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sonofsam 07-15-2005 04:03 PM

What are your opinions on trials on solo sites?
 
i'm trying it out, 1.95 a 1 day trial, recurring at 29.95

monthly membership option for 24.95..

what do you guys think? i've been told by some that a trial on a solo site is a nono.. but equal amount of people telling me its a good thing....

thoughts?

After Shock Media 07-15-2005 04:04 PM

Trials suck.

"Rocky" 07-15-2005 04:05 PM

As for me, i think that trials are very bad idea for non-nude sites, but not very bad for totally nude... IMHO.

slapass 07-15-2005 04:06 PM

Are you making good cash on your previous client list? cross sales? upsales? You get more clients but in a single girl site retention is low.

Just my 2 cents and I do not own one.

Sly 07-15-2005 04:07 PM

Consider your sources.

Who is telling you trials are good? Who is telling you trials are bad?

Base your decision off of that.

Though I think 1-day trials on one solo site is a huge mistake. If you had a network of sites, ok maybe, but you only have one. The surfer will download all of the content within minutes.

sonofsam 07-15-2005 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass
Are you making good cash on your previous client list? cross sales? upsales? You get more clients but in a single girl site retention is low.

Just my 2 cents and I do not own one.

site has been live for 2 days

After Shock Media 07-15-2005 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly
Consider your sources.

Who is telling you trials are good? Who is telling you trials are bad?

Base your decision off of that.

Though I think 1-day trials on one solo site is a huge mistake. If you had a network of sites, ok maybe, but you only have one. The surfer will download all of the content within minutes.

This situation trials are bad m'kay.

sonofsam 07-15-2005 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly
Consider your sources.

Who is telling you trials are good? Who is telling you trials are bad?

Base your decision off of that.

Though I think 1-day trials on one solo site is a huge mistake. If you had a network of sites, ok maybe, but you only have one. The surfer will download all of the content within minutes.

Suggest making my monthly price lower, overall?

24.95 isn't that the lowest most solo sites go for monthly?

VIPimp 07-15-2005 04:10 PM

bakirrrrammm trial mekonam

Sly 07-15-2005 04:11 PM

Aye... you have much to learn young grass hopper. I hope you have your own traffic to test this stuff out on, otherwise you're just going to piss off and lose your affiliates.

sonofsam 07-15-2005 04:12 PM

Maybe i'm jumping the gun.... i'm just paranoid because a couple good listings and some paid traffic didn't yeild any sales...

yes thats right, no sales..i'm more honest then i should be... thats why i'm looking for beta testers and not open to all affiliates :)

but.. is my tour okay? is it normal for paid listings to not yeild sales right away with a new site? will people bookmark the site and signup later maybe? is my monthly price too high??

i have so many doubts

sonofsam 07-15-2005 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly
Aye... you have much to learn young grass hopper. I hope you have your own traffic to test this stuff out on, otherwise you're just going to piss off and lose your affiliates.

i tell all my affiliates the truth before they promote, and i help them personally get set up... i'm new to this and everyone knows that... :)

sonofsam 07-15-2005 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VIPimp
bakirrrrammm trial mekonam

:1orglaugh

DamageX 07-15-2005 04:16 PM

Picture this. How much content do you have in there NOW? How often are you promising your members to update and how hot/varied is your content? If YOU took a look inside, would you rebill?

abyss_al 07-15-2005 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VIPimp
bakirrrrammm trial mekonam


:1orglaugh

boro gom sho trails!!! boro gom sho!

uno 07-15-2005 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam
Maybe i'm jumping the gun.... i'm just paranoid because a couple good listings and some paid traffic didn't yeild any sales...

yes thats right, no sales..i'm more honest then i should be... thats why i'm looking for beta testers and not open to all affiliates :)

but.. is my tour okay? is it normal for paid listings to not yeild sales right away with a new site? will people bookmark the site and signup later maybe? is my monthly price too high??

i have so many doubts

Try a tour with pages smaller than half a meg.

uno 07-15-2005 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abyss_al
:1orglaugh

boro gom sho trails!!! boro gom sho!

Are you guys quoting Hairy Pooter?

abyss_al 07-15-2005 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uno
Are you guys quoting Hairy Pooter?


yes.. im trying to turn SoS into a goat so i can sacrifice him to my gods...

iwantchixx 07-15-2005 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly
Consider your sources.

Who is telling you trials are good? Who is telling you trials are bad?

Base your decision off of that.

Though I think 1-day trials on one solo site is a huge mistake. If you had a network of sites, ok maybe, but you only have one. The surfer will download all of the content within minutes.

I have to agree on this one.

bigdog 07-15-2005 04:42 PM

do a limited trial members area, so they have to upgrade to see the whole site

sonofsam 07-15-2005 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abyss_al
yes.. im trying to turn SoS into a goat so i can sacrifice him to my gods...

last time i make you a fansign :disgust

rml1608 07-15-2005 06:32 PM

Hey SOS, GL With everything...

I think the only trial even conceivable on an amateur site (especially if you aren't offering special offers on the cancellation to multiple other single girl sites for the price of one etc) is a limited trial membership.

I am yet to hear results good or bad from anyone about solo girl sites and limited trial memberships. AS a surfer limited trials seriously piss me off, ran into one last night when I was surfing for the first time in AGES...

However if it was stated up front the trial was 'limited access' on the join page, and the limited trial price was appropriate ($1.00 I would guess) I could see it working well if you treat it properly.

Signup ratios could feasibly be lower than a straight pay per month site which puts you in between straight up paid monthlys and trial sites.. But you have to keep in mind, you are selling them twice - Literally!

sonofsam 07-15-2005 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rml1608
Hey SOS, GL With everything...

I think the only trial even conceivable on an amateur site (especially if you aren't offering special offers on the cancellation to multiple other single girl sites for the price of one etc) is a limited trial membership.

I am yet to hear results good or bad from anyone about solo girl sites and limited trial memberships. AS a surfer limited trials seriously piss me off, ran into one last night when I was surfing for the first time in AGES...

However if it was stated up front the trial was 'limited access' on the join page, and the limited trial price was appropriate ($1.00 I would guess) I could see it working well if you treat it properly.

Signup ratios could feasibly be lower than a straight pay per month site which puts you in between straight up paid monthlys and trial sites.. But you have to keep in mind, you are selling them twice - Literally!

hey buddy long time no talk, hope all is well with you and thanks for the suggestions... i have another big listing tonight... and am gonna try a 4.95 three day trial and see how that does... if it doesn't do that well.. its back to the drawing board :)

rml1608 07-15-2005 06:40 PM

Hope life is treating you well :)

I'll be honest with you, regular trials aren't worth it - These two are the same

One Month Signups with a 1:1500 signup ratio
Three Day $4.95 Trial with a 1:700 signup ratio

You just have to find other things to tweak besides the trials ;)

sonofsam 07-15-2005 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rml1608
Hope life is treating you well :)

I'll be honest with you, regular trials aren't worth it - These two are the same

One Month Signups with a 1:1500 signup ratio
Three Day $4.95 Trial with a 1:700 signup ratio

You just have to find other things to tweak besides the trials ;)

anything off the top of your head you would change about my tour?

abyss_al 07-15-2005 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam
last time i make you a fansign :disgust


:1orglaugh

V_RocKs 07-16-2005 12:35 AM

Trials on a single site are bad. If you do it, do something semi valuable.

$9.95 for a 7 day trail.

Why? Because the surfer is literally going to download your entire site. So get paid... \

Trails work for Nasty Dollars because you cannot possibly download all of the content in 3 days... Unless you are going to cue shit for 72 hours straight... Oddly enough, 3day weekends are the most often bought and cancelled with 100% downloaded...

BiggleJones 07-16-2005 01:04 AM

Wow...no sales REALLY suprises me. When I put up my first solo girl site, the girl was about the same level of hottness as Julia, and we probably got 50 sales our first week. If I were you, I would really start spamming the surfer forums with pics of your girl. I dont think you need to change your tour at all either. The design is clean and the photos are nice and sharp.

I would STRONGLY recommend opening up to all affiliates. You need as many people getting your site out there as possible. Make some hosted galleries are submit them to a few places yourself even. Because Julia is a new girl, this should be one of your most profitable times. People love a new face.

Just my :2 cents: ...hope it helps some.

...Oh yea....dont do trials.


...Oh yea again...800 Wooo Hoooo!!!

sonofsam 07-16-2005 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiggleJones
Wow...no sales REALLY suprises me. When I put up my first solo girl site, the girl was about the same level of hottness as Julia, and we probably got 50 sales our first week. If I were you, I would really start spamming the surfer forums with pics of your girl. I dont think you need to change your tour at all either. The design is clean and the photos are nice and sharp.

I would STRONGLY recommend opening up to all affiliates. You need as many people getting your site out there as possible. Make some hosted galleries are submit them to a few places yourself even. Because Julia is a new girl, this should be one of your most profitable times. People love a new face.

Just my :2 cents: ...hope it helps some.

...Oh yea....dont do trials.


...Oh yea again...800 Wooo Hoooo!!!

think it would be smart to purchase nats right away??? because paycom stats are horrid and i don't think any affiliate would want to promote a program with paycom stats

V_RocKs 07-16-2005 03:07 AM

I think adding Paycom as a billing option in a cascade is going to make you more money. But it is like using solar panels on the roof of a home, it will make you money, but cost you more upfront. If you can afford to buy NATS and add Paycom to the cascade, you will be making more money and paying this venture off faster in the medium to long run.

MaDalton 07-16-2005 03:35 AM

i do better with www.lovelyvanessa.com since i killed the trial option. i do the same amount in sales, but now each at 19.95 (which i think is enough for a single girl site without liveshows). and the amount of people who do 39.95 non-recurring memberships seriuosly increased since then. :2 cents:

rml1608 07-17-2005 08:00 PM

Hey S.O.S. Hope things turned for the better for you :)

Only thing I saw that FLEW out at me as somehting I would change was the top right pic on the first page - That pic doesn't do her justice :) It's amazing how a slight angle change can alter the way a woman looks soooo much. Since you are trying to THROW SEX APPEAL in the surfers face on the first page they see loaded that pic should have the same raw sex appeal the other 'sexier' pictures of her on the tour do...

Maybe it's just me?? But for a single girl model picture I am sure oyu have a better one that would fit up there ... Some skin, maybe a underwear shot from the side with her tugging at her panties and back arched the right way etc... Sure you can find one :) And like I said, may just be me on that one pic

sonofsam 07-17-2005 08:03 PM

the first page one on the right? dude i love that pic :)

the one on the top left i think i'm going to change though...

rml1608 07-17-2005 08:06 PM

A little airbrushing on the first page left one you are talkign about to make that round ass with the samek tone of skin color all the way around... and you are set :)

Although the hair does say "I just got fucked" not "Come fuck me" :1orglaugh

sonofsam 07-17-2005 08:06 PM

:1orglaugh

tony286 07-17-2005 08:07 PM

hate trials they go in and download the whole site for 2-5 bucks fuck that.

sonofsam 07-17-2005 08:07 PM

i'm taking the trials off btw

Halcyon 07-17-2005 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam
Maybe i'm jumping the gun.... i'm just paranoid because a couple good listings and some paid traffic didn't yeild any sales...

yes thats right, no sales..i'm more honest then i should be... thats why i'm looking for beta testers and not open to all affiliates :)

but.. is my tour okay? is it normal for paid listings to not yeild sales right away with a new site? will people bookmark the site and signup later maybe? is my monthly price too high??

i have so many doubts

Hey, just wanted to say I'm in a similar situation with pinkgasm.com...or a little behind you (no affiliates yet). So I really appreciate your candor and sharing. Wishing you good luck!

pornguy 07-17-2005 08:08 PM

want to do your self a favor, make them 9.99 for 30 days, and then rebill at 29 or 39.

ULVideo 07-17-2005 08:11 PM

Are you planning on doing ANY PPS, or only revshare?


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