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seeric 09-30-2005 06:01 PM

Ok, now about Malcolm in the Middle at BURNING MAN tonight! Hal, Rand, Jack......more
 
opinions?


i think it wasn't bad. i liked it. i have never attended, but i have always had this vision of it and what it stands for. i don't really think they violated it. it showed that even though you are a "regular" person you can still let loose and have a good time and not feel bad about it. i love that they made the dad into performance art. that was great. they played to alot of the stereotypes that i hear so much about. i think that they put alot of thought and attention to detail into it now that i think about it more and more. i expected a total massacre of something so great. i got to say, as much as i don't want to like it, it was cool to watch it play out and not be disgusted. i guess i will see the year that i am lucky enough to attend. what did you think?

Ramos 09-30-2005 06:02 PM

sig spot :)

tASSy 09-30-2005 06:03 PM

is that on FOX? we're 3 hours behind ya' airek, we haven't seen it yet. muah!

Halcyon 09-30-2005 06:05 PM

I'm very curious.

It would be like if Malcom went to Mecca. Lots of potential to disrespect. But we shall see.

seeric 09-30-2005 06:07 PM

im sorry lovers, i didn't mean to spoil anything. i don't think you will be offended. come back later, i'd really like to know what you think. helps me paint the pic. i forgot that you guys dont get it till 3 hours after me. arrrgh. sorry.

Furious_Male 09-30-2005 06:10 PM

Shoot I missed that. I wanted to see it.

sunshynevideo 09-30-2005 06:45 PM

The portrayal was good - over all a good episode

WarChild 09-30-2005 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon
I'm very curious.

It would be like if Malcom went to Mecca. Lots of potential to disrespect. But we shall see.

Somehow I don't think an event attended by less than 100,000 in the dry heat is on the same level of the most holy city for a religion of hundreds of Millions.

Maybe if you had of said Malcom goes to the "Rocky Horror Picture Show".

devilspost 09-30-2005 06:53 PM

made me want to go!

Rob 09-30-2005 06:54 PM

Good stuff. I liked the rebirth thingee (not a spoiler, don't worry).

jonesy 09-30-2005 06:59 PM

when corporate gets ahold of anything its over

seeric 09-30-2005 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jonesy
when corporate gets ahold of anything its over


i was surprised, i don't want to spoil anything for the west coast people.

Halcyon 09-30-2005 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild
Somehow I don't think an event attended by less than 100,000 in the dry heat is on the same level of the most holy city for a religion of hundreds of Millions.

Maybe if you had of said Malcom goes to the "Rocky Horror Picture Show".


I wasn't referring to the size of the event. But the importance to those who consider it sacred.

MiLo 09-30-2005 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild
Somehow I don't think an event attended by less than 100,000 in the dry heat is on the same level of the most holy city for a religion of hundreds of Millions.

Maybe if you had of said Malcom goes to the "Rocky Horror Picture Show".

lol

:glugglug

seeric 09-30-2005 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Halcyon
I wasn't referring to the size of the event. But the importance to those who consider it sacred.

you have zero need to defend yourself or what you say about BM hal. seriously. if anyone knows BM its you and no one here feels it like you. save your breath. :)

JFK 09-30-2005 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild
Somehow I don't think an event attended by less than 100,000 in the dry heat is on the same level of the most holy city for a religion of hundreds of Millions.

Maybe if you had of said Malcom goes to the "Rocky Horror Picture Show".

what makes a HOLY City, Holy ? its all what you believe in :2 cents:

WarChild 09-30-2005 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon
I wasn't referring to the size of the event. But the importance to those who consider it sacred.

I wonder just how many people are willing to to die for Burning Man?

tASSy 09-30-2005 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild
I wonder just how many people are willing to to die for Burning Man?

anyone who attends is willing to die for burning man, it's on the back of the ticket you purchase to be there - a contract of sorts. i am willing to die for the freedom of expression - similar to how an american soldier is willing to die for his/her country. it's just a matter of each persons' individual beliefs. i'm not sure why you're attacking ours - i can only assume it's your ignorance of the spirituality of the playa; understandable if you've never experienced it.

tASSy 09-30-2005 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K
im sorry lovers, i didn't mean to spoil anything. i don't think you will be offended. come back later, i'd really like to know what you think. helps me paint the pic. i forgot that you guys dont get it till 3 hours after me. arrrgh. sorry.

no worries, it's about to come on and i haven't really read the bits of this thread specifically about it; just saw that you thought it did an alright job of pointing out that everyone's welcome/you don't have to look "crazy" to attend. thanks for the reminder that it's on though!

seeric 09-30-2005 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild
I wonder just how many people are willing to to die for Burning Man?



idiot. never ceases to amaze me. nah, you know what, you aren't an idiot, you are rude. thats worse. i'm sure you are intelligent.

WarChild 09-30-2005 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tASSy


anyone who attends is willing to die for burning man, it's on the back of the ticket you purchase to be there - a contract of sorts. i am willing to die for the freedom of expression - similar to how an american soldier is willing to die for his/her country. it's just a matter of each persons' individual beliefs. i'm not sure why you're attacking ours - i can only assume it's your ignorance of the spirituality of the playa; understandable if you've never experienced it.

I'm not attacking your beliefs at all. I'm questioning them. There's a marked difference.

Since you brought it up though, I will say that I find many of your "spiritual beliefs" to be silly at best, "playa".

seeric 09-30-2005 08:41 PM

well, west coast has it on the screen now, so we wil see.


warchild just needs to learn to identify the tone of the room and respect people who are discussing something is all. i'm sure he isn't a bad guy.


btw, PLAYA is a commercial term. there is nothing spiritual about it, so it would appear that you are out of context. no offense.

WarChild 09-30-2005 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K
well, west coast has it on the screen now, so we wil see.


warchild just needs to learn to identify the tone of the room and respect people who are discussing something is all. i'm sure he isn't a bad guy.


btw, PLAYA is a commercial term. there is nothing spiritual about it, so it would appear that you are out of context. no offense.

It's not like I'm wishing ill upon any of you. I don't want to change your minds, and I'm not calling anybody stupid.

I would submit that even taking the time to offer a dissenting opinion is a form of respect to the room and the discussion. Writing it off as childish and dismissing it all together would be the true form of disrespect.

Further more, if you read carefully, you called me an Idiot for daring to ask questions in your discussion.

seeric 09-30-2005 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild
It's not like I'm wishing ill upon any of you. I don't want to change your minds, and I'm not calling anybody stupid.

I would submit that even taking the time to offer a dissenting opinion is a form of respect to the room and the discussion. Writing it off as childish and dismissing it all together would be the true form of disrespect.

Further more, if you read carefully, you called me an Idiot for daring to ask questions in your discussion.

you are correct. your first amendment right is protected here. you can interject and offer your opinon, of course. iidiot was retracted by me, the author of the thread in the same thread. whats the problem?

no one is really upset with you man. this is gfy, but the threads that actually do have some sort of substance to the and not "i'd hit it threads" or worse, or guarded comparatively to a brinks truck full of gold.

basically, i guess there are some things that some people take seriously, while others do not.

thats no big deal. we are all different. :)

tASSy 09-30-2005 09:02 PM

airek:

i think halcyon's over at his computer typing up a long response about the show - we just watched it, so i'll keep mine brief. i thought they did a great job with the topic of burning man considering the audience they target. :thumbsup i love that in the end there were members of the family who 'got it' and those who didn't - it's not for everybody. :)

seeric 09-30-2005 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tASSy


no worries, it's about to come on and i haven't really read the bits of this thread specifically about it; just saw that you thought it did an alright job of pointing out that everyone's welcome/you don't have to look "crazy" to attend. thanks for the reminder that it's on though!


i really am sorry sweetie. i am not used to posting with this time difference. what did you guys think of the show?

seeric 09-30-2005 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tASSy
airek:

i think halcyon's over at his computer typing up a long response about the show - we just watched it, so i'll keep mine brief. i thought they did a great job with the topic of burning man considering the audience they target. :thumbsup i love that in the end there were members of the family who 'got it' and those who didn't - it's not for everybody. :)


1000% true. i am glad you guys saw what they tried to do.

Halcyon 09-30-2005 09:03 PM

well...

first off, I have tried to explain a bit of why Burning Man is spiritual to me here: http://halcyon.lustmonkey.com

As for the show, I was impressed. And I thought it was funny. It did not make fun of Burning Man. It *poked* fun of certain aspects, teased some people, but mostly, it showed respect and showed much more than boobies and crazies on drugs.

I'm happily surprised. The best mainstream portrayal to date.

tASSy 09-30-2005 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild
I'm not attacking your beliefs at all. I'm questioning them. There's a marked difference.

Since you brought it up though, I will say that I find many of your "spiritual beliefs" to be silly at best, "playa".

ok. you questioned, i answered.

i don't think you have a clue about my spiritual beliefs - and i'm not a player.

Halcyon 09-30-2005 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tASSy


...and i'm not a player.

...she just crushes alot.

seeric 09-30-2005 09:08 PM

where actually is the threshold of on a groups (less than 100,00) belief being more qualified or appreciated by society than another, or equal to actulally? that is my question. what if burning man was the next mecca in 200 years, 500 years? is that fathomable to people? burning man is very much like mecca. it is a crusade, annually, very, very much like mecca. you may have chosen a bad example warchld?

seeric 09-30-2005 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon
well...

first off, I have tried to explain a bit of why Burning Man is spiritual to me here: http://halcyon.lustmonkey.com

I'm happily surprised. (about the show) The best mainstream portrayal to date.


i thought you would be.

i think the very carefully walked the line. the performance art part of it was great. the dad was classic.

WarChild 09-30-2005 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tASSy


ok. you questioned, i answered.

i don't think you have a clue about my spiritual beliefs - and i'm not a player.

Fair enough. You're right, I only see what's on the surface, of course.

My mistake on the playa reference, I never even stopped to think you meant it literally. I should have, it seemed really out of place and that's why I keyed on it. My bad there.
Quote:

i can only assume it's your ignorance of the spirituality of the playa;

WarChild 09-30-2005 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon
well...

first off, I have tried to explain a bit of why Burning Man is spiritual to me here: http://halcyon.lustmonkey.com

As for the show, I was impressed. And I thought it was funny. It did not make fun of Burning Man. It *poked* fun of certain aspects, teased some people, but mostly, it showed respect and showed much more than boobies and crazies on drugs.

I'm happily surprised. The best mainstream portrayal to date.

I'll take the time to read your Burning Man Essays later when I have more time. I've enjoyed some of your writings before. Most probably that's because it's a point of view so very different from my own.

seeric 09-30-2005 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild
I'll take the time to read your Burning Man Essays later when I have more time. I've enjoyed some of your writings before. Most probably that's because it's a point of view so very different from my own.

they rock man! :thumbsup :thumbsup

WarChild 09-30-2005 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K
where actually is the threshold of on a groups (less than 100,00) belief being more qualified or appreciated by society than another, or equal to actulally? that is my question. what if burning man was the next mecca in 200 years, 500 years? is that fathomable to people? burning man is very much like mecca. it is a crusade, annually, very, very much like mecca. you may have chosen a bad example warchld?

Maybe it will be the next Mecca. Who's to say?

I don't know about comparing things to organized religions though. I find all organized and structured religions to be a crutch for the weak. A need to believe in something coupled with an inabillity to think as an individual. I actually have a marked distain for religion. It's the greatest tool the strong use to control the weak. :2 cents:

seeric 09-30-2005 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild
Maybe it will be the next Mecca. Who's to say?

I don't know about comparing things to organized religions though. I find all organized and structured religions to be crutch for the weak. A need to believe in something coupled with an inabillity to think as an individual. I actually have a marked distain for religion. It's the greatest tool the strong use to control the weak. :2 cents:

thats the reason burning man is so bomb. your belief is reality. its a celebaration of individualism. religion is included in that. one thing i do know is that burning man does not try to control anybody, anytime. its just not that way.

:)

tASSy 09-30-2005 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild
Fair enough. You're right, I only see what's on the surface, of course.

My mistake on the playa reference, I never even stopped to think you meant it literally. I should have, it seemed really out of place and that's why I keyed on it. My bad there.


haha, i have a similar issue with all the current slang in songs, when a person is referred to as a "playa," i think "how odd, they're a plot of desert salt flats..."

i like being silly on the surface =)

Halcyon 09-30-2005 09:41 PM

Someone sent us this pic today:

http://static.flickr.com/30/48176578_4d98e18a14_o.jpg

Halcyon 09-30-2005 09:43 PM

http://static.flickr.com/29/48176580_254ab52f40.jpg


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