Crosby aint got SHIT on Ovechkin
 

Maan did you guys see that goal last night versus pheonix. Please crosby dosent compare to this kid !

Did you see Crosby's goal early in the ear from his knees behind the goal?

that was nuts...lets not forget he is 2 years older though

Dion Phaneuf will do more for his team though...defence wins championships not 1 way offense only players...although they are fun to watch

please crosby is a joke

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4 more days by the way til NBC.

he is a diver, whiner, but has offensive skills

Yeah that russian kid is a real deal, he's got mad skillz.

ya man his fuckin sik, when he finishes his rookie contract his guna make maddddddddddd CASHHHHHH $$$$

russian hockey school - Kovalchuk, Ovechkin... they're young, smart, have a great skills and incredible future at NHL

pierre dagenais
 

pierre dagenais from the montreal canadiens is the future of hockey. hes not the best skater, in fact, most of the time he cant keep his 2 skates on the ice, but he's got a big heart, and most important, loves poutine.

His goal against Phoenix was the BEST EVER. No doubt.

It's only January but that's the play of the year, unless an outfielder nabs a ball in his jockstrap, a wide receiver catches a pass with his big toes or a point guard scores from the dressing room.

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For those that have yet to see it, check out the clip at ESPN:

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/...1_r1_mm otion


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Might take a couple years for Crosby to get into the groove..The kid will come around

yup I agree they are both good
keep in mind crosbys age though, and the team he is on (sure there are some "big names" but not many real play makers, no one is performing). Crosby plays more of a canadian style, and he can set plays up well. Ovechkin would do horrible if he played on an elite team, last time I checked he was almost leading the league in shots on net.

Phanieuf (sp) is great, more valuable to his team? Not too sure about that.. calgary is already a really defensive team. They are bottom 3 in the league for scoring. Imagine what they could do with another 90 points or so from crosby or ovechkin.

I'd have to say Ovechkin is pretty much a total game-breaker.

His hat-trick the other night single-handedly sunk my Ducks....and that Phoenix goal, while partially lucky, was AMAZING :thumbsup

The thing is, he basically plays with zero Caps support. He also plays physical and hits like a train, something very rare with scorers of his talent level.

I do think, in two years he will still be way ahead of Crosby. Although Crosby will probably be better than he is so far this year then, Ovechkin will also have more NHL experience in the same way.

As far as Phaneuf goes, defence does count, but I'd take Ovechkin over Phaneuf any day of the week. It'd be fun to see though, out of 10 tries, how many times Ovechkin would beat Phaneuf one-on-one.

As for Ovechkin doing worse if he had better players with him, I really doubt that. With other threats, it would give him more space as well taking away some of the double-teaming on him (or leaving someone else open for the pass then).

the only hockey that is worth watching is during the playoffs

I don't understand the language.

First : They both rock ... about same level... saying you can't compare them is just dumb.

2nd : He's 2 years older then Crosby. Compare both in 2 years from now ;)

Yeap he rocks too ... 3 great future superstar in the making this year. this is fun to watch

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Here is a rope, please hang yourself.

You are talking about 2 years ago ... hockey looks like the playoff in the regular seasons now ... The playoffs will be off the hook.

I meant more value to any team...GREAT defencemen are very hard to find and usually take alot longer than forwards to play at the next level. Not to knock the 2 offensive guys but most of their goals come when there team is already down by 5 goals, its alot harder to score in tight games.

all 3 are great, also svatos in colorado

haha yeah no shit...pierre dagenais, the future of hockey LOOOOL....

I dont even think he's with the habs anymore...

Seen it many times on the sportcenter highlights.. goal of the year no doubt.

Crosby will never have Ovechkin's wrist shot or slap shot, he will never be physical and dynamic as AO. He does have great vision and passing game, other than that Crosby is not even close to Ovechkin.

Being a Caps fan I am biased naturally towards Ovechkin, but he, Crosby, Phaneuf and Svatos in Colorado are all sensational rookies an in an ordinary year would all be front runners for the Calder. With the lockout last year, there are a lot of guys this year who would have been rookies last year (like Ovechkin.) Ovechkin should win the Calder, mostly because he is a year ahead of Crosby, being a year older. Of course, while Crosby was playing for Rimouski in the Quebec league (and dominating like a man playing in a Pee-wee league), Ovechkin was playing in the Russian Elite League and was a 3 year veteran...he was getting more out of his playing time to be sure.

I suspect that Crosby will be collecting MVP trophies later in the decade and the Ovechkin will be collecting Richard awards for leading the league in goals. Plus, I think it is more likely that Ovechkin will win the Cup (in Washington) before Crosby, as the Caps have been building a young team with a bunch of pretty good players (no superstars that's AO's job.) while the Pens are an older team that may not even be in Pittsburgh by 2008. (Kansas City Penguins anyone? How about Portland? Oklahoma City? Las Vegas?)

well said, sounds about right to me! :thumbsup

All are really good my only question is how in the world did colorado get such a talented rookie? they have been one of the top team for several years now....

diamond in the rough...lots of the best players are drafted late or even un-drafted

hockey is more than a highlight reel...

Colorado has been cranking out talented kids for a decade... check the recent Caldter trophy winners, there was a stretch of 3 or 4 years where they had 3 winners, all the while they were winning Stanley Cups. They were letting their kids develop in the minors as they didn't need them right away (they were already loaded) while bad teams like Phoenix, Columbus, etc. were puting 18 year olds in the NHL...

That, and Colorado spends more on scouting than any other team in the league...

Ovechkin's goal was a beauty BUT the hype that it is one of the greatest goals in history is ridiculous - he beat exactly ONE defenseman on that play and it wasn't all that great a move - the wild swipe he took at the puck while sliding prone on the ice was great instinct but it was a flukey type thing and the goalie should have stopped it. great highlight material but not one of the 10 greatest goals ever.

Go find some video footage of Bobby Orr and Gilbert Perrault - both these guys in their prime would routinely take the puck from their own goal line and beat 3 and 4 players before finishing off goals that were pure art. Add in Dennis Savard.

For one, Crosby is way over rated. Don?t forget where he put his numbers at ? The Q league (stands for queer league). If he was playing kids in OHL he would be toast? literally?
Second, Ovechkin had 1 and a half year behind his belt in russian pro league. I don?t know where you getting your information but as a person who?s closely devoted to Russian hockey I can tell you that all that bullshit about AO?s lengthy pro career is nothing but bread crumbs off Don Cherry?s table.
For skeptics here?s all of AO?s goals this year.. if Crosby can top that in 2 years I?ll have his name tattooed on my dick?
Crosby?s finesse will never come any where near Ovechkin?s. Mark my words. He?d be lucky if he does not follow the steps of Daigle.


http://www.rh71.com/projects/ovechkin/

this is pretty stupid. did you see him play at the world juniors? crosby is not overrated, he blew that league away at 16. he wasnt like daigle who got points but didn't help his team win. crosby dominated from day 1 and lifted his teammates. great players do that.

not to mention crosby is playing better as a rookie than daigle ever has. plus he did more at 16 in the world juniors than daigle did as a 19 y/o on a stacked roster during the last strike. daigle was a complete no show then while crosby shined at 17.

face it, you can't evaluate hockey talent

top dmen can help stop a high scoring team. scoring is only half a game

Crosby is a good player but needs to mature alot, he whines and cries way too much, he is already getting a reputation like mccabe and tucker, the ultimate whiners.

Also crosby is on a team with a bunch of old guys that are stuck in the old game of hockey, he's not doing too bad, but i do think Ovechkin is better.

I think Eric Staal is better then both of them ;) his whole family is going to dominate the NHL, they are saying Jordan Staal, his younger brother could be the # 1 pick next year and he has like 2 younger than that, lighting up their respective leagues.

A couple years? He's already one of the top players in the league.