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Brujah 05-23-2006 08:14 AM

RogerV and Pornkings...
 
Is this what you've become? You can do better...
fucking-around-and-business-discussion/612907-pornkings-sending-traffic-spyware-installing-scumbags.html

OldSchoolJim 05-23-2006 08:16 AM

Should i even bother asking for a timeline pic?? :1orglaugh

media 05-23-2006 08:17 AM

Dude, you're not even up to current events are you? RogerV sold his share in Porn Kings over a year ago... He owns Porno Pushers now...

Get your facts straight before you start throwing people into the fire...

Brujah 05-23-2006 08:20 AM

I'm not up to speed. That's for sure. Now it makes sense.

What the fuck are you idiots doing to RogerV's old program?

media 05-23-2006 08:26 AM

Why don't you wait for Smokeys findings like we're doing right now, then make your decision on that, it's only the fair thing to do..

Nothing is installed on our pages, and we do not redirect tour/join hits.. so alot of these accusations need to be pointed at the source. We sold our exit to a marketing firm who happens to do something that you do not like...

Well let me tell you something Brujah, about 90% of the large programs out there are doing something most people do not like... mass exits, prechecked crosses, geo redirects (they may or may not pay you on) Digital Rights Management, the list goes ON AND ON.

Point being from what I said in the thread last week is we would make our decision after smokey could prove otherwise with his installs of the program and initial tests... Texas Dreams tested this install personally and told me he has had ZERO problems after uninstall..

You people and your witchhunts make me laugh sometimes...

AmateurWealth 05-23-2006 08:28 AM

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=613126

MarkMan 05-23-2006 08:35 AM

i don't think spyware has much of a futrue anymore.... people have pushed it too far :GFYBand

Verbal Kint 05-23-2006 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by media
Why don't you wait for Smokeys findings like we're doing right now, then make your decision on that, it's only the fair thing to do..

Nothing is installed on our pages, and we do not redirect tour/join hits.. so alot of these accusations need to be pointed at the source. We sold our exit to a marketing firm who happens to do something that you do not like...

Well let me tell you something Brujah, about 90% of the large programs out there are doing something most people do not like... mass exits, prechecked crosses, geo redirects (they may or may not pay you on) Digital Rights Management, the list goes ON AND ON.

Point being from what I said in the thread last week is we would make our decision after smokey could prove otherwise with his installs of the program and initial tests... Texas Dreams tested this install personally and told me he has had ZERO problems after uninstall..

You people and your witchhunts make me laugh sometimes...

I think the problem is after the 3 days, if TD installed it and then uninstalled it after 3 minutes he wouldn't see a problem.

Don't you agree that you are somewhat responsible for where you send your traffic? You wouldn't be OK with it, if the marketing firm you use send the traffic to a trojan install nightmare right or a lolita site with questionable content right?

The we sold it to a marketing firm and don't care what happens to the surfer / have no responsibility excuse is BS.

Edit: if you had come out and said we won't be involved with this we will investigate it and remove the links until we are satisfied this is not what is happening you could have avoided all this.

AmateurWealth 05-23-2006 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verbal Kint
I think the problem is after the 3 days, if TD installed it and then uninstalled it after 3 minutes he wouldn't see a problem.

Don't you agree that you are somewhat responsible for where you send your traffic? You wouldn't be OK with it, if the marketing firm you use send the traffic to a trojan install nightmare right or a lolita site with questionable content right?

The we sold it to a marketing firm and don't care what happens to the surfer / have no responsibility excuse is BS.

Verbal kint...what about this thread?
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=613126

media 05-23-2006 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verbal Kint
I think the problem is after the 3 days, if TD installed it and then uninstalled it after 3 minutes he wouldn't see a problem.

Don't you agree that you are somewhat responsible for where you send your traffic? You wouldn't be OK with it, if the marketing firm you use send the traffic to a trojan install nightmare right or a lolita site with questionable content right?

The we sold it to a marketing firm and don't care what happens to the surfer / have no responsibility excuse is BS.

I do believe that TD did the full trial term as did I....

I did not have any issue going into my add/remove programs and removing two items that were associated with this program and being done with it... Nothings happened to my pc since then, and this was on day 4 after installing this program onto my main office computer, and two other computers...

Verbal Kint 05-23-2006 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmateurWealth
Verbal kint...what about this thread?
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=613126

One word GUBA
Their skin came down after 2 hours because people here complained about it.

Brujah 05-23-2006 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by media
Why don't you wait for Smokeys findings like we're doing right now, then make your decision on that, it's only the fair thing to do..

Nothing is installed on our pages, and we do not redirect tour/join hits.. so alot of these accusations need to be pointed at the source. We sold our exit to a marketing firm who happens to do something that you do not like...

Well let me tell you something Brujah, about 90% of the large programs out there are doing something most people do not like... mass exits, prechecked crosses, geo redirects (they may or may not pay you on) Digital Rights Management, the list goes ON AND ON.

Point being from what I said in the thread last week is we would make our decision after smokey could prove otherwise with his installs of the program and initial tests... Texas Dreams tested this install personally and told me he has had ZERO problems after uninstall..

You people and your witchhunts make me laugh sometimes...

Sorry.. I took Baddog's word for it too. I figured he'd already known the deal and responded accordingly. That'll teach me.

AmateurWealth 05-23-2006 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verbal Kint
One word GUBA
Their skin came down after 2 hours because people here complained about it.

Really?? i still see a webmaster direct banner flying high.....maybe they just overlooked it...guess the movement has not been as strong?

Verbal Kint 05-23-2006 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by media
I do believe that TD did the full trial term as did I....

I did not have any issue going into my add/remove programs and removing two items that were associated with this program and being done with it... Nothings happened to my pc since then, and this was on day 4 after installing this program onto my main office computer, and two other computers...

So I can go ahead and install it?
If I have problems uninstalling it you will reimburse me the $100?
If I have no problems uninstalling it I will go ahead and publicly support your decision.

What is the link to the install on your exit?

media 05-23-2006 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah
Sorry.. I took Baddog's word for it too. I figured he'd already known the deal and responded accordingly. That'll teach me.

Baddog has a hard on for Pimpdog, which has 0 to do with me... So I don't have a response to Bad Dog since I like him enough to not get into it with him on the boards...

I am sure that in due time the details will all come out from tests from credible people like Smokey who have the skill to determine if things are full of shady shit.

We will make our decision after that point...

media 05-23-2006 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verbal Kint
So I can go ahead and install it?
If I have problems uninstalling it you will reimburse me the $100?
If I have no problems uninstalling it I will go ahead and publicly support your decision.

What is the link to the install on your exit?

I'd prefer that you wait for Smokeys findings on this, since he's using some old computers to track and monitor them and he should be on about day 4 or 5 of testing by now. We'll get good findings on the matter good or bad...

No need for you to test today, since it will take 4-5 days for you to report findings that may be reported in the next day or two...

Quickdraw 05-23-2006 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkMan
i don't think spyware has much of a futrue anymore.... people have pushed it too far :GFYBand

Unfortunately, I believe that statement to be wrong.

When it comes to Spyware/Malware/Trojans/etc., people are reactive vs. proactive. The hackers and scammers are 1 to several steps ahead of the game.
I would wager that a majority of webmasters that are active in link trading, are linking to a site that has recently been hacked and are silently installing Trojans and other nefarious malware on users systems.
The problem grows exponentially from there. A good portion of this malware opens the doors for other attacks, logs your keystrokes, modifies your hosts file to steal traffic from legitimate sites, and many many many other things that pose a problem to users.
Ask around, you will find someone that has been hacked and had their surfers infected with something. Usually their traffic will start to plummet. If the hack goes unnoticed for too long, the site will find itself on all sorts of block lists and simply linked as being a source of infection.
Malware is a huge problem and only getting bigger.

baddog 05-23-2006 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah
Sorry.. I took Baddog's word for it too. I figured he'd already known the deal and responded accordingly. That'll teach me.

What did I say that was incorrect?

Brujah 05-23-2006 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
What did I say that was incorrect?

They are saying that they are not supporting 'ransomware' on any of their sites. That Smokey will be along soon to support that statement.

baddog 05-23-2006 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah
They are saying that they are not supporting 'ransomware' on any of their sites. That Smokey will be along soon to support that statement.


Have you read the TOS of MoviePass? Are they using MoviePass as an exit? Do you know what Ransomware is?

p1mpdogg 05-23-2006 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
Have you read the TOS of MoviePass? Are they using MoviePass as an exit? Do you know what Ransomware is?


i guess i don get the argument

so moviepass clearly states the terms of thier service

and that is wrong in what way?

thats liek sying the adult paysite model is shady and we should all change

in the fine print it says we recur monthly.. oh fuck, call santa clause.

is it the fact that its finbe print, or the fact that you didnt think of the idea before them and do it?

CaptainHowdy 05-23-2006 09:18 AM

We Need Smokey!!!!!!

Brujah 05-23-2006 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
Have you read the TOS of MoviePass? Are they using MoviePass as an exit? Do you know what Ransomware is?

I didn't say it was incorrect. Media is.

baddog 05-23-2006 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg
i guess i don get the argument

so moviepass clearly states the terms of thier service

and that is wrong in what way?

thats liek sying the adult paysite model is shady and we should all change

in the fine print it says we recur monthly.. oh fuck, call santa clause.

is it the fact that its finbe print, or the fact that you didnt think of the idea before them and do it?


Whatever you are comfortable with Trey. Just don't get upset when people call a spade a spade.

baddog 05-23-2006 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg

so moviepass clearly states the terms of thier service

yeah, pretty clearly
http://moviepass.tv/?section=terms


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baddog 05-23-2006 09:41 AM

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ANY MATERIAL DOWNLOADED OR OTHERWISE OBTAINED THROUGH THE USE OF THE SERVICE IS DONE AT YOUR OWN DISCRETION AND RISK AND THAT YOU WILL BE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE TO YOUR COMPUTER SYSTEM OR LOSS OF DATA THAT RESULTS FROM THE DOWNLOAD OF ANY SUCH MATERIAL. NO ADVICE OR INFORMATION, WHETHER ORAL OR WRITTEN, OBTAINED BY YOU FROM MEDIAPIPE AND MOVIEPASS OR THROUGH OR FROM THE SERVICE SHALL CREATE ANY WARRANTY NOT EXPRESSLY STATED IN THE TOS. A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF USERS MAY EXPERIENCE EPILEPTIC SEIZURES WHEN EXPOSED TO CERTAIN LIGHT PATTERNS OR BACKGROUNDS ON A COMPUTER SCREEN OR WHILE USING THE SERVICE. CERTAIN CONDITIONS MAY INDUCE PREVIOUSLY UNDETECTED EPILEPTIC SYMPTOMS EVEN IN USERS WHO HAVE NO HISTORY OF PRIOR SEIZURES OR EPILEPSY. IF YOU, OR ANYONE IN YOUR FAMILY, HAVE AN EPILEPTIC CONDITION, CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN PRIOR TO USING THE SERVICE. IMMEDIATELY DISCONTINUE USE OF THE SERVICE AND CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN IF YOU EXPERIENCE ANY OF THE FOLLOWING SYMPTOMS WHILE USING THE SERVICE -- DIZZINESS, ALTERED VISION, EYE OR MUSCLE TWITCHES, LOSS OF AWARENESS, DISORIENTATION, ANY INVOLUNTARY MOVEMENT, OR CONVULSIONS.

18. LIMITATION OF LIABILITY
YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT MEDIAPIPE AND MOVIEPASS SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF MOVIEPASS ANDOR MEDIA PIPE HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE SERVICE; (ii) THE COST OF PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS AND SERVICES RESULTING FROM ANY GOODS, DATA, INFORMATION OR SERVICES PURCHASED OR OBTAINED OR MESSAGES RECEIVED OR TRANSACTIONS ENTERED INTO THROUGH OR FROM THE SERVICE; (iii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iv) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE SERVICE; OR (v) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE SERVICE.

19. EXCLUSIONS AND LIMITATIONS
SOME JURISDICTIONS DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OF CERTAIN WARRANTIES OR THE LIMITATION OR EXCLUSION OF LIABILITY FOR INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES. ACCORDINGLY, SOME OF THE ABOVE LIMITATIONS OF SECTIONS 17 AND 18 MAY NOT APPLY TO YOU.

20. NO THIRD PARTY BENEFICIARIES
You agree that, except as otherwise expressly provided in this TOS, there shall be no third party beneficiaries to this Agreement.

21. NOTICE
MediaPipe and MoviePass may provide you with notices, including those regarding changes to the TOS, by email, regular mail, or postings on the Service.

22. TRADEMARK INFORMATION
The MediaPipe and MoviePass logos, are trademarks and service marks and other MediaPipe and MoviePass logos and product and service names are trademarks of MediaPipe and MoviePass Inc. (the MediaPipe and MoviePass Marks). You agree not to display or use in any manner, the MediaPipe andor MoviePass Marks, without MediaPipe and MoviePasshahaha8217;s prior permission.

23. NOTICE AND PROCEDURE FOR MAKING CLAIMS OF COPYRIGHT OR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY INFRINGEMENT
MediaPipe and MoviePass respects the intellectual property of others, and we ask our users to do the same. MediaPipe and MoviePass may, in appropriate circumstances and at its discretion, disable andor terminate the accounts of users who may be repeat infringers. If you believe that your work has been copied in a way that constitutes copyright infringement, or your intellectual property rights have been otherwise violated, please provide MediaPipe and MoviePasshahaha8217;s Copyright Agent the following information

an electronic or physical signature of the person authorized to act on behalf of the owner of the copyright or other intellectual property interest;

a description of the copyrighted work or other intellectual property that you claim has been infringed;

a description of where the material that you claim is infringing is located on the site;

your address, telephone number, and email address;

a statement by you that you have a good faith belief that the disputed use is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law;

a statement by you, made under penalty of perjury, that the above information in your Notice is accurate and that you are the copyright or intellectual property owner or authorized to act on the copyright or intellectual property owner's behalf. MediaPipe and MoviePass's Agent for Notice of claims of copyright or other intellectual property infringement can be reached as follows By mail Copyright Agent co MoviePass Inc. 40 Gerrard Street, London, W1D 5QE

24. GENERAL INFORMATION
Entire Agreement. The TOS constitutes the entire agreement between you and MediaPipe and MoviePass and governs your use of the Service, superseding any prior agreements between you and MediaPipe and MoviePass with respect to the Service. You also may be subject to additional terms and conditions that may apply when you use or purchase certain other MediaPipe and MoviePass services, affiliate services, third-party content, or third-party software. Choice of Law and Forum. The TOS and the relationship between you and MediaPipe and MoviePass shall be governed by the laws of the State of California without regard to its conflict of law provisions. You and MediaPipe and MoviePass agree to submit to the personal and exclusive jurisdiction of the courts located within the county of Los Angeles, California. All disputes relating to this Agreement (except those related to intellectual property rights) shall be subject to final and binding arbitration in Los Angeles County, California and governed by the American Arbitration Associationhahaha8217;s commercial arbitration rules.

Waiver and Severability of Terms. The failure of MediaPipe and MoviePass to exercise or enforce any right or provision of the TOS shall not constitute a waiver of such right or provision. If any provision of the TOS is found by a court of competent jurisdiction to be invalid, the parties nevertheless agree that the court should endeavor to give effect to the parties' intentions as reflected in the provision, and the other provisions of the TOS remain in full force and effect. No Right of Survivorship and Non-Transferability. You agree that your MediaPipe and MoviePass account is non-transferable and any rights to your MediaPipe and MoviePass I.D. or contents within your account terminate upon your death. Upon receipt of a copy of a death certificate, your account may be terminated and all contents therein permanently deleted. Statute of Limitations. You agree that regardless of any statute or law to the contrary, any claim or cause of action arising out of or related to use of the Service or the TOS must be filed within one (1) year after such claim or cause of action arose or be forever barred. The section titles in the TOS are for convenience only and have no legal or contractual effect.

U.S. Government Restricted Rights Legend. The Software and any documentation provided are commercial in nature and have been developed exclusively at private expense. Use, duplication or disclosure by the United States Government is subject to restrictions as set forth in subparagraph (c)(1)(ii) of the Rights in Technical Data and Computer Software clause at DFARS 252.227-7103 or subparagraphs (c)(1) and (2) of the Commercial Computer Software Restricted Rights section at 48 C.F.R. 52.227-19, and any other successor regulations, as applicable.

25. VIOLATIONS
Please report any violations of the TOS to our Customer Care group by clicking on our Customer Service link at the base of any Moviepass.tv Webpage. Rev. 09092005 kmf

Brujah 05-23-2006 09:44 AM

LOLOLOLOL!!

Quote:

ONCE THE SOFTWARE IS INSTALLED ON YOUR COMPUTER IT WILL CREATE AUTO START FEATURES WITHIN YOUR OPERATING SYSTEM THAT WILL RUN PROCESSES ON YOUR SYSTEM. THESE PROCESSES AND ALL COMPONENTS OF THE SOFTWARE CAN BE COMPLETELY REMOVED SHOULD YOU ELECT TO CANCEL YOUR TRIAL WITHIN THE SPECIFIED TRIAL PERIOD. IF YOU DO NOT CANCEL WITHIN THE SPECIFIED TRIAL PERIOD OUR SOFTWARE LICENSE MANAGEMENT UTILITY WILL STAY ON YOUR COMPUTER AND WILL CONTINUE TO LAUNCH ON START UP OF YOUR COMPUTER UNTIL YOU SATISFY THE OBLIGATIONS YOU AGREED TO WHEN YOU INSTALLED OUR SOFTWARE.

p1mpdogg 05-23-2006 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
Whatever you are comfortable with Trey. Just don't get upset when people call a spade a spade.


who is upset you old fool?

im loving this

until its proven otherwise, i stand behind moviepass and our relationship with them as advertising partners

baddog 05-23-2006 09:51 AM

http://forum.us.dell.com/supportforu...ssage.id=52829

http://forum.us.dell.com/supportforu...ssage.id=51939

http://www.experts-exchange.com/Appl..._21812344.html

http://forums.windrivers.com/showthread.php?t=75999

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/enter...moviepass.html

http://reviews.cnet.com/5208-6132-0....geID=188998 8

http://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=189178

http://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=188549

http://www.lavasoftsupport.com/index...d&sho w=&st=&

baddog 05-23-2006 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah
LOLOLOLOL!!


Now you understand ther term "ransomware."

p1mpdogg 05-23-2006 09:53 AM

walmart is on ripoffreport. you gonna bitch about them too?

Pure Evil 05-23-2006 09:54 AM

Moviepass IS a version of Ransomware. The only problem is that the surfer is willingly installing it because people are too damn lazy to read TOS anymore.

p1mpdogg 05-23-2006 09:56 AM

this is for you dipshit

http://www.ripoffreport.com/results....=&searchtype=0

Brujah 05-23-2006 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pure Evil
Moviepass IS a version of Ransomware. The only problem is that the surfer is willingly installing it because people are too damn lazy to read TOS anymore.

Because it's "disguised" as a free movie?

baddog 05-23-2006 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah
LOLOLOLOL!!


Don't forget this part:

2. HOW IT WORKS
BY PARTICIPATING IN THE MOVIEPASS MEDIAPIPE FREE TRIAL OFFER THE MEDIAPIPE SOFTWARE WILL ENABLE YOU TO ACCESS THE AVAILABLE CONTENT FOR THE PERIOD OF TIME SPECIFIED ON THE ADVERTISMENT YOU HAVE CLICKED THROUGH. IF YOU DO NOT EITHER CANCEL OR PROVIDE PAYMENT INFORMATION DURING THE TRIAL PERIOD OUR BILLING SOFTWARE WILL BE ENABLED UPON THE EXPIRATION OF YOUR TRIAL PERIOD. THE BILLING SOFTWARE WILL RUN ON YOUR COMPUTER, DISPLAYING POP-UP WINDOW REMINDERS THAT PROVIDE YOU WITH VARIOUS METHODS OF PAYMENT FOR THE ANNUAL LICENSE. THESE POP-UP WINDOWS WILL APPEAR MORE FREQUENTLY UNTIL YOU CHOOSE ONE OF THE PAYMENT OPTIONS AND PAY FOR THE LICENSE. THE BILLING SOFTWARE IS SOLELY DESIGNED TO PREVENT FRAUDULENT AND UNAUTHORIZED USE OF THE MEDIAPIPE SOFTWARE. IF YOU FAIL TO PAY OR CANCEL DURING THE TRIAL PERIOD, YOU ARE LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO PURCHASE AN ANNUAL LICENSE TO THE MEDIAPIPE SOFTWARE AT THE PRICE LISTED IN THE ADVERTISEMENT YOU CLICKED THROUGH TO INITIATE INSTALLATION.

p1mpdogg 05-23-2006 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
Don't forget this part:

2. HOW IT WORKS
BY PARTICIPATING IN THE MOVIEPASS MEDIAPIPE FREE TRIAL OFFER THE MEDIAPIPE SOFTWARE WILL ENABLE YOU TO ACCESS THE AVAILABLE CONTENT FOR THE PERIOD OF TIME SPECIFIED ON THE ADVERTISMENT YOU HAVE CLICKED THROUGH. IF YOU DO NOT EITHER CANCEL OR PROVIDE PAYMENT INFORMATION DURING THE TRIAL PERIOD OUR BILLING SOFTWARE WILL BE ENABLED UPON THE EXPIRATION OF YOUR TRIAL PERIOD. THE BILLING SOFTWARE WILL RUN ON YOUR COMPUTER, DISPLAYING POP-UP WINDOW REMINDERS THAT PROVIDE YOU WITH VARIOUS METHODS OF PAYMENT FOR THE ANNUAL LICENSE. THESE POP-UP WINDOWS WILL APPEAR MORE FREQUENTLY UNTIL YOU CHOOSE ONE OF THE PAYMENT OPTIONS AND PAY FOR THE LICENSE. THE BILLING SOFTWARE IS SOLELY DESIGNED TO PREVENT FRAUDULENT AND UNAUTHORIZED USE OF THE MEDIAPIPE SOFTWARE. IF YOU FAIL TO PAY OR CANCEL DURING THE TRIAL PERIOD, YOU ARE LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO PURCHASE AN ANNUAL LICENSE TO THE MEDIAPIPE SOFTWARE AT THE PRICE LISTED IN THE ADVERTISEMENT YOU CLICKED THROUGH TO INITIATE INSTALLATION.


i see you ignored the fact that walmart is on ripoffreport aswell.

nice.

you must be ripping off your hosting clients, you avoided the topic.

media 05-23-2006 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah
ONCE THE SOFTWARE IS INSTALLED ON YOUR COMPUTER IT WILL CREATE AUTO START FEATURES WITHIN YOUR OPERATING SYSTEM THAT WILL RUN PROCESSES ON YOUR SYSTEM. THESE PROCESSES AND ALL COMPONENTS OF THE SOFTWARE CAN BE COMPLETELY REMOVED SHOULD YOU ELECT TO CANCEL YOUR TRIAL WITHIN THE SPECIFIED TRIAL PERIOD. IF YOU DO NOT CANCEL WITHIN THE SPECIFIED TRIAL PERIOD OUR SOFTWARE LICENSE MANAGEMENT UTILITY WILL STAY ON YOUR COMPUTER AND WILL CONTINUE TO LAUNCH ON START UP OF YOUR COMPUTER UNTIL YOU SATISFY THE OBLIGATIONS YOU AGREED TO WHEN YOU INSTALLED OUR SOFTWARE.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah
LOLOLOLOL!!

Brujah, from my understanding the processes are to detect if you are continuing to try to view the downloaded movies that were obtained in the trial, these are the only processes that should be running from my talks with these guys, if you continue to run the software it will continue to prompt you that you need to pay to view the movies. This is not really much different than any other DRM out there that when you try to view a movie that is DRM protected it will take you to a page demanding that you pay to use it.

I was able to remove this program without paying $100, so why were other people not able to? I sometimes think that the complaints add up and then we see them as a whole problem... We get hundreds of complaints of accusations of us stealing from our surfers because they see an initial authorization charge of $39.84 on our sites (that is in fact not fully charged) and then they flip the fuck out and go on a rampage, after we explain what they are seeing then they calm down and are cool with it, and most report no problems later on...

So that makes me wonder if the great % of these people even really are savvy enough to know how to uninstall something properly... I won't fault them for clearly stating what the program will do in their terms... thats what anyone should state... When it gets malicious and starts redirecting with link code changes is when I will be upset.... Until then I've seen enough right now to continue to fullfill the contract that I have with their markering firm that purchased our exit, I will be more reluctant to renew I can say, and if it is in fact proven that there is shady shit, we will probably not renew our contract at all..

I don't want to rip my webmasters off, that is not what I ever had in mind with this deal... Nor I'm sure did any other of the 10+ major programs out there who had and still have this marketing arrangement on their programs.

Pure Evil 05-23-2006 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by media
I was able to remove this program without paying $100, so why were other people not able to?

After how long?


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