Flag Burning amendment dies by single vote
 

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WASHINGTON (AP) -- A constitutional amendment to ban flag desecration died in a Senate cliffhanger Tuesday, a single vote short of the support needed to send it to the states for ratification a week before Independence Day.

The 66-34 tally in favor of the amendment was one less than the two-thirds required. The House surpassed that threshold last year, 286-130.

cnn.com


FREE SPEACH LIVES ON ! ! !

That was fast. I just heard about the proposed amendment this morning.

Quick resolution is so gratifying.

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Party :thumbsup
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"Countless men and women have died defending that flag," said Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tennessee, closing two days of debate. "It is but a small humble act for us to defend it."

No they died defending the CONSTITUTION you asshole!

My grandfather didn't strom the beaches of Normandy on D-Day and watch his friends get their heads blown off and almost get killed by the Nazis himself just so this country can be just like the one he was fighting against.

I'm so glad to hear that this one didn't pass!

what the fuck is wrong with you people? why the fuck would you want it to be legal for some sorry ass motherfucker to burn the symbol of our nation?

Because it is just colored cloth:321GFY

why not?
it does not affect my opinions and that person has the right to express his opinion in whatever mannor excluding physically harming anyone or property.

plus, we can always have a factory make another flag. :2 cents:

why would you want it to be illegal?

that is the most ignorant damn thing i have ever heard

Scary still that they only came up one vote short.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh You dont get out much do you.

because some things deserve to be protected

flag burning rules

And they died to defend us against pricks like the ones in office now. It saddens me that they died for our freedom and now the people that send them off to fight try to take away the very freedoms they died for.

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we must always work to prevent sliding into facistism

Freedom of expression, for starters.

when was the last time you pledged allegiance to the Constitution?

prob the same time he read the bible

what if i wanted to express myself by spray painting all over a wall. is that freedom of expresion? no thats vandalism.

Somethings aren't always meant to be taken so literally. It's what that the flag stands for...FREEDOM :winkwink:

you can't defend freedom of speech only when it's something you agree with. That's the whole point.

Obviously written by someone who hasn't been explained the agenda of the democratic party.

I realize its not black or white, and not everyone is a republican or democrat, but I love to laugh at the democrat supporters who claim republican governments try to take away their freedoms. Have they heard a true democrat propose social systems, healthcare or extreme regulation of private industry?

Thats is like saying I really, really want the goverment to make all the decision for me about where I live, where I work and who treats my kids medical conditions, as long as I have the freedom to symbolically burn the flag from the country who is providing my bread, (every other day).


Kids shouldn't talk politics

Nobody said "republican governments", they said pricks like the ones in office now" lol :)

I find it very clear that you have never been in the military, the flag is a very strong symbol of our nation, it represents what many in the military have given their lives for. If you don't understand this, go to a military base at dusk when you have the chance and watch as the whole base stops in their tracks to salute our flag. Or when there is a military burial, a gun salute and then the shells from the gun salute and the flag from the flag ceremony are given to the widow or windower out of respect for what that soldier gave for his or her country. I lost my stepdad last year, 66 years old, died of cancer, given full military honors, my mother has the flag.
If someoine had a deathwish, they could have protested there, or even tried to burn that flag, and I will tell you straight , they would have never found the bodies.
So if you don't think that the American flag doesn't deserve the respect of her citizens, that's your right! Burn it from of me and your chances of seeing tomorrow are slim at best.
Yes I served in the Navy, on submarines, I'm a bit crazy and I'm proud of my nation, and I question our leaders, but the flag has nothing to do with that.

The first American flag was made out of hemp, so if you need to burn something, go burn some hemp!

True...

and, generally, if caught, you'd be fined a small amount or have to spend 30 hours in the next week cleaning other acts of vandalism in community service.

Likewise, if it was illegal to ignite a fire in a city's limits, maybe a flag-burner would get busted for igniting a fire in a public place, and be fined a small amount... so the physical act of burning something might be a crime, and if so, due punishment should go down...

But burning a flag is an act of expression. If the act of burning _anything_ is a crime, fine... and let the punishment fit the crime... but to limit the scope to a burning a particular item... especially when the act of burning that item is a means of protest or expression... that's censorship, my friend.

And censorship is about as unamerican as it comes.

Amen brother...I am proud of my nation and would fight and die for the continuous freedoms we enjoy

So your OK with the KKK burning a cross?

Powerful it may be, but the flag remains a symbol: the Constitution is far more important if it sadly has to be a choice between the two.

I am not a citizen of the flag. I also dont fall for jingoistic bullshit.

"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel". Samuel Johnson

Doesn't matter if you like it or not. Its freedom of expression and we should never supress that.

And THAT is exactly the problem. Nobody cares about the Constitution anymore.

I am OK with it :thumbsup just another symbol for the sheep to worship.

A cucumber should be well-sliced, dressed with pepper and vinegar, and then thrown out.

Samuel Johnson