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edgeprod 04-20-2006 11:07 AM

New MAC user -- need help!
 
I ran out and bought one of the new Intel macs -- LOVING it! However, I'm not really sure what I should be using for HTML editing, etc.

I assume I need to get Photoshop, so that's a no brainer. I am using Transmit for FTP, VLC for video, the built in Terminal for SSH ... but that's all I've figured out.

Any suggestions?

yellowmenace 04-20-2006 11:09 AM

i think they have dreamweaver in mac.

candyflip 04-20-2006 11:10 AM

Dreamweaver for sure.

split_joel 04-20-2006 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip
Dreamweaver for sure.


use dreamweaver or the standerd text editor for the mac :)

Deraj 04-20-2006 11:25 AM

I knew you needed help just by saying that you are a MAC user ! lol

edgeprod 04-20-2006 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Deraj
I knew you needed help just by saying that you are a MAC user ! lol

LOL yeah, you aren't kidding -- it's a whole new world!

I used to make fun of Mac users, but now I can see the truth -- it's better to use the software that's being ripped off than the software that is doing the ripping. OS X has blown me away, when compared to Windows. And with Boot Camp, I can run Windows in a dual-boot environment on my Apple computer, so why would I buy anything but a Mac from now on?

edgeprod 04-20-2006 11:34 AM

Ok, Dreamweaver and Photoshop it is, then. I don't think I can get the "upgrade" price, even though I have the Windows version .. grrr.

Deraj 04-20-2006 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod
Ok, Dreamweaver and Photoshop it is, then. I don't think I can get the "upgrade" price, even though I have the Windows version .. grrr.

Just download morpheus and search for it.. you are sure to find it for free =)

:-X

edgeprod 04-20-2006 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Deraj
Just download morpheus and search for it.. you are sure to find it for free

Steal it? I wouldn't want someone stealing my content, etc., so I'm not going to steal their software. :-)

rdunn404 04-20-2006 12:08 PM

What's so good about OS X that just "blows" XP sp2 away? And not in the grandma sense of 'easier to click stuff'. I mean for someone like me who tweaks XP perfectly to my liking and has never had any major problems.

kanalj 04-20-2006 12:14 PM

you got either Adobe Golive, Dreamweaver for you nobrainer coding.
then you have JEdit and BBedit, the former is java based cross platform.

deniska 04-20-2006 12:15 PM

I agree BootCamp is very nice.. I have it setup on a mac book pro but to tell you the truth I never load windows on it. Why would you want to when you have OS X. But the thing is a monster when running windows stuff as well.

kanalj 04-20-2006 12:17 PM

oh yea you might wanna look at #macfilez on EfNet (IRC), could serve you well. and http://thepiratebay.org is a nice place aswell...

spanky part 2 04-20-2006 12:17 PM

Just get the macromedia package. It has dreamweaver, fireworks and flash in a bundle. Dreamweaver and fireworks work really well together.

madawgz 04-20-2006 12:29 PM

another user converted :\ .............

dissipate 04-20-2006 12:36 PM

I have a legally purchased copy of dreamweaver for mac if you want to borrow it for evaluation purposes

tenderobject 04-20-2006 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod
LOL yeah, you aren't kidding -- it's a whole new world!

I used to make fun of Mac users, but now I can see the truth -- it's better to use the software that's being ripped off than the software that is doing the ripping. OS X has blown me away, when compared to Windows. And with Boot Camp, I can run Windows in a dual-boot environment on my Apple computer, so why would I buy anything but a Mac from now on?

where can i get that bootcamp? im clueless. i have virtual pc in my new g5 (which i haven't used that much co's i need to backu files first) but i never tried it that much. it sucks to see windows running on mac os (heheh joking). anyone could help? anyways, i use dreamweaver for editing html. haven't tried other editing software. i love transit don't use Rbrowser for FTP not good for my experience. did you noticed icq and ym on mac? lol nothing is new just an old version atleast windows has new versions. :) congrats on the purchase i need to get rid of my old g5 though its not too easy to sell macs here in my place. :( i need to pull some legs

Azlord 04-20-2006 12:47 PM

Are you using it to design, code, or render?

edgeprod 04-20-2006 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rdunn404
What's so good about OS X that just "blows" XP sp2 away? And not in the grandma sense of 'easier to click stuff'. I mean for someone like me who tweaks XP perfectly to my liking and has never had any major problems.

I said it has blown ME away. I find myself working more effeciently, more effectively, and the way the workflow happens is so intuitive, I am more productive.

Your mileage will obviously vary. I'm a Linux/Gnome user by default, so I guess that makes me biased to something that I can relate to more closely than Windows.

I'm still using XP SP2, no question, but for games -- not work. Linux has taken a back seat to OS X, though.

edgeprod 04-20-2006 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by deniska
I agree BootCamp is very nice.. I have it setup on a mac book pro but to tell you the truth I never load windows on it. Why would you want to when you have OS X. But the thing is a monster when running windows stuff as well.

No doubt about it. Anyone who says otherwise is very likely to never have tried it.

edgeprod 04-20-2006 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kanalj
you got either Adobe Golive, Dreamweaver for you nobrainer coding.
then you have JEdit and BBedit, the former is java based cross platform.

Just bought Photoshop & Dreamweaver -- which is what I am familiar with from Windows. On Linux, I use Gimp, but I think it isn't mature enough to replace PS for me.

Good suggestions, thanks!

edgeprod 04-20-2006 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tenderobject
where can i get that bootcamp?

Google that. :-)

Yeah, I have one of the new dual cores .. I bought a Mini (because I have huge monitors, and the iMac would be silly to downgrade to), and a laptop. They scream with speed -- I'm very happy. My Windows/Linux PC was a 4200+ AMD with 2GB of RAM, Dual 7900 cards in SLI (don't quote me on this, I bought it months ago, and barely remember) .. this feels faster.

edgeprod 04-20-2006 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Azlord
Are you using it to design, code, or render?

Design and code. I'd like to play with rendering, but for now, I'm just cranking out code and sites.

Fetish 04-20-2006 01:34 PM

Dreamweaver is a great program and you can also use Iweb which is part of the Apple suite for simpler editing.

edgeprod 04-20-2006 01:37 PM

iWeb is weird -- it doesn't seem to save individual projects, but I could be completely wrong. I made a site with it, saved it, and now that site comes up by "default" every time I open it. Is that how it's supposed to work?

I bought iWork, though, and that's AMAZING -- I like it a lot better than MS Word.

aico 04-20-2006 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod
Ok, Dreamweaver and Photoshop it is, then. I don't think I can get the "upgrade" price, even though I have the Windows version .. grrr.

They used to have a Cross Platform upgrade price, you might want to check out their site and see.

edgeprod 04-20-2006 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by aico
They used to have a Cross Platform upgrade price, you might want to check out their site and see.

D'oh -- just got back from buying Photoshop and the Macromedia MX suite. It's okay -- it was only like $1,000.

Fetish 04-20-2006 01:52 PM

Apple sales are going to blow up now that you can boot Windows on them too, you agree?

edgeprod 04-20-2006 01:57 PM

I'd say, yes. Why buy something that only runs Windows, when you can have cool-looking hardware that runs both?

Personally, I plan to get one of the desktop Intel boxes when they come out later this year.

I installed OS X on my Intel (Dell) laptop, and it runs fine, but I like the looks of the Apple laptops better. From now on, I'll toss Windows on the Apple hardware. Why buy something else?

Dell support has sucked so much lately I can't imagine doing any more business with them anyway.

sinclair 04-20-2006 02:53 PM

edge,

welcome to paradise!

edgeprod 04-20-2006 02:59 PM

That's how it feels, to be honest.

I get a lot of flack from Windows users (and I used to be one of the guys GIVING the flack to Mac users), but it's easy to tell that they haven't had one of the new Macs on their desk. Playing with it in the store isn't the same. I thought it sucked in the store -- only bought it because I needed to run a program .. it wasn't until I got home that I realized what I had.

Azlord 04-20-2006 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod
Design and code. I'd like to play with rendering, but for now, I'm just cranking out code and sites.

If you are an experienced coder then check out BBEdit, or even switch to your PC mode and get EditPlus. If you want a WYSIWYG type program then go with Dreamweaver. If you are going to have a shitload of fonts or anything like that for design, then get SuitCase to manage your fonts. I have X1 and it works well. I would use FF for testing, the IE for mac is shitty, and Safari is much different than what you are coding for. There's like < 10% using mac, so again, switch over and test on a PC, in IE for the most part.

Transmit is better than fetch IMO. ummm... That's about it I think.

kanalj 04-20-2006 03:08 PM

http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
so easy, just like the OSX.
*pet's his G5*

tenderobject 04-20-2006 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod
Google that. :-)

Yeah, I have one of the new dual cores .. I bought a Mini (because I have huge monitors, and the iMac would be silly to downgrade to), and a laptop. They scream with speed -- I'm very happy. My Windows/Linux PC was a 4200+ AMD with 2GB of RAM, Dual 7900 cards in SLI (don't quote me on this, I bought it months ago, and barely remember) .. this feels faster.

you really got to love macs. very fast and stable. i've used windows before for designing and stuff after a months of using it keeps on failing the first months are fine but then you'll get lots of headaches from viruses and technical problems on pc's. i bought this old mac june last year and its amazing i haven't had any problems when it comes to hardwares especially in softwares :) can't wait to use my new g5 with 3.5 ram and heh only 2.7 dual but im ok with that i can't afford the monster quad. i'll check that bootcamp and see :thumbsup

tenderobject 04-20-2006 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azlord
If you are an experienced coder then check out BBEdit, or even switch to your PC mode and get EditPlus. If you want a WYSIWYG type program then go with Dreamweaver. If you are going to have a shitload of fonts or anything like that for design, then get SuitCase to manage your fonts. I have X1 and it works well. I would use FF for testing, the IE for mac is shitty, and Safari is much different than what you are coding for. There's like < 10% using mac, so again, switch over and test on a PC, in IE for the most part.

Transmit is better than fetch IMO. ummm... That's about it I think.

heh thats what im doing when designing a site. i'll check ie in mac (that shitty browser) safari is much better and firefox mac then check it on pc.. not that bad but sometimes it pisses me off. lol

tenderobject 04-20-2006 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kanalj
http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
so easy, just like the OSX.
*pet's his G5*


thanks bro. i have 2 in here i should sell the old one im broke :thumbsup

oh i forgot is it a free software?

edgeprod 04-20-2006 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azlord
If you are an experienced coder then check out BBEdit, or even switch to your PC mode and get EditPlus. If you want a WYSIWYG type program then go with Dreamweaver. If you are going to have a shitload of fonts or anything like that for design, then get SuitCase to manage your fonts. I have X1 and it works well. I would use FF for testing, the IE for mac is shitty, and Safari is much different than what you are coding for. There's like < 10% using mac, so again, switch over and test on a PC, in IE for the most part.

Transmit is better than fetch IMO. ummm... That's about it I think.

Yeah, I should definitely get FF. I love Safari, but I need FF for testing. Good call on SuitCase, I forgot how much people say it slows down with a lot of fonts.

And yeah, I love Transmit. I'm a convert. Bought it a few days ago.

kanalj 04-20-2006 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tenderobject
thanks bro. i have 2 in here i should sell the old one im broke :thumbsup

hey when I'm a big internetpimp lighting my Cuban cigars with $100 bills I'll by myself 10 mac's, one for each room.

right now being a poor semi macguru will have to do (easier being a mac then a pcguru ) ;)

edgeprod 04-20-2006 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tenderobject
you really got to love macs. very fast and stable. i've used windows before for designing and stuff after a months of using it keeps on failing the first months are fine but then you'll get lots of headaches from viruses and technical problems on pc's. i bought this old mac june last year and its amazing i haven't had any problems when it comes to hardwares especially in softwares :) can't wait to use my new g5 with 3.5 ram and heh only 2.7 dual but im ok with that i can't afford the monster quad. i'll check that bootcamp and see :thumbsup

I'd wait for the Intel Dual Core desktops ... instead of the G5's, so you can use bootcamp. I am 99% sure you need Intel hardware to make it work.

edgeprod 04-20-2006 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kanalj
hey when I'm a big internetpimp lighting my Cuban cigars with $100 bills I'll by myself 10 mac's, one for each room.

right now being a poor semi macguru will have to do (easier being a mac then a pcguru ) ;)

The Mini is like $800 for the version I got. Dual Core Intel, etc, etc. $600 more for 2GB of RAM (although it's only $200 if you do it yourself).

No biggie. My desktop (PC) was more like $12,000 if you include the LCD's and everything.


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