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Ordo 04-08-2006 04:48 PM

Bush impeachment starting?
 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060408/...h_vermont_dc_1

RANDOLPH, Vermont (Reuters) - Democratic Party leaders in Vermont on Saturday passed a motion asking Congress to immediately begin impeachment proceedings against President Bush.


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

madawgz 04-08-2006 04:49 PM

finally, fuck yeah!

Ordo 04-08-2006 05:06 PM

Why does this shit always go down two years before the end of a term when it takes two years to get anything done anyway??

Thats what pisses me off.

tony286 04-08-2006 05:14 PM

unless the 2006 election go well for the Dems it will never happen. Also when most news is so far to the right in the fight to out fair and balance each other.

G-Rotica 04-08-2006 05:15 PM

They can ask all they want. It'll never happen. Unfortunatley.

Damian_Maxcash 04-08-2006 05:21 PM

I dont know how all this works - does this actually mean anything?

I hope it does - as its on the Iraq war we could get our fuckwit PM on the same thing.

LittleMack 04-08-2006 05:28 PM

That is a very Liberal state legislature that has no jurisdiction over congress as a whole...it is just a protest vote...dont get too excited

nico-t 04-08-2006 05:49 PM

i dont think this means anyhting... if he'd be inpeached it wouldve happened a few years ago already.. way too late.

Snake Doctor 04-08-2006 06:05 PM

That'll only happen if the dems take control of the house AND the senate in 2006

Even then they wouldn't have the 2/3 necessary to vote him out, but they could embarrass the fuck out of him like the republicans did to Clinton.

Matt 26z 04-08-2006 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404
Also when most news is so far to the right in the fight to out fair and balance each other.

You may want to check out CNN and espeically MSNBC these days.

MSNBC execs were against too much anti-Republican honesty until they saw how much money those shows were starting to make. Now they have the green light to say what they want, and it's making for some good TV.

Lou Dobbs' new show on CNN I found to be a bit stunning in his brutal honesty of the government. This guy says things on TV that only alternative news sites have been saying.

Hardball with Chris Matthews has been getting more and more honest also. You can tell he's going to blow eventually and become a loose cannon.

Then there is Countdown with Keith Olbermann, who has all but said that Bush rigged the last election.

MSNBC spent signifigant time (entire shows) on the Bush leak story, but FOX was only reporting on it for 15-20 seconds in passing like it was nothing. So it appears that MSNBC is now to Dems what FOX is to neocons, the only difference is one is actually telling the truth.

Babagirls 04-08-2006 08:02 PM

now with that leak thats been exposed (that Bush did), i think that was the last straw. And so it begins.....

www.impeachbush.org :thumbsup

Damian_Maxcash 04-08-2006 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babagirls
now with that leak thats been exposed (that Bush did), i think that was the last straw. And so it begins.....

www.impeachbush.org :thumbsup

The 'Leak' wasnt illegal - if Bush authorised it then by default it became 'declassified'. Its one of his many powers - he can declassify anything any time he likes.

Linkster 04-08-2006 10:32 PM

Actually - the declassification wouldnt be what they would impeach for - it would either be the disclosure of a cia agents name(which is a completely different law and cant be declassified no matter what - even by the prez) or they will do the same thing they did to Clinton and go down the path of Bush's lying to the public(the public trust issue of the constitution is pretty specific) when he was talking about firing the originator of the leak all the while knowing it was himself

czarina 04-09-2006 12:16 AM

man, that would be nice! to see that f*cker go down like he deserves!

Greg B 04-09-2006 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ordo
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060408/...h_vermont_dc_1

RANDOLPH, Vermont (Reuters) - Democratic Party leaders in Vermont on Saturday passed a motion asking Congress to immediately begin impeachment proceedings against President Bush.


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh


President Bush is the 'Teflon' president. Nothing sticks to him. They can talk about impeachment all they want but so far legally he's been clean as a whistle and faultless to a 'T'. There's never been a president with as many accusations against him than GWB. He's been blamed for everything from two elections, two wars, hurricanes, tornadoes, global warming, athlete's feet etc.

Yet no major motions have ever been initiated that amounted to anything. He'll finish out his term, pass on the torch to one of his brothers and call it a fucking day.

Get used to it. He's gonna walk, write a book, get a library and some military craft named after him and grow an old fat rich man. He's still so young he'll be around for another 50 years talking about how he saved the free world from terrorism.

Greg B 04-09-2006 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster
Actually - the declassification wouldnt be what they would impeach for - it would either be the disclosure of a cia agents name(which is a completely different law and cant be declassified no matter what - even by the prez) or they will do the same thing they did to Clinton and go down the path of Bush's lying to the public(the public trust issue of the constitution is pretty specific) when he was talking about firing the originator of the leak all the while knowing it was himself

Correct. The President has final say as to what will be classified and declassified. It's been that way since I don't know when. Even if he did accidently name a CIA agent he won't get impeached. The American People are unconcerned with it.

Now if he had gotten a blow job the American People would have been up in arms. It's okay to fuck up national security but get a blow job? Fuck no! Get the rope and tar and feathers!

xclusive 04-09-2006 03:14 AM

Lets hope something good comes of this:)

Manowar 04-09-2006 03:17 AM

i doubt anything will though :/

BusterBunny 04-09-2006 03:20 AM

http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/e...rops/peach.jpg

jimthefiend 04-09-2006 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster
Actually - the declassification wouldnt be what they would impeach for - it would either be the disclosure of a cia agents name



Not even the guy in trouble for that is saying Bush had anything to do with it.



Nice try though you liberal fucking douchebag.

Matt 26z 04-09-2006 03:48 AM

The question is, do we want to risk having Dick Cheney as our president? If he took over power, that could also build momentum for him to run in 2008.

I'd only be for impeaching Bush if they could take Cheney down with him.

Matt 26z 04-09-2006 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimthefiend
Not even the guy in trouble for that is saying Bush had anything to do with it.

I thought he was saying that Bush told Cheney to tell him to tell the reporter.

I'm sure it actually went Rove > Bush > Cheney > Libby > Reporters

aico 04-09-2006 03:51 AM

I don't even think half you numbnuts even know what impeachment is... but keeping discussing it like you do.

ContentSHOOTER 04-09-2006 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico
I don't even think half you numbnuts even know what impeachment is... but keeping discussing it like you do.


Being that you know, why don't you inform us....

baddog 04-09-2006 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z
The question is, do we want to risk having Dick Cheney as our president? If he took over power, that could also build momentum for him to run in 2008.

I highly doubt Cheney has any interest in running in 2008

Scootermuze 04-09-2006 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
I highly doubt Cheney has any interest in running in 2008

Or any hope of winning if he had an interest...

He's the v.p. because Bush wanted a business guy that had money and
knew how to sneak outside of the box to benefit Bush and himself..

And remember.. he has no further ties with Haliburton.. Which is why they get all of the no-bid contracts.. Funny..

Not a chance in Hell for becoming the potus..

Linkster 04-09-2006 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimthefiend
Not even the guy in trouble for that is saying Bush had anything to do with it.
Nice try though you liberal fucking douchebag.

First off - If you knew me you would know that Im far from liberal and after serving in the US military for 12 years of my life I totally resent a scumbag teenybopper sigwhore who is probably 30 years younger than me even coming close to trying to dis me - but it did give me a great fucking laugh over coffee

As far as the "guy in trouble" you might want to do some research before you post BS
"According to court papers filed late Wednesday by Patrick J. Fitzgerald ? the special prosecutor investigating the leak of ex-CIA agent Valerie Plame's identity to the press ? Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, testified that, in the summer of 2003, his then-boss told him Bush had personally approved the leak of a highly classified National Intelligence Estimate to Judith Miller, then a reporter for the New York Times."

Quoted directly from http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...a-news-columns
although be careful as the LA Times has a few popups on their website

Damian_Maxcash 04-09-2006 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster
First off - If you knew me you would know that Im far from liberal and after serving in the US military for 12 years of my life I totally resent a scumbag teenybopper sigwhore who is probably 30 years younger than me even coming close to trying to dis me - but it did give me a great fucking laugh over coffee

As far as the "guy in trouble" you might want to do some research before you post BS
"According to court papers filed late Wednesday by Patrick J. Fitzgerald ? the special prosecutor investigating the leak of ex-CIA agent Valerie Plame's identity to the press ? Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, testified that, in the summer of 2003, his then-boss told him Bush had personally approved the leak of a highly classified National Intelligence Estimate to Judith Miller, then a reporter for the New York Times."

Quoted directly from http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...a-news-columns
although be careful as the LA Times has a few popups on their website

lol I have heard JimtheFiend called a lot of things - but "teenybopper" isnt one of them - lol :1orglaugh

Greg B 04-09-2006 08:34 AM

Cheney would make a fine President. Nothing sticks to him either. His health may be the major blocking point though but with these new stem cell treatments who knows he may be back to normal in no time. Look at singer Don Ho. Went to Thailand last December and is back jamming on the stage after being at death's door.

Linkster 04-09-2006 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damian2001
lol :1orglaugh

Hey Damian :) Sure would love to get over there and get a few dozen pints with ya :thumbsup

Webby 04-09-2006 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg B
President Bush is the 'Teflon' president. Nothing sticks to him.


Cummon Greg.. what ya smokin?? :winkwink:

The Teflon must be defective or something cause shit has already stuck and, only my :2 cents: worth - but ya ain't seen nothing yet.

DaddyHalbucks 04-09-2006 09:34 AM

Absolutely ridiculous.

1. Vermont state officials have no jurisdiction/ authority.

2. You don't impeach a President because you don't like his policies. Impeachment is for "high crimes and misdemeanors," such as Clinton's lying to a grand jury, perjury, subornation of perjury, obstruction of justice, witness tampering, filing a false affidavit, etc..

Bush is doing his best to protect US.

Webby 04-09-2006 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg B
Cheney would make a fine President. Nothing sticks to him either.


Damn.. must be good stuff you got there! :1orglaugh

You are talking about a guy who decieved and lied to the people who elected him - and continued to lie even after everyone knew what he said was untrue. And... bet ya ask Cheney today - he would still continue his spewage of lies, but never ever giving any foundation for them.

Fine President's are made of better stuff and have some credibility and honor.

Greg B 04-09-2006 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby
Damn.. must be good stuff you got there! :1orglaugh

You are talking about a guy who decieved and lied to the people who elected him - and continued to lie even after everyone knew what he said was untrue. And... bet ya ask Cheney today - he would still continue his spewage of lies, but never ever giving any foundation for them.

Fine President's are made of better stuff and have some credibility and honor.

Puleeeze! It's been 6 years already and Bush and Cheney ain't got pinched for shit yet. Every other fucking day someone comes up with a new charge or accusation and don't squat happen. He's almost got 2 years to go and you think they'll try to pin something on him after all this time? If they did it would be too late anyway. The damage is already done. There's no way in hell a Democrat is going to win the next election because they're all pussies and would end up taxing us to death for social program shit.

The next Republican President will pardon Bush and Cheney and that will be fucking that.

The time to bust Bush should have been after the first election, after the minute they didn't find WMD in Iraq. Nobody did shit so fuck it, he walks. Even if he was guilty to accuse him of shit now and initiate something shows the opposition is too slow, too incompetent or just vindictive.

Get used to it, Liberals lost because they don't have the balls to fight back.

directfiesta 04-09-2006 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg B
Puleeeze! It's been 6 years already and Bush and Cheney ain't got pinched for shit yet. Every other fucking day someone comes up with a new charge or accusation and don't squat happen. He's almost got 2 years to go and you think they'll try to pin something on him after all this time? If they did it would be too late anyway. The damage is already done. There's no way in hell a Democrat is going to win the next election because they're all pussies and would end up taxing us to death for social program shit.

The next Republican President will pardon Bush and Cheney and that will be fucking that.

The time to bust Bush should have been after the first election, after the minute they didn't find WMD in Iraq. Nobody did shit so fuck it, he walks. Even if he was guilty to accuse him of shit now and initiate something shows the opposition is too slow, too incompetent or just vindictive.

Get used to it, Liberals lost because they don't have the balls to fight back.


100 % right... it is pathetic .

Ordo 04-09-2006 10:34 AM

Jesus,
I woke up with a hangover, checked my emails and found a ton of affiliate signups. Came to GFY to see what was up and saw this thread booming!

haha

Thanks guys!

And to those who still seem brainwashed into supporting Bush, please look at the very top of this web page....

:winkwink:

Webby 04-09-2006 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg B
Puleeeze! It's been 6 years already and Bush and Cheney ain't got pinched for shit yet. Every other fucking day someone comes up with a new charge or accusation and don't squat happen. He's almost got 2 years to go and you think they'll try to pin something on him after all this time? If they did it would be too late anyway. The damage is already done. There's no way in hell a Democrat is going to win the next election because they're all pussies and would end up taxing us to death for social program shit.

The next Republican President will pardon Bush and Cheney and that will be fucking that.

The time to bust Bush should have been after the first election, after the minute they didn't find WMD in Iraq. Nobody did shit so fuck it, he walks. Even if he was guilty to accuse him of shit now and initiate something shows the opposition is too slow, too incompetent or just vindictive.

Get used to it, Liberals lost because they don't have the balls to fight back.

Greg... to be honest it's past the stage of political leanings. I don't really care who is in power, be they conservative, democrat or communist.

Least for me, it has *everything* to do with fairly serving the people who elected them and conducting the biz of government in a competent manner for the benefit of the nation as a whole.

This current US Admin have got to be the worst (not sure about the worst in US history), but certainly the worst within a long time.

They have proven themselves to be very incompetent at managing the US and have literally locked themselves into a political closet in the Whitehouse and avoid any public appearances unless there is an agenda where they may be losing. Then they send out the closet team to appear on television and spew garbage.

Admins who operate on the basis of closet politics and secrecy are not democratic admins.

The flip side is, - almost all current US politicians (tho there are many good men there) are an utter disgrace to the electorate - irrespective of their political views. It may be the Admin who supposed to be taking the lead and open to most criticism, but they sure are not supported by qualified, strong partners in houses of govt.

It also does not help when a government/nation is sharply split over political leanings. Bottom line - it's all bullshit and not in the interests of the nation as a whole.

On the current Admin, their problems are of their own making. When ya make a judgement and it turns out widely distorted (whether intentional or not), there is always a payback time and shit comes back to haunt ya. It can never actually be swept under the carpet as a "mistake".

On the "management" side, it could not be worse - but got a feeling we are gonna see far worse yet.

Since George took office he has rarely addressed any domestic issues with any success. The economy is the worst ever, - the same can he said for health, education and down the list. The international reputation of the US could prob not be lower.

Although the admin likes to portray an image of protecting the US - basically they can't. No government on this planet can protect against eg acts of terrorism. The concept that "we are under threat" is used (abused) by the admin to create paranoia - as tho the US was the first country on the planet to experience terrorism.

It's also astounding that the US government appears incapable of even aiding their own citizens in disaster relief and restoring their own territory back to an operational status after a hurricane. Third world countries have recovered quicker - and collected the bodies from under the rubble.

Hell.. save writing all this shit... Here's a list of "achievements" from another thread....

~First president in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.

~In his first two years in office, over 2 million Americans lost their jobs.

~Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history.

~Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.

~Cut the taxes of the wealthiest people in America (those making over $200,000 a year).

~Members of Bush Administration are the richest administration in history.

~First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in U.S. history.

~Cut unemployment benefits for more out-of-work Americans than any president in U.S. history.

~Dissolved more international treaties than any president in U.S. history.

~Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases.

~First president in U.S. history to attack a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community.

~Took the biggest world sympathy for the U.S. after 9/11, and in less than a year, made the U.S. the most resented country in the world.

~First U.S. president in history to have a majority of people in Europe (over 70%) view his presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.

~In the 18 months following the 9/11 attacks, he has successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States.

Whether you agree/dispute these points, it still remains an utter disaster area. It's hard to say the actual government at this time have the interests of the US people at heart. It's almost as tho they are hell bent on obliterating the US.

Bottom line... a massive load of damage been done and there will be a payback time. It will be paid for by the US taxpayer, the lives of people in other countries, US forces serving abroad, by those swindled out of pensions etc etc. Got little doubts there will be some mass lifestyle changes as well resulting from the baggage left over by this admin.

Do Bush and Cheney matter? Not really - this happened on their watch and suspect there will be repercussions, - but otherwise they are not relevant. The damage far supercedes the relevance of a few individuals.

Forget personalities in politics - they all bullshit and lie - it's who manages a country with some competence that matters. Competence is something severely lacking at this time.

fris 04-09-2006 11:15 AM

bush is an assclown

Paraskass 04-09-2006 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster
Bush's lying to the public(the public trust issue of the constitution is pretty specific) when he was talking about firing the originator of the leak all the while knowing it was himself

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

what an asshat bush it.
fucking dumb born again.

pornguy 04-09-2006 11:23 AM

The sad thing is, that several articles of the partiot act can actually be used to arrest the people that started this.


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