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Babagirls 02-08-2006 03:40 PM

will this industry every see the day where theres no more MIN PAYOUTS?
 
I know affiliate programs gotta "make their money", but just like you (program owners) want the money you make, we affilates want the money we make too. I dont care if its $15 or $100..i made it, i want it.

< /end of dream >

:(

Pete-KT 02-08-2006 03:42 PM

most programs if you contact them will pay u your balance

luv$ 02-08-2006 03:44 PM

I think instant payouts as a standard would be better...

Lace 02-08-2006 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv$
I think instant payouts as a standard would be better...

Now thats thinking! :thumbsup


I believe flashcash has that, don't they?

StuartD 02-08-2006 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv$
I think instant payouts as a standard would be better...

heh, people hate to wait for email these days. What? Instant mail? Screw that, i want instant messages! I need to know 5 minutes ago!!!!

So yeah, instant payouts would be where it's at for sure.

AdultInsider Cloner 02-08-2006 03:47 PM

well, for some amounts it just doesn't make sense, especially when people request wires......paying $20 for a $15 wire transfer is just illogical

BradM 02-08-2006 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lace
Now thats thinking! :thumbsup


I believe flashcash has that, don't they?

www.fastsize.com/webmasters/
:)

Babagirls 02-08-2006 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultInsider Cloner
well, for some amounts it just doesn't make sense, especially when people request wires......paying $20 for a $15 wire transfer is just illogical


well duh lol ;) i agree thats retarded
but to have options like:

Epass ($2 fee)-no min payout
Check-no min payout
*Wire-$50 min earnings required

:thumbsup

Matt 26z 02-08-2006 03:56 PM

What burns me is when they've got a $100 min payment, but it took a poor ratio to get the first sale or two. It's just not worth it to try and make the rest.

The Duck 02-08-2006 03:57 PM

thats an excellent idea imo

Babagirls 02-08-2006 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete-KT
most programs if you contact them will pay u your balance

ill request from various sponsors i have unpaid money with, and i'll list here who pays and who doesnt.

KRL 02-08-2006 04:03 PM

Highly doubtful. Affiliate companies make a lot of profit with this scam. They know most affiliates eventually forget about it and never collect their comms.

adultchica 02-08-2006 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babagirls
well duh lol ;) i agree thats retarded
but to have options like:

Epass ($2 fee)-no min payout
Check-no min payout
*Wire-$50 min earnings required

:thumbsup

I absolutely agree with this. :thumbsup Minimum payouts can be truly annoying.

adultchica 02-08-2006 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL
Highly doubtful. Affiliate companies make a lot of profit with this scam. They know most affiliates eventually forget about it and never collect their comms.

I've thought of this too. I won't say the name of the program, but it is a 500$ minimum payout and I'm laughing at that because I only get limited traffic to the niches that it caters and I'm going to be waiting years for the money I've got lol :1orglaugh

fuzebox 02-08-2006 04:39 PM

I know for a fact that a few programs factor carrying the balance of affiliates who have not made the minimums into their cashflow...

Baker Rd 02-08-2006 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z
What burns me is when they've got a $100 min payment, but it took a poor ratio to get the first sale or two. It's just not worth it to try and make the rest.

This is exactly why min payouts are in place

FlyingIguana 02-08-2006 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z
What burns me is when they've got a $100 min payment, but it took a poor ratio to get the first sale or two. It's just not worth it to try and make the rest.

lol they always seem to be shitty sites as well. i typically use the $100 min as a proxy for, 'our sites suck so bad we know you'll never hit the min'

Sly 02-08-2006 04:48 PM

Throughout the year I really don't care, but it would be nice if at the end of the sponsors fiscal year they sent out checks with the remaining balance, even if it is only $20.

Babagirls 02-08-2006 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly
Throughout the year I really don't care, but it would be nice if at the end of the sponsors fiscal year they sent out checks with the remaining balance, even if it is only $20.

that i wouldnt mind either.

Rui 02-08-2006 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z
What burns me is when they've got a $100 min payment, but it took a poor ratio to get the first sale or two. It's just not worth it to try and make the rest.

Yep, I lost count of how many unused affiliate accounts I got that I stopped pushing (and were left with money)

Instant payouts in this bussiness is a risky thing to say the least!

Furious_Female 02-08-2006 04:54 PM

There's probably 20 or 30 sponsors over the past 6 years that I have small balances with that I will never get because I don't even remember my login names/emails for them, even *if* I wanted to send them traffic to reach the minimum payout. :Oh crap

Jimmy The Juggernaut 02-08-2006 04:55 PM

yea

sponsors need to stop fucking shaving their affiliates and being so deceptive.

this is a message to all the crooked program owners out there. FUCK YOU

Babagirls 02-08-2006 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyingIguana
lol they always seem to be shitty sites as well. i typically use the $100 min as a proxy for, 'our sites suck so bad we know you'll never hit the min'

exactly. and to prove that statement...
(min payout from this sponsor is $100)

http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/1116/coins6xd.jpg

:disgust

Furious_Female 02-08-2006 04:58 PM

On another note, the week or 2 week lag is getting old when waiting to get paid for sales you sent and reached the min. payout for.

Most other jobs pay you at the end of your work week or bi monthly without a holding period... every sponsor should do the same. We work, we want to get paid. For example: www.webcams.com/affiliate - their week is Sunday through Saturday and you get paid the very next monday (2 days after the period ends) and $40 trials to boot! ... excellent program :thumbsup

Sly 02-08-2006 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babagirls
exactly. and to prove that statement...
(min payout from this sponsor is $100)

http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/1116/coins6xd.jpg

:disgust

I don't have very good numbers with them either, though I do suck with that niche.

BSleazy 02-08-2006 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babagirls
I know affiliate programs gotta "make their money", but just like you (program owners) want the money you make, we affilates want the money we make too. I dont care if its $15 or $100..i made it, i want it.

< /end of dream >

:(

The program in your sig has a $100 mininum payout. I sent them 2 signups at the end of 2004 and haven't been payed :)

Sly 02-08-2006 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Furious_Female
On another note, the week or 2 week lag is getting old when waiting to get paid for sales you sent and reached the min. payout for.

Most other jobs pay you at the end of your work week or bi monthly without a holding period... every sponsor should do the same. We work, we want to get paid. For example: www.webcams.com/affiliate - their week is Sunday through Saturday and you get paid the very next monday (2 days after the period ends) and $40 trials to boot! ... excellent program :thumbsup

Bad comparison.

We aren't employees. We are basically sub-contracters. If you really wanted to be like "every other company", then we would need to send an invoice to the sponsor every 2 weeks and then wait another month or so for payment.

I'm fine with the lag. Its faster then most every other b2b business.

phogirl69 02-08-2006 05:03 PM

I hate getting a bunch of small checks for small amounts like $35 or so, I'm really lazy to go to the bank, I only go once in a blue moon and it's a pain to add up a bunch of small checks so you have a big stack that hard to fit in the atm machine slot, I'd rather wait and get one big check than a bunch of smaller ones. 500 min payout is ridiculous, but 100 is more than fine i think.

Babagirls 02-08-2006 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCyber
The program in your sig has a $100 mininum payout.

not ALL $100 min payout programs are bad.

but some programs are so shitty and their sites dont convert for shit.

Babagirls 02-08-2006 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phogirl69
I hate getting a bunch of small checks for small amounts like $35 or so, I'm really lazy to go to the bank, I only go once in a blue moon and it's a pain to add up a bunch of small checks so you have a big stack that hard to fit in the atm machine slot, I'd rather wait and get one big check than a bunch of smaller ones.

so then collect all the small checks and cashem one day, every week. problem solved.

phogirl69 02-08-2006 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babagirls
so then collect all the small checks and cashem one day, every week. problem solved.

I am too lazy to even go to the bank once a week, thats how bad my laziness is getting. Sometimes I don't go for 1-2 and a half months :helpme , webmastering is making me super super SUPER lazy to the point where I don't even want to go to the grocery store, thinking of having it delivered, or my boyfriend buys it most of the time.

I am so lazy my contact lenses expired October of last year and I haven't even gone to the eye doctor to get new ones, thats how bad it is :helpme By the time I wake up i dont have time to get ready and get there...

Nismo 02-08-2006 05:10 PM

I have like 4 programs right now that I gotta start promoting to get a check cut. I've got like $35 in the balance and need 2 more signups just to get my checks. :( I stopped promoting them due to shitty sales ratios, but regardless, im still gonna promote them until I get my checks. I'm not gonna leave money behind.

Dollarmansteve 02-08-2006 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv$
I think instant payouts as a standard would be better...

This is not very good accounting practice. The sponsor program doesnt receive the money instantly once the transaction is processed (specifically when using a 3rd party to process transactions), so it does not make any sense to have an instant payout. Not to mention the obvious fraud risk - the sponsor would have no time to detect fraud and would expose themself to an undue amount of risk. There is also the issue of transaction cost - more frequent payments means more payout transactions, and those transactions cost money.

Many sponsors have minimum payouts of $100, which is about 4 sales. If you arent making 4 sales per pay period (for weekly payouts and $30 pps this is round about a sale every other day) then the minimum payout level is the least of your problems.

Furious_Male 02-08-2006 05:40 PM

Just email them and let them know your traffic isnt working with the sites they have. Request the payment owed and close the account. I am sure most reputable programs would be more then happy to take care of it.

After Shock Media 02-08-2006 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Furious_Female
On another note, the week or 2 week lag is getting old when waiting to get paid for sales you sent and reached the min. payout for.

Most other jobs pay you at the end of your work week or bi monthly without a holding period... every sponsor should do the same. We work, we want to get paid. For example: www.webcams.com/affiliate - their week is Sunday through Saturday and you get paid the very next monday (2 days after the period ends) and $40 trials to boot! ... excellent program :thumbsup

They do?
I am pretty used to seeing people get paid weekly or bi-weekly from jobs yes, but they also do not get their first paycheck until they have been there two weeks for weekly or a month for bi-weekly. So in effect they are always a week to two weeks behind. People just may not notice after a few weeks or so.

I know I have a check delays with ccbill, though I also still get checks each week. So after some time you really do not notice this way either.

BSleazy 02-08-2006 05:51 PM

See sig for INSTANT PAYOUTS as low as $20 :)

Babagirls 02-08-2006 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCyber
See sig for INSTANT PAYOUTS as low as $20 :)

ya know, i just may start to push flashcash.
i have heard nothing but absolute great things about them. :thumbsup
instant payouts would kick ass!

polish_aristocrat 02-08-2006 05:54 PM

why do you people sign up to so many programs? :)

Tempest 02-08-2006 05:55 PM

I really hate the $100 minimums with some companies.. Shouldn't be more than $50.. I find the $25 ones actually iritate me when you get small cheques. The worst are the BossHawg programs with their damn $200 minimums.. On the older programs that aren't converting very well it can take 3+ months to make that.

John69 02-08-2006 05:58 PM

this is one of the best posts i have seen on here!

$25.00 should be the min, not $100.00 +

this is for check payouts.


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