Vietnam V USA
 

Can it please be noted for those who only watch films that Vietnam kicked the shit out of the USA.
I will be posting pictures of dead USA troops from the Vietnam V USA war later.

The USA thinks it has won against Iraq. Check www.ogrish.com

The US military never lost a single battle in Vietnam and the kill ratio was several million dead Vietnamese and close to sixty thousand dead Americans. If you call that kicking the "shit" out of the USA so be it.

Its called

USA vs North Vietnam
USA vs Saddam regime

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Yeah right, and u do believe that the stats US give to u r correct, hahahaha u make me laugh. USA was totally OWNED.

US and coalition forces defeated the Iraq military and took down the government in three weeks, I would call that a win. Of course the mission in Iraq has not yet been completed in totality.

Please educate me and provide me with the "true" stats.

Yet they never occupied or liberated Vietnam... Mission wasn't completed... So they didn't win the war...

Iraq is another Vietnam. They have not stopped. All that will happen is US troops will keep coming home in body bags.

Dude, really.

It's easy to assume that ANY government lies, there r too many things questionable about them, and the US Gov is the worst of all. Can u REALLY explain to me how come BUsh is president, it looked like a pretty good scam to me... well, if u DO believe everything your government says to you I fell sorry for u, really.
I do envy your patriotism at some points, but now americans patriotism only borders stupidity for all that I know.

FACT: There is a 25-year-old kid in an American Military uniform as we speak. This kid is sitting in front of a button with launch codes to something powerful enough to erase the existence of the city that RelishX is posting from. The city can be erased without anyone even seeing a piece of US military equipment. There is a US submarine right now carrying more payload than the total of all bombs exploded in the history of the world.

But, this guy needs to post pictures of dead US soldiers in an effort to make himself think the US military is weak. It helps him sleep at night, because it would hurt moral if his country was actually told how superior the US military is to anyone that is an extreme far 2nd place.

Maybe you should make post about the detriment of political correctness during war time.

http://www.casahistoria.net/vcfemalesoldier.jpg

Ladies like this destroyed the US.

The US never had any intention of occupying North Vietnam, nor did they ever attemp to do so. The US did not accomplish what they desired to accomplish which was the stablization of an independant South Vietnam, so no they did not win. They also did not lose the war as they withdrew from the war in 1973 and turned the war over to the South Vietnamese military and the South Vietnamese military was defeated two years later in 1975.

I don't think any of those examples would go well with the UN...

Just as I suspected, you are unable to provide the "true" stats, so I will just have to have confidence in the available stats. OK?

Want to see some pictures of US soldiers begging for their lives before being executed?

http://www.rjgeib.com/thoughts/fonda/vietnam.jpg

Americans seem to come home in coffins quite alot.

Ok, u can be a gullible voter for all I care, and live happily ever after in your hypocrite country. I don't mind, as long as u r happy being lied too. :)

errr?
s'cuse me: adult webmaster board here?
if i am wrong, i have a couple of other nice topics for absolutely useless, time & energy wasting discussions. how about: windows vs. apple, slow vs. fast, watermelon flavoured chewing gum vs. marshmellows (the white ones). need more, just ask me.

sorry for this being my first message on this otherwise really good board.

gb

Present some evidence that I have been lied to and maybe I won't be so happy.

In answer to your question, I think not.

2 words: Michael Moore.

I love Brasil. Brasil is a country that is not lied to.

Thanks for dying for Iraq and spilling your blood amerikans http://i2.tinypic.com/1zpnwa1.gif
Without your help, we could have never realized just how delicious a hamburger from Mcdonalds could taste, or a refreshing, how do you say, Soda Pop. I, Mohammed Achmed, wish your soul to be taken care of in the afterlife with 72 virgins and the entire collection of Celine Dion?s Greatest hits volumes 01-07.

Of course you are joking. I like Michael Moore. I have seen all of his mockumentries and enjoyed his TV program. He is a very good satirist.

To tell u the truth, we r lied to, A LOT actually...we just ain't stupid enough to believe it...well some of us at least, hehe.

Satirist?
I guess the funny ones r the government, and no I am not Joking...I guess Stupid White Men is a good start or u....books r always better than movies.

Go fuck yourself faggot :321GFY

Okay not ALWAYS, sometimes, u bitch.:321GFY

Relish,

I was in Nam in 65. I was with the 7th Cav, Custer's old outfit. Too bad you can't sit across the table from me and repeat your original statement. Please, before showing your stupidity, study up a bit. Vietnam wasn't a war as much as it was a cluster of battles. You, however, wouldn't know that, being as green as you are. You bitch and moan about casualities but have you ever gutted someone with a bayonet? Or pulled their eyes out so they couldn't shoot you? Plus, you can't stay on track. First, the subject was Nam, then Iraq and then the government. Please get your contexts in order. That's some of the stuff you missed when you didn't go to school.

No I havent ever gutted anyone and I thank god I am part of a country that isnt stupid enough to get me into that situatiom.

Now just remember the USA lost in Vietnam.

You haven't got the international balls to sit at a table of VN vets and make that last statement.

When the "gutting" took place, there wasn't one thought of democracy, politics, nothing, except, survival. You've evidently never faced that facet of life. Lucky fucking cotton-protected, silver-spoon sucking you.

I don't hide behind the generic term "war." I've been in more than my share of "battles." Ever see "We Were Soldiers" with Mel Gibson? It's the most accurate, most correct movie ever to exit Hollywierd. How would I know that fact? Yeah, how would I? How COULD I?

On that November day, we put 160 men on the ground and faced over 2000+ fresh NVA troops. Guess who won? This happened over and over, through out the conflict, yet pee-greens like you can only settle on the final outcome. You have absolutely NO concept! Lost the war? Yes, the politicians sure did. Lose the battles? Extremely rarely.

And your claim to fame? Besides, talking, that is?

All I saw when reading this post was: ?I am a heartless war-mongering baby killer?. Hope you enjoyed killing all those kids. You will have to pay for your sins to your respective god one day friend. Don't you and your republican war buddies have a few more pointless wars to start for "democracy" and "freedom"?

I have spent some time in Vietnam and it is called the American War to them. They kicked our asses, one booby trap at a time. They won because they were fighting for something they believed in. We lost because we were just fighting.

The United States will eventually lose in Iraq. We are losing now I believe based on information I get from guys I know who have been there. We may lose some battles, but will lose the war.

You can not win a war against people who have a cause or have nothing to lose. You can also not win a war against an IDEA such as "terrorism" because that idea changes, evolves and can not be painted into a corner. Every attack against Muslim extremist will breed more Muslim extremists. Again... we will lose this war, even if we win some battles.

We Were Soldiers is complete fucking joke, probably made by the Bush administration to boost morale. This absurdly patriotic film is sickening. Obviously the creators of this film haven't read much of the bible (the whole part where you are to forgive your enemies and so forth). Mel Gibson's character is constantly talking about God, however he doesn't seem to realise that if you kill people for a living you aren't a good Christian!

Lt. Col. Hal Moore's (Mel Gibson) speaches were syrupy sweet melodramatic drivel. In fact, much of the dialogue is the same way. This film had none of the reality Platoon had, which is the most comprehensive Vietnam War movie. I've heard many Nam Vets say this.

Regardless of its inherent historical authenticity, this is bar-none one of the WORST war films I've ever seen. Sure, Ia Drang happened. Yep, it happened like this, and ya, the guys all wore these uniforms. And that's where it ends.
Everything else about this movie is hokey, flag-waving, crass Americanism at it's burger-munching worst! Mel Gibson, strutting about John Wayne style through artillery barrages - puhlease! And let's not forget neophyte "lifer" sidekick wannabee officer who eats it heroically - barfbag please... And finally, how about those syrupy-sweet, and likewise sickly simpering war-wives left back home. Never have I been subjected to such a barrage of base emotional manipulation. Indeed, I found myself wishing all these Yanks would die! What a putrid piece of garbage filled from top to bottom with every dead war movie cliche in the hollywood dust bin. Don't waste a nickel on this pure, unadulterated tripe. Of course, if you buy into the lies of American war "heroism" you'll love this. Die for oil, sucker!

War sucks.
And what Notabook (as much as I hate to admity it) said, is kinda right.
I understand that Survival is key at war, and that you HAVE to kill people or you will die, and no one wants to die. But I do believe it was a pointless war, and the government kept sending people there to die.
And yes I believe USA lost, at the end. or they would still be there.

look, i currently hate the us government administration, and im against the war in iraq, but fuck YOU. if you think any country can kick our ass i DARE them to bring it on US soil. we are a country with enough privately owned firearms for every living person in our country to have two! keep in mind those are legal firearms, i personally know a ton of people with illegal firearms so when you add those to the mix unless you nuke us you cant fucking touch us

in the words of rick james "fuck yo couch!"

:1orglaugh HAhahahaha, it's funny how some of you are PROUD about the number of firearms you have, really. Hahahaha.

Well, after all, they are a peacefull loving nation , with a mission to spread the democracy around the world ( read: oil world ) ....

USA RULES....hahahaha...well we would if we got rid of Bush