Start thinking like a webmaster when looking at posted models pics
 

It happens all too often... some content provider posts a few shots of his latest model, and asks "what do you think?" Even if he says "would you hit it?", he's not really asking if you would or wouldn't. What he really wants to find out is if anyone is interested in buying her content. Sometimes he's interested in gaining some new affiliates who will promote his site with her in it.

I realize there are a lot of surfers here who can't help but think like surfers, but time and time again I see people who profess to be webmasters making comments like "she's okay but not my type"... or "she's ugly, no way I'd touch her".... or "I would SOOO hit that!"

My point: Who cares whether you'd hit it or not? No one. Real webmasters look at content shots and think one thing and one thing only---- is she marketable?... that's it.

Ugly --- irrelivant.
Fat? -- so what?
Is she as hot as your girlfriend? -- also irrelivant.
Would you do her anyway? -- absolutely and unequivocally irrelivant.

Can you sell her? --- this is a webmaster question.

Do I have enough skill to market her properly and make money from this content? --- there you go. Now you're asking the right kind of questions.


Remember: Average, quirky, alternative-looking girls will always have an audience. Just because *you* find her unattractive, doesn't negate the fact that there are 10,000,000 guys out there who would break out the plastic and the lube for her.

Want to be a better webmaster? Start thinking like one.

and where did the human face of porn peddling go?

Ctrl +P , print

i'd hit it

Most excellent post!

Well said. :thumbsup

HitIt threads get lots of replies. :)
Easy advertising for content providers and aff.programs.
I wish a "Would you hit this script?" threads got that much attention :)

shit, and I always thought posting a "would you hit it" threads was just a gimmick to get some surfers to sign up for their paysites...

If they ever do you can rest assured some of us will be thinking like webmasters there too.

I'd hit it. :thumbsup

Edit: Damn someone said that already.... um, Sig spot? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh ? This thread is useless without pics?

"My point: Who cares whether you'd hit it or not? No one. Real webmasters look at content shots and think one thing and one thing only---- is she marketable?... that's it.

Ugly --- irrelivant.
Fat? -- so what?
Is she as hot as your girlfriend? -- also irrelivant.
Would you do her anyway? -- absolutely and unequivocally irrelivant.

Can you sell her? --- this is a webmaster question."



Real Shooters, look at her, and ask themselves, "Will Somebody, Buy It." Both the girl, and the type of content. WE don't care if you don't like redheads, we know that Redheads sell. Maybe not to you....

But the point is this ain't a dating service...

When a content shooter posts a pic, howabout dropping the "I'd hit it," in favor of....

"I'll buy that, it will convert/retain on my site(s)."

That gives some feedback, we all can benefit from.

If you wouldn't buy it, is it the model, the lighting, the price, etc, what is wrong with the deal? And if it is the model, just state the flaw, or it's a personal preference thing.

CD, great thread.

Hey, I can't buy every content set that comes out. :) Don't complain about the free bumps.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You are correct CD Smith. Unfortunately, nothing you are saying matters to people in the Philipines with 100+ posts per day.

My hormones always seem to take over

Great post, CDSmith. While my reply in said threads may be hormone driven, in the back of my mind, I'm always thinking whether or not I can sell it.

true dat homie :thumbsup

Many webmasters still don't understand that people like different tastes, and another thing what a webmaster says he likes on a board is proably way different then what he would sign up for himself if he was a surfer. Many guys like curvy and fat chicks but deny it

some of us have no intention of shooting any girls, and don't plan on selling any girls

i work on my wife's site, 24/7...so when someone posts a pic of another girl, the only thing that comes to my mind is "is she hot? would I fuck her?"

i could care less about any girl, but my wife, being marketable

Then you would be what is known as "the exception". Of course, you can still think like a webmaster anyway, but that's really your choice.

For the rest of us who are webmasters of a broader spectrum, the above applies, and hopefully most will take it as sound advice.

Hey jerkoff, ALL PORN IS MARKETABLE .

Your a real fuckin tool u know that?

Im not here to have shit crammed down my throat.

Wanna find suckers to market your shit, go somewhere else .

And btw, you have to be a real pathetic poor excuse for an entreprenuer to pitch your shit here.

posting like your on forbes 500 list....fuck outta here ya bootleg money maker.

" if ya wanna be a webmaster, think like me and stay on gfy to search for material to market."

can i see a pic of your wife?
lemme see if i can market her

Good input. :thumbsup

Hey CD....C Deez NUTS!


another jerkoff.

If your on here pitching content that you yourself cant fuckin sell or dont know if its marketable, WHY THE FUCK WOULD I WANNA PAY YOU FOR IT Mr" elite of the elite webmaster/photographer

if your here pitching it , means you aint shit.
tells me you arent as successful as you claim to be
tells me your a fuckin tool trying to make a fast buck

THATS HOW A WEBMASTER THINKS!

fuckin jerkoff:1orglaugh

Oh. I see the latest group-user trolling account has been activated. *rolls eyes* You'd think they'd get tired of that around here...

Great post as usual, CD:thumbsup

how is this babe for sales? shot this a little while ago . . along with some hardcore sex. .

http://www.wantontalk.com/images/misty1.jpg

are you trying to tell us something here badog?

She deserves her own thread, that's for sure.

:thumbsup

She OR he. :)

We shoot both female and male - and although I'm aware there's not a hella lot of interest on GFY for the male content, I still post a few occasionally in hopes of eliciting an industry comment or two.

So while some folks detest a male pic being posted - I could care less since I know that what I shoot converts. Its too bad more people don't view it from that perspective and make related content inquiries.

The problem with most webmasters is simple. They come from a computer back ground and not a porn one. I've spent time with the owners of Karups, Alsscan, Sapphic Erotica, Teendreams and a few more and they all have one thing in common. More knowledge of porn than computers.

When we do a casting the only thing we think about is how much can we make from the girl? Yes every girl will sell and a few fools have pointed it out, but if you want to utilise all your marketing skills on a girl who will sell to 1 in 100 instead of a girl who will sell 100 in 100 go and do it. Always take into balance the number of people who will be pushing the site along side you.

This girl [url-http://www.paulmarkham.com/content.php?modelId=419]Christine [/url] consistently sells and sells. She sells on the content store, she sells on the paysite and she sells on the FHGs. A dam site better than any of the "Exclusive never seen before" stuff.

Wanton nice girl and I would calculate probably worth to us, $25,000 in sales over a period. Christine made us nearly that figure in one day. Misty is nice but not special. Special is tough to find and you know that, but when you do it's gold dust time.

Buy content on the basis of it's effect to those who pay for porn and not those who want a cheap thrill and you will win.

That is so true, that is very well said, good one.:thumbsup

Fucked up on the coding so try this one.

This girl Christine consistently sells and sells. She sells on the content store, she sells on the paysite and she sells on the FHGs. A dam site better than any of the "Exclusive never seen before" stuff.

*claps* and I am not being sarcastic. Excellent post. I actually find myself walking around in public looking at new faces and thinking "how would i market her" I have caught myself doing this more than a few times. Talked to my girl about it and we had a good laugh.

With girls for my paysites I wouldn't use a girl who I didn't think was hot myself. I work with a lot of agencies and studios and they are always sending me sample of new girls that want to model for our site. But if I don't think the girl is hot I won't book her for a shoot.

I discovered a girl in a club about 2 years ago that had never done modelling before, I was pissed up and went over to try to pull her and got knocked back so asked if she fancied doing some modelling instead, she took a business card and phoned a few days later. I figured I wanted to see her naked even if I had to pay for it ;-)

She now has a sucessfull career as a mainstream model here in the UK after doing some shoots with us and can now earn several $1000 per shoot working as a promotional model for kawasaki and doesn't even need to take her clothes off!
Here is the link to her portfolio
themodelsclub.co.uk/glamour/models/scotland/christina-rodgers/about.html

She is away from modelling at the moment unfortunatly as she has just had a baby but promises to come back to it once she is back in shape again.

good stuff

Many do, yes. Many also have only their own personal porn-viewing to draw from, having been spanking it to it for so many years, thus they can't help but view everything from their own perspective. But there are those webmasters who learned early-on to look at pics of models in a different way.

Knowing your own sites and the preferences of your surfers is valuable knowledge.

Your agenda is different from the multitude of webmasters I'm addressing here Paul. You being a recruiter, photographer and content producer, the goal of your company is to score a certain level of quality. I on the other hand am talking about webmasters who, like myself, run all sorts of sites..... amateur, teen amateurs, girl-next-door, goth, plumpers, fetish, voyeur, MILF, grannies, ebony, tranny, and a 1000 other niches. We HAVE to look at models in a slightly different way than you Paul. However, both look at a girl and consider whether or not she would do well within their business model.

That is well said, and I could not agree more. However, those "cheap thrill" seekers do still buy memberships.

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http://christinarodgers.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/

Wow, nice rack!

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And I did point out a few that do have the experience, sorry if I made it sound like these the only ones.

Do you honestly think I would have lasted nearly three decades by not catering to what the end user wants? I'm still selling to the same companies I was selling to at nearly the beginning of my career. do you think they would keep buying from me because I get an image in focus and properly exposed? :upsidedow

I specialise in a few niches, Teen, Girl-Next-Door, Amateur, Readers Wives, being the main ones. I do so because I do not have a clue how to shoot or market as many niches as you do. I also have a paysite that is going very, very well with little effort.

Very true, but do they buy it very often and do they buy the average stuff that's put out?

It seems you missed my point and still looked at it from a webmasters perspective.

What I'm saying is, if you want to sell porn well and make a lot of money you have to get the porn right. Because no matter how well you apply all your marketing and traffic skills if at the end of the day the porn does not do it you're going to struggle.

Luckily for me some people do not understand the difference between smoking hot and tepid, as you point out, and have to spread themselves to make the same impact.

you forgot, "see sig" and "this thread is gay":1orglaugh :1orglaugh

My wife and I do that constantly as well. The Niagara Falls area where we live is excellent for that - massive crowds during the summer months, skimpy outfits...plus the mist from the Falls is great for soaking babes with white t-shirts. :1orglaugh

But its a good place to sometimes meet potential models. Sometimes we'll just spend an afternoon down there sittin' in the sun, watching people and occasionally introducing ourselves with a business card. Its led to working with several good models over the years.

It's difficult sometimes to type out everything one means and wants to say. Were we to have this conversation in person there would be a lot less confusion I'm sure.

Yes, you cater to the end user of course, but your target audience isn't exactly the same as mine. I have surfers who love amateur material shot by boyfriends and husbands using digital cameras and bad lighting and techniques. I have extreme fetish surfers who simply aren't interested in girls who have the kind of beauty that you like to shoot Paul. I was merely trying to point out the slight difference and also the similarity between the two business models.

Don't sell yourself short. I'm sure that if you were to ever delv into other niches you would soon clue in to what those surfers really want as well. This touches on the essential point of this thread.... it's about having the ability as a webmaster to listen to the surfer, and being able to find what they are most interested in. That means viewing content shots as content... and not "would I hit it" :D

That's just it... those looking for specific stuff aren't interested in "average stuff".... but trust me, some of these extreme niches, when properly marketed, can see some pretty amazing ratios. Granted, traffic levels are usually small, but so what? 1:40 to 1:80.. are not unheard of. Some do even better than that.

Yes. But get the porn right according to who? That's my point Paul... most guys think only about their own personal tastes. I'm suggesting they start thinking in a broader sense, and consider what their target audience is interested in.... and I call this the webmaster's perspective.

Finding your target and focussing on hitting it 100% isn't a bad thing, and you are living proof of that. If my being "spread out" helps your cause, I can certainly say the reverse is true. :D

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