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SleazyDream 12-25-2005 12:37 AM

Post who you think needs to goto AA on GFY
 
Which GFY members do you think drink too much or do too many drugs and need to goto AA or some other like organization to help them with their addiction problem.


NAME NAMES NOW!!!!!!!!!!!

nofx 12-25-2005 12:39 AM

LChttp://www.com

TurboAngel 12-25-2005 12:39 AM

I'm drunk now.


:Oh crap

Spunky 12-25-2005 12:49 AM

Sometimes I resemble that remark

OG LennyT 12-25-2005 12:49 AM

I'm drinking wine... will fall asleep before drunkedness occurs

Linguist 12-25-2005 12:52 AM

I'm in denial, so I don't need no AA :banana

com 12-25-2005 12:57 AM

Meetings are for quiters... and nobody likes a quitter.

jasonir 12-25-2005 12:58 AM

AA is a bunch of christian fucks that think there is a disease called alcoholism. Calling it a disease is a serious lack of responsibility.

kmanrox 12-25-2005 12:58 AM

ummm... maybe Amp?

lol

FlogTheLog 12-25-2005 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sjelefall
I'm in denial, so I don't need no AA :banana

rolfamo..... so true

neverlearn 12-25-2005 01:00 AM

me...been there , done that...didnt work :Oh crap

MikeHawk 12-25-2005 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by com
Meetings are for quiters... and nobody likes a quitter.


lol.....true colors....hahaha..

You will die thinking you are right and not a quiter...what a way to go....lol :1orglaugh

com 12-25-2005 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeHawk
lol.....true colors....hahaha..

You will die thinking you are right and not a quiter...what a way to go....lol :1orglaugh

:eek7 eh? I know we're all going to inevitably die someday, but do you seriously think I'm going to consume myself into the grave on anything? Your sense of humor seems to be displaced!

MikeHawk 12-25-2005 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonir
AA is a bunch of christian fucks that think there is a disease called alcoholism. Calling it a disease is a serious lack of responsibility.

in the mood so why not...when anyone looks stupid and does not know what they are talking about, sometimes just like to laugh, this time, i will help you...cause you are a dumb ass:

no.1

Alcohol abuse can cause a condition called "fatty liver" or another called "alcohol hepatitis" -- both of which can be treated, but only if alcohol consumption is stopped. If drinking continues, these conditions will cause cirrhosis of the liver.


Hardening of the Liver
What happens is the liver begins to harden. Scar tissue develops in the body's largest organ which hinders its ability to filter blood. When the scar tissue develops to a certain point, the liver can no longer do its work.
The problem is the liver performs more than 1,500 functions for the body, including more than 300 life-saving procedures. If the liver stops doing its job, all kinds of health problems develop quickly and death can come rapidly.

The liver detoxifies poisons, both those produced by the body and those from outside; filters bacteria from the blood; regulates fat metabolism; stores and manufactures vitamins; regulates and manufactures cholesterol and fats; synthesizes proteins; maintains the body's water and salt balance; secretes bile for the digestion of fat; stores energy (in the form of glycogen) helps regulate overall body metabolism; transforms the highly toxic ammonia (produced by exercise and by metabolism of proteins) into urea which is eliminated in the urine; manufactures lipoproteins for fat and cholesterol transport; and metabolizes alcohol.

If the liver stops doing any of these jobs, or numerous others it does constantly, the result is fatal.

Your welcome....



no.2

Q. Is Alcoholism a Disease?
from National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism

A.
Yes. Alcoholism is a chronic, often progressive disease with symptoms that include a strong need to drink despite negative consequences, such as serious job or health problems. Like many other diseases, it has a generally predictable course, has recognized symptoms, and is influenced by both genetic and environmental factors that are being increasingly well defined. (See also Alcohol Alert No. 30: Diagnostic Criteria for Alcohol Abuse and Dependence.)

enjoy....lol

emthree 12-25-2005 01:12 AM

The ones who snort coke.

SleazyDream 12-25-2005 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonir
AA is a bunch of christian fucks that think there is a disease called alcoholism. Calling it a disease is a serious lack of responsibility.

that depends on the chapter. I grew up in an AA family. My father and most of his real friends that went though AA didn't become overwhelmed by the religion aspect. Some need it - some don't.

MikeHawk 12-25-2005 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by com
:eek7 eh? I know we're all going to inevitably die someday, but do you seriously think I'm going to consume myself into the grave on anything? Your sense of humor seems to be displaced!


lol...true we will...but to call someone a "quiter" that has a serious problem that needs to take a closer look at his life.....that person is far from quiter, that is someone who has woken up and maybe wants to live.....

Its not really something to humor about, its a very serious subject and many of my friends have died....and its all fucked up.

What is trully amazing to me how un educated the public is to this.....it is just amazing to me.

SleazyDream 12-25-2005 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonir
AA is a bunch of christian fucks that think there is a disease called alcoholism. Calling it a disease is a serious lack of responsibility.

anyone with a disease needs to take responsibiliy to take care of themself and get better- rgardless of the disease

jasonir 12-25-2005 01:22 AM

MikeHawk has informed us that alcoholism can cause liver problems. Oh great one, I thank you for sharing this uncommon wisdom with us, the uneducated public. He has also provided us with a quotation from an unbiased website with an opinion on alcoholism. Oh, he is so intelligent and awesome. I am so unworthy.

SleazyDream 12-25-2005 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonir
MikeHawk has informed us that alcoholism can cause liver problems. Oh great one, I thank you for sharing this uncommon wisdom with us, the uneducated public. He has also provided us with a quotation from an unbiased website with an opinion on alcoholism. Oh, he is so intelligent and awesome. I am so unworthy.

you are - without a doubt - an idiot

jasonir 12-25-2005 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
anyone with a disease needs to take responsibiliy to take care of themself and get better- rgardless of the disease

I totally agree with you man. Anyone with an addiction who can't get over it themselves should seek help.

BT 12-25-2005 01:30 AM

I have been there it sucks... Had the most successful days in sales but my life was

boring

SilverTab 12-25-2005 01:31 AM

hmmm well the fact that alcoholism can lead to further medical problem (ex: cirrhosis of the liver) doesnt make it a disease....(im not even argueing the fact that alcoholism is a disease or not here...) just saying that this arguement doesnt mean anything...

Smoking can cause cancer, but smoking isnt a disease...
Driving can kill you, but its not a disease....

alcoholism is an addiction...just like drug addiction etc...
anyone claming that alcoholism is a disease, and preaching their cause,etc. ..but would spit on a drugged up junkie asking for change in the metro is an idiot....

SleazyDream 12-25-2005 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverTab
hmmm well the fact that alcoholism can lead to further medical problem (ex: cirrhosis of the liver) doesnt make it a disease....(im not even argueing the fact that alcoholism is a disease or not here...) just saying that this arguement doesnt mean anything...

Smoking can cause cancer, but smoking isnt a disease...
Driving can kill you, but its not a disease....

alcoholism is an addiction...just like drug addiction etc...
anyone claming that alcoholism is a disease, and preaching their cause,etc. ..but would spit on a drugged up junkie asking for change in the metro is an idiot....

excuse me?

Halcyon 12-25-2005 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonir
MikeHawk has informed us that alcoholism can cause liver problems. Oh great one, I thank you for sharing this uncommon wisdom with us, the uneducated public. He has also provided us with a quotation from an unbiased website with an opinion on alcoholism. Oh, he is so intelligent and awesome. I am so unworthy.



This from the guy who gets his thoughts on alcoholism from South Park.

I'm guessing you're the same guy who wonders why an anorexic girl doesn't just eat a burger.

MikeHawk 12-25-2005 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonir
MikeHawk has informed us that alcoholism can cause liver problems. Oh great one, I thank you for sharing this uncommon wisdom with us, the uneducated public. He has also provided us with a quotation from an unbiased website with an opinion on alcoholism. Oh, he is so intelligent and awesome. I am so unworthy.

jasonir....its not that you are not unworthy, its just you dont know.

I will be sober 17 years this year in jan coming up, i have seen so much in those years....

Since we are the subject why not share, since you seem to be calling me out and i am in the mood to tell you...

I had a daughter with a woman, carried our baby girl for 9 months, when our daughter was 1 her mother decided that doing drugs and drinking was far better than being the mother to her own daughter....now you tell me that is only one of millions of stories like that....you dont think this deal is for real?

Think again...booze and drugs is the only fucked up thing that no matter how much you want to stop no matter how far down the ladder of life you have traveled ...how much you have lost....it still talks to you...tells you are ok....and you dont have a problem...what is that?

I am not quoting anything but speaking from experience and truth...

this deal ...only sickness that continues to tell us we dont have a sickness ...so dangerous


Oh on the daughter, i have been a full time dad 24/7 and the mother has always be able to see her own daughter if she chooses but she doesnt, she chooses the other shit....i stop trying too figure out that happens...it just does.

com 12-25-2005 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeHawk
lol...true we will...but to call someone a "quiter" that has a serious problem that needs to take a closer look at his life.....that person is far from quiter, that is someone who has woken up and maybe wants to live.....

Its not really something to humor about, its a very serious subject and many of my friends have died....and its all fucked up.

What is trully amazing to me how un educated the public is to this.....it is just amazing to me.

I think you have me confused for someone else.... I come from an Irish family... I'm certified and allowed to make jokes about drinking problems, substance abuse, and meetings. I'm losing a dear friend as we speak to drinking induced heart disease. I think you need to lighten up.

FlogTheLog 12-25-2005 01:35 AM

this is the GFY AA Meeting :thumbsup

http://www.flogthelog.com/images/str2.jpg

SleazyDream 12-25-2005 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flogthelog
this is the GFY AA Meeting :thumbsup

http://www.flogthelog.com/images/str2.jpg

those are non alcoholic beers.

Halcyon 12-25-2005 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeHawk
jasonir....its not that you are not unworthy, its just you dont know.

I will be sober 17 years this year in jan coming up, i have seen so much in those years....

Since we are the subject why not share, since you seem to be calling me out and i am in the mood to tell you...

I had a daughter with a woman, carried our baby girl for 9 months, when our daughter was 1 her mother decided that doing drugs and drinking was far better than being the mother to her own daughter....now you tell me that is only one of millions of stories like that....you dont think this deal is for real?

Think again...booze and drugs is the only fucked up thing that no matter how much you want to stop no matter how far down the ladder of life you have traveled ...how much you have lost....it still talks to you...tells you are ok....and you dont have a problem...what is that?

I am not quoting anything but speaking from experience and truth...

this deal ...only sickness that continues to tell us we dont have a sickness ...so dangerous


Oh on the daughter, i have been a full time dad 24/7 and the mother has always be able to see her own daughter if she chooses but she doesnt, she chooses the other shit....i stop trying too figure out that happens...it just does.

Bravo. And said with the same class you bring to everything. Merry Xmas, btw....your personal sharing is a gift to all of GFY.

MikeHawk 12-25-2005 01:38 AM

it is truly amazing to me just how many people are just clueless how booze and drugs effects our world

no idea

from kids to jails to crime to death...just to start....

Those drink and party responsible i have zero problem with, its those who have crossed the line, and decided they would do what ever it took to keep and stay high, no matter what.

FlogTheLog 12-25-2005 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
those are non alcoholic beers.

its root beer :Oh crap

SilverTab 12-25-2005 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
excuse me?


ill explain it in simpler terms:

Mike Hawk was calling some guy an idiot because he was saying that alcoholism isnt a disease....

As an argument to prove his point, he said (Mike) that alcoholism can cause hardening of the liver etc...

I, in turn, observed that, although alcoholism can lead to terrible health issues, (i.e. liver problems, death...) it does NOT make it a disease...

Then, I used cigarette as an example of something that can lead to bad health, without being a disease...

Now I dont see how I could make it any easier

com 12-25-2005 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeHawk
it is truly amazing to me just how many people are just clueless how booze and drugs effects our world

no idea

from kids to jails to crime to death...just to start....

Those drink and party responsible i have zero problem with, its those who have crossed the line, and decided they would do what ever it took to keep and stay high, no matter what.

poor choices and irresponsability cannot be excused that easily.

3M TA3 12-25-2005 01:40 AM

sorry dude, there are many things that lead to medial issues that can be named chronic, but that doesn't make then a disease. And quoting the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism isn't helping your case either. it's like asking the republicans to justify their exsistance.

Alcohol abuse can be stoped by one thing.....changing one's behavior.

:321GFY :321GFY I'm not in the mood to hear anyone make excuses.

there are 2 kinds of people in this world. people who talk about it and people who do it. never met a sucessfull person who just talked about it. Even Tony Robins has an agent.

Merry fucking Christmas


Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeHawk
in the mood so why not...when anyone looks stupid and does not know what they are talking about, sometimes just like to laugh, this time, i will help you...cause you are a dumb ass:

no.1

Alcohol abuse can cause a condition called "fatty liver" or another called "alcohol hepatitis" -- both of which can be treated, but only if alcohol consumption is stopped. If drinking continues, these conditions will cause cirrhosis of the liver.


Hardening of the Liver
What happens is the liver begins to harden. Scar tissue develops in the body's largest organ which hinders its ability to filter blood. When the scar tissue develops to a certain point, the liver can no longer do its work.
The problem is the liver performs more than 1,500 functions for the body, including more than 300 life-saving procedures. If the liver stops doing its job, all kinds of health problems develop quickly and death can come rapidly.

The liver detoxifies poisons, both those produced by the body and those from outside; filters bacteria from the blood; regulates fat metabolism; stores and manufactures vitamins; regulates and manufactures cholesterol and fats; synthesizes proteins; maintains the body's water and salt balance; secretes bile for the digestion of fat; stores energy (in the form of glycogen) helps regulate overall body metabolism; transforms the highly toxic ammonia (produced by exercise and by metabolism of proteins) into urea which is eliminated in the urine; manufactures lipoproteins for fat and cholesterol transport; and metabolizes alcohol.

If the liver stops doing any of these jobs, or numerous others it does constantly, the result is fatal.

Your welcome....



no.2

Q. Is Alcoholism a Disease?
from National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism

A.
Yes. Alcoholism is a chronic, often progressive disease with symptoms that include a strong need to drink despite negative consequences, such as serious job or health problems. Like many other diseases, it has a generally predictable course, has recognized symptoms, and is influenced by both genetic and environmental factors that are being increasingly well defined. (See also Alcohol Alert No. 30: Diagnostic Criteria for Alcohol Abuse and Dependence.)

enjoy....lol


jasonir 12-25-2005 01:42 AM

I just don't agree with calling addiction a disease. It's not a fucking disease. People who have cancer have a disease. Alcoholics have an addiction. Oh, hell, YES addiction is serious - but you brought it on yourself. No one forced you to drink, but no one can control whether they get leukemia.

SleazyDream 12-25-2005 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverTab
ill explain it in simpler terms:

Mike Hawk was calling some guy an idiot because he was saying that alcoholism isnt a disease....

As an argument to prove his point, he said (Mike) that alcoholism can cause hardening of the liver etc...

I, in turn, observed that, although alcoholism can lead to terrible health issues, (i.e. liver problems, death...) it does NOT make it a disease...

Then, I used cigarette as an example of something that can lead to bad health, without being a disease...

Now I dont see how I could make it any easier

ok, then answer this - are all forms of mental illness not to be classified as a disease?

think about that

3M TA3 12-25-2005 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonir
I just don't agree with calling addiction a disease. It's not a fucking disease. People who have cancer have a disease. Alcoholics have an addiction. Oh, hell, YES addiction is serious

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

SilverTab 12-25-2005 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
ok, then answer this - are all forms of mental illness not to be classified as a disease?

think about that


yes...I would consider mental illness to be a disease....

I still dont think it has anything to do with addiction...

If I decide to start drinking (or even if im forced to it), then cant stop it...im addicted to it...its a bad thing, granted...

its still no medical condition like being bi-polar or schizophreniac

Im not saying that alcoholism isnt a serious problem, that it isnt really hard to overcome etc...I have a bunch of alcoholics in my family (serious ones...even uncles that lost their houses, wives etc..) and I will be the first to admit that its a terrible thing, and a serious issue...

I just...dont think its a disease...

com 12-25-2005 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
ok, then answer this - are all forms of mental illness not to be classified as a disease?

think about that

would you consider insanity a disease?


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