Breaking News: Feds Raid Max Hardcore on Obscenity Allegations
 

News of interest:

https://www.ynot.com/modules.php?op=...rder=0&thold=0

not suprised that they would target him first... always thought the hardcore pissing + face fucking type of sites would be targetted first..

hopefully nothing happens to ghetto gaggers :(

Isn't this like the 3rd time or something?

2nd Actually.

I do not like his style and do not agree with some of his stuff but none the less he should be free to make his movies the way he likes.

Honestly I think Max lives for this shit.

Where is the FSC in regards to helping him fight his case?

I wonder what the actual conviction percentage is on govt obscenity cases? Doesn't seem like they ever win many of them as most seem to be won on basis of freedom of speech.

Seems like the only thing that ever happens is the accused are tied up in the court system for years getting sucked dry by lawyers.

In his case it seems like no such thing as bad publicity....

Cmon you know as well as I do that he has damn good legal service.
Though I do get your point. :winkwink:

As the FBI once said: You can beat the rap but you can not beat the ride.

Ya I vaguely remember reading about Rob Black(Zicari) of extremeassociates beating all the charges he had against him

Don't be an idiot KB, this was just announced 2 minutes ago. Grow up dude and shelve your agenda for a day or two.

Max's content is extremely on the edge and exactly what the government wants to use as an example.

But he's got a lot of resources so this should be interesting to see how it goes.

Personally, I think that stuff goes to far over the edge and only creates more hassles for the industry, though I also believe to each his own.

Every US based porn producer should have moved to Canada or elsewhere the second the inbreds and TV drones re-elected the American taliban. I don't feel sorry for anyone who gets arrested from here on out. You don't try to produce porn in a religious theocracy controlled by a cabal of fanatics who have no regard for personal freedoms, the law, or the constitution, it's just idiotic. I wouldn't feel sorry for someone who got arrested producing porn in Iran, and I don't feel sorry for someone getting arrested producing porn in America. Bad business. By George Bush's 10th or 15th year in office, there won't be any porn legally produced or distributed inside the USA.

Gotta love the delusional jackasses who said that democrats were just as bad for our business as the religious fanatics currently in office. It must actually hurt to be that stupid. Is anyone still willing to say that? Come on, I know there are a lot of blind Bush supporters here, who's willing to say that now? Stand up and be heard, the rest of us could use a good laugh. I'm sure John Kerry would have devoted FBI agents to arresting pornographers. :1orglaugh

he is a fucking idiot if he didnt see it coming
And NO I don't respect him because half his models are to fucking stupid to know the consequences of what they do. He should face up to his responcibility and only pick models with a IQ more than 75

Yep I want to thank all the republicians on this board who voted for this.Now they will hide. lol

i remember the verdict of not guilty on the first one. they thought they had him good that time too. we'll see.

The government also appealed those charges, so he's in the same boat he was years ago. I was surprised they did that too, because it seems like obsenity would be struck down, and set precident even higher up the federal court food chain... but seeing how Bush is stacking the Supreme Court it makes much more sense now.

No..they'll say how the Dems would have done the same and point to the proposed 25% porn tax.

They know just as well as you do that religion has nothing to do with this obsenity charge. It is what is best for America.

/sarcasm

The good news is if they cant beat Max the more vanilla of us really dont have to worry. If this shit keeps going the way its going ,my wife will rent out our home and move to canada and probably become citizens eventually. I will not give up my business for extreme religious zealots. The big problem is most americans are very unaware and most of us are scared to make them aware. Think about the amount of eyeballs that get in contact with our industry daily.

No the democrats want to tax it,not wipe it off the face of the earth. I can deal with a tax, vague obscenity charges are scary. Also most of that is grand standing because the 2006 is coimbng up.Also everything time this shit happens its during a republican admin when will they wake the fuck up. Nixon, Reagan and now Bush.

This country has its priorities so fucked up that it boggles the mind.

I agree with you somewhat. Vague obsenity charges are very scary but vague obsenity charges AND a porn tax would be worse.

Pandering to the right wing conservative "Moral Minority" is going to be a failing election strategy. It looks good in the bible belt news papers to Ma and Pa but I think the "average" voter would rather see the money spent on less archaically idealized domestic issues.

I wonder of the 2 hurricanes in the Gulf coast efeected the timing of this raid?

btw...we have plenty of room here in Toronto for you.

I am to vanilla:(

Connor I have a problem with any organization that strong arms webmasters to join so they will be "protected"
Then when the shit hits teh fan, where is the protection?

I never did get anyone from FSC to respond to my offer of helping out with my press contacts why do you think that is?

and MY AGENDA Connor is calling it as I see it-
Ynot has sucked Max's dick for a while now just as they promote Rob Black as being some kind of Martyr for the biz-

Why do you feel these people deserve the respect of the rest of the internet?

Why did YNOT have Rob Black come speak in SD?

I don't see the benefit of tarnishing YNOT's good name with these people who are crusading to push the line with this current administration.

It makes no sense, and I only feel this way because I loved YNOT and what it once stood for. Honesty and integrity in this business.

There was once a time when Rick wouldn't do anything that would even remotely shine a negative light on his YNOT- including people who hotlinked images, or linked to questionable site-

Now YNOT wants to align themselves with people who are obviously being targeted by the FEDS?

Makes no sense to me at all.
Then again , You and I are posting on this board so people can see it.

This discussion is not happening on YNOT's board-
What does that tell most people?

YNOT obviously is not reaching as many qualified , good webmasters as they used to.

They start with the hardest stuff and if they win.. vanilla becomes the next hard stuff :2 cents:

Good Luck To Max!

Exactly. Watch out all hardcore folks. :(

even if these charges don't stick in the courts, massive damage can be done to this industry by the government filing these frivlous lawsuits. it's going to cost him an arm and a leg to defend himself.

this is no good for anyone. :Oh crap

It costs a minimum of $250,000 to defend yourself against the DOJ- these days it's more like $500,000

Doesn't matter if he is guilty or innocent- they will break him financially if he doesn't have an attorney on contingencey
and NO attorney in their right mind would take a case like Max's on contingency
There would be too much scrutiny placed upon that lawyer and he'd have to be pretty squeaky clean-
oh wow if that isn't a paradox-

And the Bush Era continues it's "War Against The People".

I truly hope that you are further from the US than Canada or Mexico. In fact, I hope that you are working from moon base alfa, because in the long run Bush will extend the hand of the US ( the most powerful nation in the world in more ways than one ) and he will grab ahold of you as well.

If you think that you do not need to fear Bush being in office 10 to 15 years, then you are wrong. IN that time, he will use the power of the US to reach out, and in one way or another rule the world.

I hope that short ugly mutherfucker drops the soap :mad: God, I hate him.

it still amazes me that i see some of the neo cons still running around here saying things like "don't worry it won't stick".

they're really only thinking about a small caveat of this strategy.

personally, i think bush and the doj know that these charges won't stick in court to the extent that they want, but they are doing exactley what you have said.

and i am sure they will have problem attempting to bankrupt everyone they can.

it's like fucking extortion.

He has to do something to take attention away from the fact that everyone who works for him is about to go to jail.

Shitty, although I do think his content crosses the line sometimes

Rented the movie Escape from LA last night, and was so surprised when the story that they laid out, is The Bush admin exact ideas.

The story is that a big quake hits cali, and seperates LA. No biggie. But the US elects a religous president that makes everything that is against his religion illegal. He takes over mexico, and canada, and starts to us LA as a jail. Smoking, drinking, porn, prostitution, everything is illegal.

Sound like whats going on now?

i have said it before, and i stand by it.

i believe in america's potential. we have all the ingredients we need to be the greatest, most progressive, helpful, and positive country in the world.

but it seems that fear mongers and zealots have the ability to hijack our government at will. they capture the imagination of the public, use their demons and their faith against them, and exploit their "morals" and ideals to gain more control over the citizens of this land.

americans need to wake up and take our country back. we can't let a place with such potential destroy itself from the inside.

if something is going on between two consenting adults, why should there be a line?

if i like getting pissed on, or like watching people getting pissed on, why isn't that my buisness?

i don't give a flying fuck what my neighbor has in his dvd player or what he beats off too. that is their goddamned buisness.

good luck to max - and - thanks for sticking up for everyone too

and thats all that needs to be understood and said about the matter.