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RogerV 06-14-2006 11:17 AM

Why is porn so cheap? we need to raise our prices
 
the price of everything else is going up and Porn is still the same.

hell it cost me $50 a month at my gym, over $100 for my cable I can go on and on. Why is porn still the same price if inflation is going up. every other service has been raising there prices?

Corleone 06-14-2006 11:18 AM

competition :(

Nicky 06-14-2006 11:22 AM

very true, id love to see a 30-40% raise all over the board

BoogieCFZ 06-14-2006 11:24 AM

1) competition
2) so much given away for free.

if there were 3,000,000 free tv stations you'd bet your sweet ass the price of your cable would be cheap as shit.

RogerV 06-14-2006 11:24 AM

We pay alot to shoot our own exclusive content and its not cheap.

How can we make more? every guy needs to wack off we all know that right?

we hold the golden ticket how do we all make more off it.. Just like Gas they keep raising the prices knowing we will pay

nestle 06-14-2006 11:25 AM

Well, at the gym maybe they are getting better equipment and they up the membership fee to balance their cost out. Cable is getting more expensive because you are getting HD, more channels, etc.

There's really nothing new being introduced in the porn industry... as in, content doesn't offer anything new and you can't add in any value to content. In fact, I think there are more and more girls out there that are willing to do shoots for a lot less than what they were used to maybe let's say 5-10 years ago. This is reducing the cost of producing content. Thereby reducing the cost of presenting it.

Bottom line: the porn industry thrives on volume of sales rather than quality of sales. Generally speaking, if you try raising prices, then your volume is going to go down. If you lower prices, your volume is more likely to rise up.

slapass 06-14-2006 11:25 AM

this is so true. Trials should all be at least the cost of a playboy and the monthly could go up the same.

RogerV 06-14-2006 11:27 AM

Just like you need Gas to get to work you need to wake off so you dont get Blue balls..

Maybe we should start censoring the free content now and make them pay for it.. trust me they all will

RogerV 06-14-2006 11:35 AM

so many smart people and no solutions? WTF

PinkElectric 06-14-2006 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV
Maybe we should start censoring the free content now and make them pay for it.. trust me they all will

True !!!!

Webby 06-14-2006 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV
the price of everything else is going up and Porn is still the same.

hell it cost me $50 a month at my gym, over $100 for my cable I can go on and on. Why is porn still the same price if inflation is going up. every other service has been raising there prices?

Agree Roger - Anyone supplying live sex on a PC screen "should" at least qualify for a $50 monthly subscription.

Or.. upsell.. give em the basics for $30 and if they want the "better stuff" - $30 extra for "Gold Membership".

quantum-x 06-14-2006 11:49 AM

If you're doing something exclusive and niche, you can set your prices how you feel. It might take members a little longer to join, but they will join.

Look at the multi tiering options available on some sites :)

Jace 06-14-2006 11:52 AM

My wife has been saying the same thing about our site

She works at a strip club two night a week where guys pay $20 a dance.....we charge $5 more for our site...so for $25 they access to download every video of her fucking on camera she has ever done.....

I personally think we are undercharging also

Jarmusch 06-14-2006 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV
Maybe we should start censoring the free content now and make them pay for it.. trust me they all will

Good luck in your one-man crusade. :thumbsup

Dollarmansteve 06-14-2006 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nestle
Well, at the gym maybe they are getting better equipment and they up the membership fee to balance their cost out. Cable is getting more expensive because you are getting HD, more channels, etc.

There's really nothing new being introduced in the porn industry... as in, content doesn't offer anything new and you can't add in any value to content. In fact, I think there are more and more girls out there that are willing to do shoots for a lot less than what they were used to maybe let's say 5-10 years ago. This is reducing the cost of producing content. Thereby reducing the cost of presenting it.

Bottom line: the porn industry thrives on volume of sales rather than quality of sales. Generally speaking, if you try raising prices, then your volume is going to go down. If you lower prices, your volume is more likely to rise up.

So you think porn is a commodity in a perfectly competitive environment?

Jman 06-14-2006 11:57 AM

You should rally up with GW Bush. I am sure he'll come up with a nice porn taxe to inflate pricing.

He's good at shit like that :Oh crap

CIVMatt 06-14-2006 11:57 AM

Pointless seeing how there is SO much free porn out there now....

Shoehorn! 06-14-2006 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nestle
Well, at the gym maybe they are getting better equipment and they up the membership fee to balance their cost out. Cable is getting more expensive because you are getting HD, more channels, etc.

There's really nothing new being introduced in the porn industry... as in, content doesn't offer anything new and you can't add in any value to content. In fact, I think there are more and more girls out there that are willing to do shoots for a lot less than what they were used to maybe let's say 5-10 years ago. This is reducing the cost of producing content. Thereby reducing the cost of presenting it.

Bottom line: the porn industry thrives on volume of sales rather than quality of sales. Generally speaking, if you try raising prices, then your volume is going to go down. If you lower prices, your volume is more likely to rise up.

Exactly right. Though I'd like to make more money just as much as the next guy, there are a lot more factors involved than just inflation. :thumbsup

Big_Red 06-14-2006 12:02 PM

Ok lets make a movement then. We can set the market. Don't let the consumer do it.

Dollarmansteve 06-14-2006 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CIVMatt
Pointless seeing how there is SO much free porn out there now....

meh.. if free porn were so great no one would pay.. and yet tens of thousands of people pay every single day... day after day after day without fail.. people will ALWAYS pay for value.

tranza 06-14-2006 12:16 PM

What pisses me off is that every day there are new paytises out there chargings $14.95 or $19.95 at the most!

aico 06-14-2006 12:21 PM

Too much free porn, can't raise the prices. We dug our own graves, now we are lying in them.

Gyms charge more cuz they keep up with the newer equipment.

Porn is and has been Photos and Videos, nothing new has come out of here in a long time. If anything it should have gone down in price, not up. :2 cents:

RogerV 06-14-2006 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace
My wife has been saying the same thing about our site

She works at a strip club two night a week where guys pay $20 a dance.....we charge $5 more for our site...so for $25 they access to download every video of her fucking on camera she has ever done.....

I personally think we are undercharging also


exactly guys have the money you just have to tease them but they will all pay.
I think the industry has lost the tease because you can get so much for free..
if we had some control on what was free I know everyone would make 50% more then they are now. from tgp's to paysites etc.

I have always said censor the pink and make them pay for it..

RogerV 06-14-2006 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve
meh.. if free porn were so great no one would pay.. and yet tens of thousands of people pay every single day... day after day after day without fail.. people will ALWAYS pay for value.


they pay but if we censored the free then they would stay members..

Then rev-share might have a chance LOL

I know it will never be done because of the nature of the industry and greeed

aico 06-14-2006 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nestle
Well, at the gym maybe they are getting better equipment and they up the membership fee to balance their cost out. Cable is getting more expensive because you are getting HD, more channels, etc.

There's really nothing new being introduced in the porn industry... as in, content doesn't offer anything new and you can't add in any value to content. In fact, I think there are more and more girls out there that are willing to do shoots for a lot less than what they were used to maybe let's say 5-10 years ago. This is reducing the cost of producing content. Thereby reducing the cost of presenting it.

Bottom line: the porn industry thrives on volume of sales rather than quality of sales. Generally speaking, if you try raising prices, then your volume is going to go down. If you lower prices, your volume is more likely to rise up.


I agree, and wish I would have read this before making my post, cuz i said the same exact thing, sort of. :thumbsup

Wizzo 06-14-2006 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMan
You should rally up with GW Bush. I am sure he'll come up with a nice porn taxe to inflate pricing.

He's good at shit like that :Oh crap

Actually, the GOP killed the porn tax bill in congress last year, because then it makes it legit...

PS- This in no way a endocement for the GOP, just stating the facts... :winkwink:

czarina 06-14-2006 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV
We pay alot to shoot our own exclusive content and its not cheap.

How can we make more? every guy needs to wack off we all know that right?

we hold the golden ticket how do we all make more off it.. Just like Gas they keep raising the prices knowing we will pay


Getting something like this done in this industry is like trying to get the to unite against a company like acacia. It wont happen.

madawgz 06-14-2006 12:33 PM

its impossible, there is too much competition

Joey B. Lo 06-14-2006 12:35 PM

I'll raise my prices if you all raise yours :winkwink:

thaifan99 06-14-2006 12:35 PM

Prices will come down as people become more internet savvy.

bigdog 06-14-2006 12:37 PM

Start charging every two weeks instead of every month. $30 every two weeks

Farang 06-14-2006 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey B. Lo
I'll raise my prices if you all raise yours :winkwink:

everyone say it but no one will do it :Oh crap

MSV 06-14-2006 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey B. Lo
I'll raise my prices if you all raise yours :winkwink:

Exactly.

The key is to get as many of the biggest players possible to join in and raise prices, to make this a sure thing you need a lot of programs and sites to start raising prices so that the surfers are forced to pay higher.

Love Sex 06-14-2006 12:44 PM

porn isnt worth as much as you think...

a blowjob is the same price as joining a paysite in most places.

TheDoc 06-14-2006 12:46 PM

About 100 reasons you can't raise prices.

1) Most paysites don't update enough and/or don't really have enough content. Want to charge more, update more with better content. Would you keep your expensive cable if you only got 4 new movies a month, and everything else was ALWAYS the same? Cable has 100's of new shows/movies every month, may be the same show, but it's a new episode.

2) Most member areas offer nothing but content and leased content, no message boards, real filler content, personal touches, and the list goes on.

3) Customer support in this business is a flat fucking joke. From billing companies to how paysite companies handle support. Some do it correctly, most don't.

4) We get to xsale, upsell, emails, etc.. tons of ways to re-convert the same client, with much larger upgrade costs than say a phone company.

5) The average member stays between 1.5 - 3.5 months, that should be a damn good sign. Just like good shows, if the site is good people will stay and return, if not they move on to another channel.

6) Mainstream companies for the most part get to deal with clients only within the region they do business in. We get to do it across the world, 24/7 we get to take sales, and our sites NEVER take a day off unless something breaks. Ever tried to buy cable at 1am?

7) A handful of porn companies have 200+ staff, how many have 1000+, or 20k employees? How many have top of the line insurance, investment packages, stock options, public companies, have 10 locations, put products in your homes, and so on? The costs to run a cable company are a bit larger than running a porn company.

Not everything is going up, my ISP, hosting costs, content production, internet phones, design, almost everything we deal with has gone down in prices, making us more net profit percentages.

Free content doesn't affect our costs, it affects ratios. If you have the content, the site, the features, you can charge $40+. But I can only name one or two sites that come close to being worth that much. Not even my own sites are worth that.

Love Sex 06-14-2006 12:47 PM

If everyone raised prices the winner will be the guy who still has the best movies.

Pornwolf 06-14-2006 12:49 PM

I totally agree Roger. I never understood what the rationale was behind charging the same amount for a membership as a single new release porn DVD in a video store. Prices should be $49.95 on average. People would pay but webmasters are scared to go there.

Why are webmasters so scared to ask for what they want? We all want the same things after all.

Joey B. Lo 06-14-2006 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Love Sex
porn isnt worth as much as you think...

a blowjob is the same price as joining a paysite in most places.

But many prefer jerking to porn on the web over a blowjob from a hooker. This is true for many reasons, 1 no one's ever gotten a disease from internet porn, 2 you don't have to leave your house and peeps are lazy, 3 getting a hooker is dangerous in many places illegal, 4 porn is not physically cheating on your mate, 5 etc etc etc etc.... My point, for really good porn, no price is too high. As for this thread, if all the good programs charged $49.95, people would pay it. Maybe we should start a webmasters price fixing union lol :winkwink:

PornMySex 06-14-2006 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV
Just like you need Gas to get to work you need to wake off so you dont get Blue balls..

Maybe we should start censoring the free content now and make them pay for it.. trust me they all will

Your idea reminds me tgp2. It would have been great if all tgp1 switched to tgp2 but it's impossible until there is a law about it... wich isn't going to happen now.

Bruce_Miller 06-14-2006 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoogieCFZ
1) competition
2) so much given away for free.

if there were 3,000,000 free tv stations you'd bet your sweet ass the price of your cable would be cheap as shit.

I couldn't agree more!


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