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alexg 11-04-2005 02:42 PM

Bad news for weed smokers: Holland will ban the selling of cannabis for tourists.
 
Looks like there won't be no more trips to amsterdam for the purpose of getting stoned...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005510311,00.html

Jace 11-04-2005 02:45 PM

wow, there goes holland's tourist revenue

HarrytheNazi 11-04-2005 02:46 PM

...The London Sun? OMG

FuqALot 11-04-2005 02:49 PM

Haha. Nope.

Doctor Dre 11-04-2005 02:50 PM

They talked about it for a while now ... That would kill a part of the tourism thought

Doctor Dre 11-04-2005 02:52 PM

Mental illness among users has rocketed ? and experts warn pot may soon be seen as a hard drug.

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yahhhhhhhhh right ... it causes less damages then alchool

smack 11-04-2005 02:53 PM

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Experts say teens who often smoke pot are 4½ times more likely to suffer psychosis or schizophrenia in their 20s.
liars. big fat liars.

Maxy 11-04-2005 02:54 PM

What mental illness are they talking about? anyone got any sources?

Jace 11-04-2005 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by smack
liars. big fat liars.

hahahaha, i didn't even see that...LOL

dude, i know some HUGE stoners...and i don't think i have ever once seen a psycho stoner...LOL

Libertine 11-04-2005 02:56 PM

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Dutch health ministry spokesman Ton Cramer said it was likely that cannabis would soon be outlawed again.
That article reeks of bullshit.

Head_Hunter 11-04-2005 02:59 PM

ggrrrrr....

smack 11-04-2005 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace
hahahaha, i didn't even see that...LOL

dude, i know some HUGE stoners...and i don't think i have ever once seen a psycho stoner...LOL


if that were true i would be in a fucking mental ward by now.

i mean, i am bat shit nuts, but not nearly schizophrenic.

Doctor Dre 11-04-2005 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smack
liars. big fat liars.

Actually it accelerate the symptoms ... wich would normally appear later in life.

Doctor Dre 11-04-2005 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxy
What mental illness are they talking about? anyone got any sources?

Smoking lots of weed definitly have some symptoms like anxiety, paranoya, deformed view of reality and other stuff like that . It's nothing TOO big and obvious, but on the long term, it does have it's effects

alexg 11-04-2005 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by smack
liars. big fat liars.

what makes you think so?

smack 11-04-2005 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by alexg
what makes you think so?


i have done a highly scientific study of potheads.

Scott McD 11-04-2005 03:22 PM

Ah well, won't bother me, i don't smoke the shit anyway.

If i go to Amsterdam, it's for the whores anyway... :winkwink:

Doctor Dre 11-04-2005 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by smack
if that were true i would be in a fucking mental ward by now.

i mean, i am bat shit nuts, but not nearly schizophrenic.

Dude it has nothing to do with MAKING you a schytzo ... Lots of schytzos have no symptoms till the 40s etc etc etc. It just makes them appear quickly ...

And you can argue all day about that but ...
My father got 2 PhDs ... one of them is in psychology
One of my father's best friend works in a mental instution and treat mostly drug addicts and schytzos
Another of my father best friend works in a drug lab and in a prison testing long term effects of drugs on users. He's a general practitionsist and got a specialisation in neurology and braincells.

I've argued more then enough with them about the effects of drug uses on my friend ... but they know the facts on long term ;)

P.S. All of the people above smoke weed once in a while ;) Just don't abuse it.

smack 11-04-2005 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre
Smoking lots of weed definitly have some symptoms like anxiety, paranoya, deformed view of reality and other stuff like that . It's nothing TOO big and obvious, but on the long term, it does have it's effects


slight paranoia is the only thing i have ever expierienced.

explain this deformed view of reality?

alexg 11-04-2005 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace
hahahaha, i didn't even see that...LOL

dude, i know some HUGE stoners...and i don't think i have ever once seen a psycho stoner...LOL

how many psycho non-stoners have you seen?

if none, then it doesn't mean shit.

if you've seen some, then it still doesn't mean shit, because there are a lot more non-stoners than stoners.

you probably didn't research a big population of people and see what % of stoners among them are psycho, and what % of non-stoners are...

that's what EXPERTS are supposed to do. now, I'm not saying these specific EXPERTS did a good studying, but you surely didn't, so you can't really argue with them.

Libertine 11-04-2005 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre
Dude it has nothing to do with MAKING you a schytzo ... Lots of schytzos have no symptoms till the 40s etc etc etc. It just makes them appear quickly ...

And you can argue all day about that but ...
My father got 2 PhDs ... one of them is in psychology
One of my father's best friend works in a mental instution and treat mostly drug addicts and schytzos
Another of my father best friend works in a drug lab and in a prison testing long term effects of drugs on users. He's a general practitionsist and got a specialisation in neurology and braincells.

I've argued more then enough with them about the effects of drug uses on my friend ... but they know the facts on long term ;)

P.S. All of the people above smoke weed once in a while ;) Just don't abuse it.


I'm fairly certain they don't know the facts on long term, since those are still highly controversial and are still being researched. One large problem still hampering research is that it seems very likely that people with mental illnesses are more inclined to start using drugs in the first place, making it very difficult determining cause and effect.

SleazyDream 11-04-2005 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by smack
if that were true i would be in a fucking mental ward by now.

i mean, i am bat shit nuts, but not nearly schizophrenic.

umm - seriously that statement alone proves without a doubt you're a total fucking idiot who doesn't have a clue about statistical annalysis


probally smoking too much pot.....

Libertine 11-04-2005 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by alexg
you probably didn't research a big population of people and see what % of stoners among them are psycho, and what % of non-stoners are...

That only shows correlation, not causation :2 cents:

smack 11-04-2005 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream
umm - seriously that statement alone proves without a doubt you're a total fucking idiot who doesn't have a clue about statistical annalysis


probally smoking too much pot.....


nevermind sleazy, apperently my hyperbole went right over your head.

Radik 11-04-2005 03:36 PM

If it's true what a shame.. major $$ gone, and money talks so i think it's fake :)

Sarah_Jayne 11-04-2005 03:37 PM

Have to love the Sun style of making it sound like it is only going to be against British toursits and then filling the majority of the article full of stock statistics about British drug laws rather than filling it with information on their actual headline. Of course, that would have meant they would of had to interview an actual European.

Radiate 11-04-2005 04:03 PM

I don't believe the article, the dutch government was talking about this some months ago but from what I heard nothing has come of it yet and almost certainly wont.

I wouldn't believe anything the Sun has to say, it's a pile of shite.

bjjb 11-04-2005 04:11 PM

Big deal. i know folks in GB wo go thru hundreds of pounds a month selling and smoking. Not like its gonna cut down on the "abuse" already there lol

budz 11-04-2005 04:13 PM

I knew it, they're out to get me and everything I enjoy.

JFK 11-04-2005 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by punkworld
That article reeks of bullshit.

this whole thing was making the rounds a few months ago already :2 cents:

bjjb 11-04-2005 04:15 PM

Funny thing is Guess where the people I know in GB get those 100's of pounds? Yep HOLLAND :)

hydro 11-04-2005 04:19 PM

anything that messes with your brain is going to be bad for you. You hippies can throw the words "natural herb" around all you want but its still bad for you. Its not as bad as cigs, booz, and cocaine but your still better off not using it or if you do use it, only once in a while instead of getting stoned on a daily basis.

Screaming 11-04-2005 04:32 PM

You dont have to be a citizen of any country to get an id card do you? You can do that with say a birth cirt and a ss card, or passport?

So, you set up an address there, you take your tourists right to the dmv, or what ever they call it. They all get IDs made with that address and for the weekend, duration of the trip they are from there.

They hand you the IDs at the end of the stay and you can a keep them on file or b destroy them at the travelers request.

Weed smoking tours. All 100% legal, and you are making a nice profit.

All it takes is you buying a decent rental.. Say a B&B.

Doctor Dre 11-04-2005 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by smack
slight paranoia is the only thing i have ever expierienced.

explain this deformed view of reality?

It's really not big effects ... unless you have something else "running in your blood"... As an example, too much self confidence could be a deformed view of reality ...

Libertine 11-05-2005 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK
this whole thing was making the rounds a few months ago already :2 cents:

But it isn't likely at all that cannabis will be outlawed soon, which is what was being claimed in the piece I quoted, and from the looks of it right now, it seems extremely unlikely that tourists will be banned from buying cannabis.

tASSy 11-05-2005 10:14 AM

seems like this scare comes around once a year or so...kind of like the rumour that they were going to up the legal driving age from 16 to 18 when you were in high school, around your sophomore year. :2 cents:

Basic_man 11-05-2005 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre
Mental illness among users has rocketed ? and experts warn pot may soon be seen as a hard drug.

--

yahhhhhhhhh right ... it causes less damages then alchool


If weed goes as a hard drug, what would be soft drug then ?

directfiesta 11-05-2005 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by alexg
Looks like there won't be no more trips to amsterdam for the purpose of getting stoned...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005510311,00.html

Now. that IS torture :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Paul 11-05-2005 10:26 AM

I'd like to see those african drug dealers banded from the red lights district, they make the red light district seedy and dangerous. Everyone gets hassled by those motherfuckers every 5 seconds.

I think the dutch government should concentrate on getting the problem with hard drugs controlled before even thinking about cutting off a large tourist income and attraction of theirs

BRISK 11-05-2005 10:26 AM

Personally, I go to Amsterdam for the canals and the architecture. It's not like it's the only place in the world where you can smoke weed.


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