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Juicy D. Links 12-07-2005 07:32 PM

So you think the AIR MARSHAL was justified in shooting the guy????????
 
I say yes.......

These guys have to react fast. I believe he was justified in his decision based on what I have heard so far.


Thoughts?

Steve 12-07-2005 07:33 PM

anyone dumb enough to tell an air marshall he's packing a bomb deserves to get his ass shot all up

selena 12-07-2005 07:33 PM

If the accounts are accurate, then yes.

Juicy D. Links 12-07-2005 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve
anyone dumb enough to tell an air marshall he's packing a bomb deserves to get his ass shot all up

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

true true true

CDSmith 12-07-2005 07:35 PM

If it went down the way they said it did, then hell yes.

Only a fuckwit would even think of uttering "bomb", then running when told to stop, then reaching in his bag once he did stop. If the twit had've just knelt down and begged them to shoot him instead of doing all that he'd still be alive right now.

Juicy D. Links 12-07-2005 07:36 PM

A 44-year-old U.S. citizen who claimed to have a bomb was killed by air marshals Wednesday at Miami International Airport, several sources told CNN. The man, identified as Rigoberto Alpizar, said the device was in his carry-on backpack, a Department of Homeland Security official said. When Alpizar -- standing on the boarding bridge between the plane and terminal -- appeared to reach into his backpack he was shot, the official said. No bomb was found.

Deputy Chief Command 12-07-2005 07:36 PM

the guy was a mental patient that hadnt taking his medication


his wife yelled at the marshalss not to do anything

Juicy D. Links 12-07-2005 07:37 PM

Check out the Vids on http://www.cnn.com/

Juicy D. Links 12-07-2005 07:38 PM

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/interactive/u....prep.wfor.jpg

A Miami police officer near the airport prepares to approach the Boeing 757 on Wednesday.

Nookster 12-07-2005 07:38 PM

They have to react fast and I think he was very justified in reacting the way he did. They're paid to react the way he did. Period.

DirtyDanza 12-07-2005 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command
the guy was a mental patient that hadnt taking his medication


his wife yelled at the marshalss not to do anything

how did they know she was not on his side about a bomb.. she could say that to give him enough time to blow everyone up... I would have shot him as he ran.. they hel there cool

Bluewire Ross 12-07-2005 07:39 PM

Remember the movie FLIGHT PLAN?

Deputy Chief Command 12-07-2005 07:39 PM

Quote:

An eyewitness told a local television station that the man's wife had warned he was mentally ill. "He was frantic, his arms flailing in the air," the passenger, Mary Gardner, said. Ms Gardner said the man had run down the aisle from the back of the plane, followed by a woman shouting "My husband! My husband!" She also heard the woman say her husband was bipolar and had not taken his medication.


:Oh crap :Oh crap

Juicy D. Links 12-07-2005 07:39 PM

Alpizar was confronted by a team of federal air marshals, who followed him down the boarding bridge and ordered him to get on the ground, the official said.

When Alpizar appeared to reach into his backpack, he was shot and wounded, the official said, adding that the marshals' actions were consistent with their training. Officials said later that the man died of his injuries.

Allison 12-07-2005 07:40 PM

Agreed, from what I've "heard" thus far, I'd say it was justified. I kinda wonder though about the source of information right now. Also, the conspiracy theorist in me thinks maybe this is publicity to counter all the recent information about how airport security isn't much more secure then it was in 2001.

~Alli

Juicy D. Links 12-07-2005 07:40 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/12/07/air...hot/index.html

sperbonzo 12-07-2005 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command
the guy was a mental patient that hadnt taking his medication


his wife yelled at the marshalss not to do anything

So? If I was part of a terrorist team, I would have someone yelling "don't shoot! He's not well!" to distract the marshalls and slow down their reaction time.

If me or someone I love was on that plane, I don't want the marshalls standing around going, "Ok, we'll just wait and talk to him and his wife about his possible mental history"..... then BOOM!

Screw that! They had to make a fast choice, and to protect the safety of the other 100+ people on that plane, they made the right choice. :2 cents:

Tempest 12-07-2005 07:41 PM

If the guy really did have mental problems and stuff, it's a sad situation... But if what they're saying is true, I don't see where the marshals had much of a choice..

Juicy D. Links 12-07-2005 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo
So? If I was part of a terrorist team, I would have someone yelling "don't shoot! He's not well!" to distract the marshalls and slow down their reaction time.

If me or someone I love was on that plane, I don't want the marshalls standing around going, "Ok, we'll just wait and talk to him and his wife about his possible mental history"..... then BOOM!

Screw that! They had to make a fast choice, and to protect the safety of the other 100+ people on that plane, they made the right choice. :2 cents:


Good Point

SmokeyTheBear 12-07-2005 07:44 PM

If she knew he had a mental problem and wasn't taking medication , he shouldnt have been travelling.. It sucks , but i think it was justified.. its hard to say without seeing a video , but they say he was running up the aisle of the plane waving his arms yelling incoherently..( after claiming he had a bomb ) ran down off the plane and they shot him on the tarmac as he reached in a bag he had .. i can't see what else they could have done..

dissipate 12-07-2005 07:45 PM

Shit happens, sometimes mistakes happen in order for the greater good. It's horrible it happened though.. poor guy.

SmokeyTheBear 12-07-2005 07:45 PM

and yah if she shouted " he has mental problems" that wouldn't make it any safer.. i would be twice as worried.

CDSmith 12-07-2005 07:46 PM

Bottom line, when an official in uniform pointing their gun at you tells you to stop,

you stop.

If you don't you risk being shot.

If they tell you to put your hands on your head and kneel, you do it

if you don't you risk being shot.

If they tell you to lie face down on the pavement, you do it.

if you don't you risk being shot.



It ain't rocket science, but some guys think it's some sort of cool fucking joke or something to go mocking authority, look at this fuckwit for example....


http://www.thewinnipegpages.com/foru...1094132347.jpg

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 12-07-2005 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command
the guy was a mental patient that hadnt taking his medication


his wife yelled at the marshalss not to do anything

So what.

Juicy D. Links 12-07-2005 07:47 PM

If i was a Air Marshal in that position I would have blown his brains out , then lit up a cigarette.

Juicy D. Links 12-07-2005 07:48 PM

Someone chop my face as a Air Marshal

http://www.gl4l.com/images/juicyface.jpg

kaori 12-07-2005 07:48 PM

I'm just curious about the training these air marshals have..
Are they like glorified security gaurds? Or do they have army/police training?

regardless, saying you have a bomb, and reaching into a backpack should be a gauranteed way to get shot... could have had a trigger in there..

LittleMack 12-07-2005 07:49 PM

Yup, guy going for his bag after making bomb threat, deadly force is justified

JamesK2 12-07-2005 07:49 PM

The guy was mentally ill, I think it's obvious those people yell all kinds of strange shit. The marshal probably had a flashback and shot him down.

robfantasy 12-07-2005 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
Bottom line, when an official in uniform pointing their gun at you tells you to stop,

you stop.

If you don't you risk being shot.

If they tell you to put your hands on your head and kneel, you do it

if you don't you risk being shot.

If they tell you to lie face down on the pavement, you do it.

if you don't you risk being shot.



It ain't rocket science, but some guys think it's some sort of cool fucking joke or something to go mocking authority, look at this fuckwit for example....


http://www.thewinnipegpages.com/foru...1094132347.jpg


YOU GOT IT ALL WRONG.. this is a tactic so you cannot be charged with a DUI.

he can claim he got drunk right then when he was stopped and wasnt under the influence while he was driving..

i have seen it work many times.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 12-07-2005 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesK
The guy was mentally ill, I think it's obvious those people yell all kinds of strange shit. The marshal probably had a flashback and shot him down.

And terrorists say the stupidest shit as well when they are doing something.
Like holding a kid by the hand only to use em as a human shield while people will give "Tips" that he is just an enraged parent.

Juicy D. Links 12-07-2005 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaori
I'm just curious about the training these air marshals have..
Are they like glorified security gaurds? Or do they have army/police training?

regardless, saying you have a bomb, and reaching into a backpack should be a gauranteed way to get shot... could have had a trigger in there..

go to cnn.com and watch the training videos

they are the elite of the elite of the elite

Juicy D. Links 12-07-2005 07:55 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/12/07/air.marshal/

(CNN) -- Federal air marshals train to shoot in extremely close quarters and tense situations, but until Wednesday no agent had used his weapon...........

Spunky 12-07-2005 07:55 PM

Some idiots need to be put out of their misery..You don't utter the bomb word and not expect repercussions

reynold 12-07-2005 07:58 PM

Nope. But I guess his balls derserve to be hang..

CDSmith 12-07-2005 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robfantasy
YOU GOT IT ALL WRONG.. this is a tactic so you cannot be charged with a DUI.

he can claim he got drunk right then when he was stopped and wasnt under the influence while he was driving..

i have seen it work many times.

As usual, someone completely misses the central point.

*ZOOM*.. right over your head. Look at it gooooo.....

The point has nothing to do with the idiot drinking..... it has EVERYTHING to do with ignoring commands while a gun is pointed at you.

Again, for the verbally challenged... it has EVERYTHING to do with ignoring commands while a gun is pointed at you.

Helloo? Anyone like, hoome? :D

JamesK2 12-07-2005 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
And terrorists say the stupidest shit as well when they are doing something.
Like holding a kid by the hand only to use em as a human shield while people will give "Tips" that he is just an enraged parent.

Well I've never seen a terrorist IRL so I wouldn't know :pimp

robfantasy 12-07-2005 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
As usual, someone completely misses the central point.

*ZOOM*.. right over your head. Look at it gooooo.....

The point has nothing to do with the idiot drinking..... it has EVERYTHING to do with ignoring commands while a gun is pointed at you.

Again, for the verbally challenged... it has EVERYTHING to do with ignoring commands while a gun is pointed at you.

Helloo? Anyone like, hoome? :D

ya i hear what u are saying. i just wanted to explain the picture ;)

Argonaut 12-07-2005 08:11 PM

i say its one less set of poor genes our future has to worry about

nofx 12-07-2005 08:13 PM

cops dont like using non lethal weapons such a tasers

cops rather kill then save


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