdam and make more $$$'s than ever!

Dirty Dane 07-28-2006 09:03 AM

They will invade Britain and place all webmasters at Guantanamo, because sexual pretadors are the same as terrorists now.

No, follow your own laws and comply the policy of those companies you use in you business portfolio. :thumbsup

Zester 07-28-2006 09:19 AM

did something new happned lately with this 2257 shit? I see a lot of threads but no info

tony286 07-28-2006 09:21 AM

if you live in the uk even though your promoting us sites.You really dont have to worry, they are not going to send the FBI all the way to the UK to examine your records.

fitzmulti 07-28-2006 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zester
did something new happned lately with this 2257 shit? I see a lot of threads but no info

WHEW! Talk about a head buried in the sand....
Sorry, but, "whew"!

gooddomains 07-28-2006 09:33 AM

I would be very cautios, the US just arrested the CEO of a british stock exchange noted company when he entered the US. Be prepared to never visit the US if you don't follow their laws.

gooddomains 07-28-2006 10:52 AM

violate US laws and get arrested when visiting the US

media 07-28-2006 10:56 AM

Consult your local GFY lawyer.. always the brightest advice...

KrisKross 07-28-2006 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gooddomains
I would be very cautios, the US just arrested the CEO of a british stock exchange noted company when he entered the US. Be prepared to never visit the US if you don't follow their laws.

Uh... there's a huge difference between the CEO of one of the largest online gambling companies and Joe Schmo webmaster who run a 10K TGP from mommy's basement in the UK.

Dirty Dane 07-28-2006 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisKross
Uh... there's a huge difference between the CEO of one of the largest online gambling companies and Joe Schmo webmaster who run a 10K TGP from mommy's basement in the UK.

http://fbi.gov/mostwantedforeign2257violators/

gooddomains 07-28-2006 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisKross
Uh... there's a huge difference between the CEO of one of the largest online gambling companies and Joe Schmo webmaster who run a 10K TGP from mommy's basement in the UK.

once you get arrested it makes no difference

scottybuzz 07-28-2006 11:27 AM

guys you may well joke about this shit, but if an englishman breaks an american law. by english law the americans are allowed to come in and arrest us and then stand in a u.s. court of law. they do infact have juristiction in the uk.

it however does not hold the other way round which some say is unfair, but lets not bullshit about politics.

I hear what you all say though and I will move hosting after I use up my free months.

but I absolutley find it totally BOLLOCKS that there are scum out there that do promote child porn and these rules are being brought in coz of them, they are absolute fucking scum, and they are just not ruining children. FUCK THEM. I am usually neutral towards crime but these sick fuckers are affecting a huge industry. sorry for the rant.

Yngwie 07-28-2006 11:29 AM

welcome to the free world... LOL

he-fox 07-28-2006 11:29 AM

Run for your life!!!!

scottybuzz 07-28-2006 11:31 AM

edit- or maybe these rules are part of a larger initiative, i think mr soul said something about internet2 - the plan to make the internet like tv and no small timers involved. could be,,, could be slowly but surely

joshll 07-28-2006 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
The best thing to do is take a bath in acid. This will insulate you from the sky falling. :2 cents:

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :pimp

pornguy 07-28-2006 11:38 AM

If you host in the US, then yes legally you do have to worry.

Gawdy 07-28-2006 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gooddomains
violate US laws and get arrested when visiting the US


How would they know you are not complying you idiot

Gawdy 07-28-2006 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottybuzz
guys you may well joke about this shit, but if an englishman breaks an american law. by english law the americans are allowed to come in and arrest us and then stand in a u.s. court of law. they do infact have juristiction in the uk.

it however does not hold the other way round which some say is unfair, but lets not bullshit about politics.

I hear what you all say though and I will move hosting after I use up my free months.

but I absolutley find it totally BOLLOCKS that there are scum out there that do promote child porn and these rules are being brought in coz of them, they are absolute fucking scum, and they are just not ruining children. FUCK THEM. I am usually neutral towards crime but these sick fuckers are affecting a huge industry. sorry for the rant.

Your to stupid to run a website you should give up. Im not joking thats serious. How on earth would they know you are not keeping the records how they want and what makes you think any UK court would give them access to look when the law is against EU laws.

Less posting more learning

scottybuzz 07-28-2006 12:50 PM

I just worry about the influence america has on the world especially on england. tony blairs nose is seriously brown at the moment.

and dont listen to what goodomains has to say...


hes an idiot :)

Gawdy 07-28-2006 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottybuzz
I just worry about the influence america has on the world especially on england. tony blairs nose is seriously brown at the moment.

and dont listen to what goodomains has to say...


hes an idiot :)

So you think the US police are going to try and inforce an American law that is against EU laws, in England and come to you place of business in the UK and try and make sure you are keeping docs in the way they want?

Seriously get a grip. If you are worried in any way, put up a 2257 page showing your address in England and let them send some police men.

:helpme

Gawdy 07-28-2006 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gooddomains
once you get arrested it makes no difference

Arrested for what? Not keeping docs in the way they want? How would they know? Unless they invade the UK

Im glad of 2257, might stop some of you idiots working online. Get a clue, seriously :2 cents:

messiah1 07-28-2006 01:56 PM

And still there is no answer to weather or not the Fbi are just going after content producers and or affiliates (average Joe) that advertises that content?????????????????.
:helpme

Lee 07-28-2006 02:13 PM

Scottybuzz, our laws have to take precedence and the data protection act which was revised to include data stored electronically would prohibit you ever divulging that info. If the FBI ever in their wisdom decided to send a taskforce over to East Anglia to check out your info they would need to go through the courts etc. Most unlikely.

frank7799 07-28-2006 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gawdy
(...)
Is it only American laws you want to comply with, or do you plan to comply with laws in every other country in the world?

:helpme

I think Iran has pretty cool laws for porn...:winkwink:

scottybuzz 07-28-2006 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee
Scottybuzz, our laws have to take precedence and the data protection act which was revised to include data stored electronically would prohibit you ever divulging that info. If the FBI ever in their wisdom decided to send a taskforce over to East Anglia to check out your info they would need to go through the courts etc. Most unlikely.

thanks lee

also thanks gawdy

Webby 07-28-2006 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee
Scottybuzz, our laws have to take precedence and the data protection act which was revised to include data stored electronically would prohibit you ever divulging that info.

Correct :thumbsup

KRL 07-28-2006 10:51 PM

http://www.xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=16231

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Webby 07-28-2006 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottybuzz
Help please guys what does it mean for an average joe like me

I promote american sites, I use american hosting. wtf do i need to do?

BTW... I'd move hosting out of the US. If you are not complying with US laws - that's kinda reasonable.

Other than that - fire ahead Scotty and earn.

Spunky 07-28-2006 10:57 PM

Blame Canada

Webby 07-28-2006 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunky
Blame Canada


You started all the bullshit didn't you Spunky? Damned Canadians with religous agendas :winkwink:

:drinkup

scottybuzz 07-30-2006 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby
BTW... I'd move hosting out of the US. If you are not complying with US laws - that's kinda reasonable.

Other than that - fire ahead Scotty and earn.

yeh im not here to piss of america on purpose. hell if it takes me half an hour to be 2257 responsilbe why the hell not. even if im not american, but getting all the paperwork sorted out? not a fucking chance. does anyone know if webair hosts abroad in europe, i think they do. but can someone confirm it


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