I'm completely done with the blatant lies this industry produces
 

As we all know very well, due to dilution and numerous other factors conversion ratios in this industry are getting worse and worse. Once they may have been good, but those days are over. Ratios of 1:50, 1:100 or even 1:200 are not real, whatever the source of traffic may be. I have the purest kind of direct navigation traffic out there, and I ain't seein' any of the dough promised by so many people!

Unlike in any other industry, program owners in adult seem to miss every bit of self-control or decency when talking about their profitability. A bit of advertising to promote a product is fine with me, but why exaggerate into the absurd?

And if they aren't program owners, why are people lying about their ratios? To brag, to make themselves look good? If they would only have half a brain they'd understand all their bluff will only lead to further deterioration of their profits.

When EvilChris, who mismanages his paysites, who lies to both his members and webmasters (for example about the frequency of updates, some paysites - who claim to update once a week - haven't been updated for over 8 months) produces another obvious lie by saying one of his sites is converting at 1:44, why don't we all just laugh?

I'm glad I'm out of here.

Errrr.

Bye.

I might stick around just a tad longer myself.

I've been here for years, and I've made good money. Adult has taught me how to do that, now I'll project my knowledge to other facets of the internet.

the money is what keeps me around :)

im under 1:20 right now

how ya like those green apples?

Why do you say such a thing? Everyone knows it's nonsense, and the few that don't will only cause you to make less! The only reason I can think of is a lack of brain capacity.

It's an industry standard to bullshit.
Just like how ALL programs count hits differently and usually don't count them correctly.
You've been on the board for a year with 6000 posts and haven't come to terms with it yet?

put your money where your mouth is

ive got 500 bucks paypal right now says im under 1:20 with a very popular sponsor right here on this board.

agree and ill be more then happy to let you log into my stats and check for yourself.

put up.. or shut up. just becouse YOU cant pull those ratios dont mean that EVERYONE cant.

what you need is some thai hookers you can eat a pound of bacon off of

Just curious - are those raw, unique, join page, ??? hits ?

dont we all?

what traffic? members area?

raws
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blah blah blah and people steal money from the church collection.

all industries are filled with crooks and liars.

wherever there is business there will be greed and greed is the #1 motivating factor for scammers, crooks, and conmen.

i could tell you but id have to kill you.

you see the problem here right?

so.. bluff big boy.. wanna take the bet or not bozo?

Good luck with that.

:thumbsup

rumor has it rentatroll shaves like a fuck

you order 3 trolls and only get 1 who acts like 3 and gets into fights with himself using a network of fake nicks

any truth to this FLETCH??

I don't even care about what brand0n does or not. I'm 100% sure he's not doing 1:20 overall, maybe only with one tiny, overfiltered portion of his traffic.

Come on, what makes this guy so dumb? Brand0n can you even remotely grasp what I said about traffic dilution? You're a clueless retard.

All this rant and then you pick on one individual?? :2 cents:

Brand0n, your stupidity put a huge smile on my face, honestly :-)

EvilChris was the last straw, but I won't deny the fact that his blatant nonsense and deceptive advertising have been bothering me for years.

you wont take the bet.

you are all talk and no action. a big wiff of hot air at best.

now cower back into your crawl space and be the bitch that you are. i dont know what i was thinking when i said "man up" but i shoulda guess that was an impossible task for yourself.

you run your trap with out anything to back it up, and when i offer clear proof with a price you blah blah blah your way out of it..

if you are so FUCKIN SURE then its a fast 500 bucks in your paypal account now isnt it?

i guess you arent really that fucking sure at all are you.. your actions clearly state that, as youll come up with some more blah blah blah to avoid the true issue.

Oh man, you make me laugh! Do you really not understand that with all your bragging and talking nonsense you're only ruining your own market?

Brand0n, you say you're converting under 1:20 overall, counting all your adult traffic and all your signups, across all sponsors?

Fortunately for us your statement is wrong. I have people doing under 1/100 for 5 of our sites. As a few have pointed out, they are doing the same with other programs and their traffic. Sorry that you haven't been able to attain those numbers, but it's not always BS.

Amazing Evil Chris, the straw that broke the camels back :1orglaugh

But it's FAR from a standard! The number of those few may not be more than 2-3, on how many? How do they filter? We both know I'm right.

Anyone can approach a 1:1 ratio when he filters well enough, that is not what I mean.

like i said blah blah blah to avoid the fact

hey dumb fuck. 500 bucks in your pocket. just say yes. you know ive got to be full of shit right?

how bout this.. ill go one fucking futher..

im under 1:10 with a sponsor here. did 4 sales with them yesterday. under 1:10

hows that grab ya fluffer?

same bet goes, 500 bucks says im telling the truth. if im full of shit, its a quick half a q right to your paypal account.

again.. put up or shut up...

going to the store, be back in 20

No, you moron.

Brand0n: how about I average over $3.50 per unique to my sites? You clueless idiot, shut up, I'm done with you.

No, we both don't know you're right. Sometimes I think you're a legend in your own mind!

hey i said "blah blah blah" first in this thread.

;)

I think his point is how people "filter" to get those ratios.

I've done 1:39, 1:20 for a sponsor in one day a couple of times, but over a decent period of time those numbers are more like 1:500.

heh, I like you.

Still, we both know I'm right, or you just are yet to find out. Sorry.

Btw by no means am I a legend ;-)

Do you have it trademarked?? :upsidedow

I don't know about evil chris's 1:44 cos my CR with littlesummer is around 1:3400 with no rebills out of 5 signups since I started sending it traffic but 5 signups not nuff to judge rebills with.

However, "Ratios of 1:50, 1:100 or even 1:200 are not real, whatever the source of traffic may be" is not at all true.. maybe right if you're talking overall conversion but not for every individual. I do that day in and day out with certain proggies and know many others do the same. Trust me the "Source/target of traffic does matter" :winkwink:

Plenty of people pull in consistent low ratios, thats all there is to it.

LOL, I already pointed out that with enough filtering anyone can approach 1:1. My point is overall.