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TheDoc 07-29-2005 10:57 AM

Your Favorite Adult Companies Give Up Info To Gov
 
I was reading over the FTC?s website about this spam crap that recently took place. What I found was mind blowing. This isn?t a bash against the companies that settled but it is fucked up. They agreed to some very fucked up terms. Companies that settled are: (BangBros.com Inc, RK NetMedia Inc, Ox Ideas, Inc) (MD Media) (APC Entertainment Inc)(Pure Marketing Solutions LLC) (Internet Matrix Technology )

You can read it yourself: Go to July 20th.
http://www.ftc.gov/os/2005/07/index.htm#20
Read the Stipulated Order ? Sections 4 & 5

Here is just a cut of a few things they must provide:
?A list that identifies every person who is marketing or promoting, through
commercial email messages, any goods or services of a Defendant since
entry of this Order;? ? U.S. mailers you are fucked, complaint or not.

?Accounting records that reflect revenue generated by sales to individuals
through an affiliate program and corresponding disbursements to participants
Defendant?s affiliate program on an individual basis, including copies
recently deposited check for each such participant paid by check;? ? The rest of us.

You should read everything they have to give up. And you should thank the companies that said NO to these agreements: (T.J. Web Productions LLC) (Cyberheat Inc.) (Impulse Media Group)

So the GOV can?t get a list of people to bust for 2257 because of the FSC, but now they have a list, a rather large list.

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Some info about spam and MicroShit?s BS company..

Paragaph Cuts From This Article By NWSource
"Microsoft provided help with the FTC's investigation upon the agency's request, said Microsoft attorney Aaron Kornblum. It offered evidence and analysis of e-mails received in more than 130,000 free Hotmail accounts set up several years ago as "traps," he said."

?The traps have been in place since 2003?

?The company has also filed more than 100 lawsuits against spammers and 119 against so-called phishers?

?Kornblum said Microsoft's 12 full-time Internet-safety attorneys, investigators and paralegals first collect evidence?

MickeyG 07-29-2005 10:59 AM

damn thats some dirty shit. :mad:

eroswebmaster 07-29-2005 11:00 AM

Shit - Meet fan.

Since 2003 huh? Something tells me this is only the beginning.

And as far as giving up info in settlements. Wow.

Snake Doctor 07-29-2005 11:02 AM

Well at least it says they only have to give up information on affiliates who promote via email, not all the affiliates.

But yeah, props to the companies who are fighting this.

SCORE Ralph 07-29-2005 11:06 AM

Good find, Doc. Thanks for the link...

TheDoc 07-29-2005 11:10 AM

Just so you know some of the agreements are different. I won't call out names but this is part of some peoples agreements.

"A list of all names under which each Defendant did or currently does business since entry of this Order;"

p1mpdogg 07-29-2005 11:12 AM

bangbros and pipecrew fucked their mailers lol

classy

OldSchoolJim 07-29-2005 11:14 AM

Is this the part where ithe IRS gets involved?

High Plains Drifter 07-29-2005 11:15 AM

Could somebody translate those companies into the programs that they run...

p1mpdogg 07-29-2005 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinnywussy
Could somebody translate those companies into the programs that they run...


bangbros.com Inc = bangbros thats all you need to know

polish_aristocrat 07-29-2005 11:17 AM

looks like it applies only to mailers and not affiliates...

TheDoc 07-29-2005 11:18 AM

BangBros.com Inc, RK NetMedia Inc, Ox Ideas, Inc
http://www.bangbrosonline.com
http://www.nastydollars.com
http://www.oxcash.com

APC Entertainment Inc
www.adultplayersclub.com

Pure Marketing Solutions LLC
http://www.purecash.com

MD Media
http://www.pimproll.com (aka ARS)

Not sure..
Internet Matrix Technology

Machete_ 07-29-2005 11:19 AM

big deal, I really dont se any problem in that.. so what they have our mail adresses.
the only people that have something to fear it the spammers, and they pretty much dont care since most is set up outside the us

tony286 07-29-2005 11:20 AM

I told you Tax evasion is so much easier then going for a obscenity charge. All those people that want to get paid by epassporte who see it as a way to get around the system. The system will find you ,they always do.

TheDoc 07-29-2005 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat
looks like it applies only to mailers and not affiliates...

They ALL have to provide either a list of ALL clients (webmasters) or accounting records of ALL webmasters. They do get a list one way or another.

p1mpdogg 07-29-2005 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebus_dk
big deal, I really dont se any problem in that.. so what they have our mail adresses.
the only people that have something to fear it the spammers, and they pretty much dont care since most is set up outside the us


keep on believing that.

tell us what it was like to be served by the ftc or the fbi or whoever does what they do to spammers. blanket prosecution, are you familiar with that?

its when they throw out a big net and real everyone in... then they ask questions later.

good luck!

Linkster 07-29-2005 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc
?Accounting records that reflect revenue generated by sales to individuals
through an affiliate program and corresponding disbursements to participants
Defendant?s affiliate program on an individual basis, including copies
recently deposited check for each such participant paid by check;? ? The rest of us.

That part of it was ALL affiliates - not just people that were doing emails - and is the part where they gave up all of their WMs :(

eroswebmaster 07-29-2005 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg
bangbros.com Inc = bangbros thats all you need to know


"Well, no shit!"

:1orglaugh poking fun at bangbros audio mouseover. :winkwink:

Rinaldo 07-29-2005 11:23 AM

Wow the link is a long read

High Plains Drifter 07-29-2005 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc
BangBros.com Inc, RK NetMedia Inc, Ox Ideas, Inc
http://www.bangbrosonline.com
http://www.nastydollars.com
http://www.oxcash.com

APC Entertainment Inc
www.adultplayersclub.com

Pure Marketing Solutions LLC
http://www.purecash.com

MD Media
http://www.pimproll.com (aka ARS)

Not sure..
Internet Matrix Technology

Nice... here's the info on Internet Matrix Technology:

"Defendant IMT is one of the webmasters that participates in Pure Marketing?saffiliate program. IMT also participates in other, similar affiliate programs. 10. IMT advertises and promotes Pure Marketing?s web sites through widelydistributed commercial emailmessages that contain sexuallyexplicit pictures or text. Sinceatleast August 17, 2004, Defendant IMT hasmailed numerous email messagesthat advertiseand promote Pure Marketing?s commercial web sites to computers used in interstate orforeign commerce and communication."

TheDoc 07-29-2005 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinnywussy
Nice... here's the info on Internet Matrix Technology:

"Defendant IMT is one of the webmasters that participates in Pure Marketing?saffiliate program. IMT also participates in other, similar affiliate programs. 10. IMT advertises and promotes Pure Marketing?s web sites through widelydistributed commercial emailmessages that contain sexuallyexplicit pictures or text. Sinceatleast August 17, 2004, Defendant IMT hasmailed numerous email messagesthat advertiseand promote Pure Marketing?s commercial web sites to computers used in interstate orforeign commerce and communication."


This sounds like the company that pointed the finger.

p1mpdogg 07-29-2005 11:30 AM

glad i dont mail anymore, bangbros would have ruined my life :(

RIP bangbros

cocksuckers
lol

die bitches.. p.s. i <3 pipecrew

OldSchoolJim 07-29-2005 11:33 AM

There will be a TON of irs fallout from this....this is how they will tie everything together....you are talking about a list of ALL affiliates of some pretty big proggies...AND COPIES OF THEIR LAST PAYMENTS!

Which may mean cancelled checks which have the individuals bank account #'s on them.....pretty easy to follow that info......bad times for the larger affiliates who promoted these programs......

Theo 07-29-2005 11:34 AM

they are not the only one that did that. This started 3 years ago.

Tanker 07-29-2005 11:34 AM

Wow is all I can say

Glad I dont do biz with any of them

TheDoc 07-29-2005 11:35 AM

Knowing this is ROUND 1 kinda worries me.. The FTC IS going after more companies, which means more information, more settlements, etc.. I wonder who is next to fight?

xxxice 07-29-2005 11:36 AM

So free email programs are done i take it ?

TheDoc 07-29-2005 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2getit
There will be a TON of irs fallout from this....this is how they will tie everything together....you are talking about a list of ALL affiliates of some pretty big proggies...AND COPIES OF THEIR LAST PAYMENTS!

Which may mean cancelled checks which have the individuals bank account #'s on them.....pretty easy to follow that info......bad times for the larger affiliates who promoted these programs......


I pay my company taxes on every dime I earn so I'm not worried.. Check, Wires, Epassport Payments, etc.. But I guess I can see were some webmasters should be worried. I do know of a few "smaller" guys that just pocket the money.. Looks like the IRS will be busy.

Theo 07-29-2005 11:39 AM

hey tanker, did you receive my email?

p1mpdogg 07-29-2005 11:41 AM

glad i have paid my taxes the last 5 years lol

sucks that i pay so much though..


Dear president bush... will you please give better tax breaks to the rich and fuck the poor more?

thanks
trey

bigdog 07-29-2005 11:42 AM

Who is considered a mailer though? If you have a guy who has some little opt in list doing 3 joins a day was his info given up also

Manowar 07-29-2005 11:43 AM

dayum :/

woj 07-29-2005 11:44 AM

sucks to be a mailer promoting those companies...

bigdog 07-29-2005 11:44 AM

who is tj web productions?

OldSchoolJim 07-29-2005 11:44 AM

Quote:

I pay my company taxes on every dime I earn so I'm not worried
This is a common quote...but my accountant tells me...they can ALWAYS find something.....i do not know many folks who come through an audit totally unscathed.....maybe an auto lease mis-represented....maybe some entertainment over exempted...something is ALWAYS there......the drama of just sitting through an audit is enough to make you sick....

WiredGuy 07-29-2005 11:45 AM

I'm not particularly worried. So the FTC has my address now, big deal. I'm not in violation of any 2257's, I don't mail and I'm paying my taxes. The IRS had this information anyways, so if there was any actions the FTC wanted to pursue, it just took a court order to the IRS to release it. They just simplified the process as far as I'm concerned.
WG

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 07-29-2005 11:48 AM


WiredGuy 07-29-2005 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2getit
This is a common quote...but my accountant tells me...they can ALWAYS find something.....i do not know many folks who come through an audit totally unscathed.....maybe an auto lease mis-represented....maybe some entertainment over exempted...something is ALWAYS there......the drama of just sitting through an audit is enough to make you sick....

Yup, I went through a 2 year federal investigation. Clean as could be. Had 2 accounting errors (we admitted to and paid for it), and too many business expenses related to travel. I thought they were all legit but hey, they'll find something to justify their time. It's not something I want to relive anytime soon.
WG

SomeCreep 07-29-2005 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdog
who is tj web productions?

adultpaymaster

p1mpdogg 07-29-2005 11:52 AM

p.s. Mr Bush, please pardon ALL my relatives for doing bad things. they didnt mean it.
thanks again
trey


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