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Gateway69 06-27-2005 02:43 PM

OMG: U.S. Scientists Create Zombie Dogs
 
i saw this on /. today.. holy fuck..

Alex_Ionescu writes "U.S. scientists have managed to revive dead dogs to life, by using a technique similar to cryogenation, in which the dogs' blood was drained and replaced by a cold, saline liquid. A couple of hours, their blood was replaced, and an electric shock brought them back to life with no brain damage. The technology will be tested on humans within the next year."

http://science.slashdot.org/article....23259&from=rss

Paraskass 06-27-2005 02:45 PM

bush will ban this now.
it's fucking god's work.

LOL

Manowar 06-27-2005 02:48 PM

Holy fucking shit.


WICKED :thumbsup

tical 06-27-2005 02:48 PM

woah, thats crazy... i got some top secret pics from da gubment

http://www.mostlycloudy.net/~schally...es/re2dog2.jpg

jacked 06-27-2005 02:50 PM

thats pretty fucking shot didn't think they would be able to do anything of this sort for a long time

Machete_ 06-27-2005 02:55 PM

If you belive that, then I have a about 1000 feet tall steeltower for sale in Paris .. whats your best offer?-

MattO 06-27-2005 03:00 PM

It's not as though the fluid is bringing the dog back to life, what's happening is it's putting the dog's bodies into stasis, which after the blood is replaced, can be re-started.

Say if someone had a stroke or the like, they could quickly drain out their blood and replace it with the fluid, thus stopping any metabolism, while then being able to take their time fixing the problems.

BiggleJones 06-27-2005 03:02 PM

http://www.biggletech.com/stuff/zombiedog.jpg

those scientists need a good PR firm....this pic doesnt put peoples mind at ease. :2 cents:

Adultnet 06-27-2005 03:05 PM

This sound like a since fiction :)

eroswebmaster 06-27-2005 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiggleJones
http://www.biggletech.com/stuff/zombiedog.jpg

those scientists need a good PR firm....this pic doesnt put peoples mind at ease. :2 cents:

LOL yeah makes you think it's going to be Pet Sematary all over.

Walt Disney is on the loose!!! Run!!! :1orglaugh

BigRod 06-27-2005 03:07 PM

BiggleJones....fuck I love your sig that cracks me up

tical 06-27-2005 03:09 PM

anyone reg zombieporn.com yet?

boner 2.0 06-27-2005 03:10 PM

Crazy shit... :helpme :eek7

S P A N N O W 06-27-2005 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiggleJones

If they drained my blood, killed me and brought me back - I'd be mad too! :mad:

bringer 06-27-2005 03:21 PM

cool, maybe it'll be like pet cemetery

FilthyRob 06-27-2005 03:25 PM

Oh great, dead dogs coming back. I hope they don't do my old dog. She was a pain in the ass.

God rest her soul. :-)

Janet Reno 06-27-2005 03:27 PM

so if you kill your wife, then bring her back to life, can you be charged with murder?

sweetME 06-27-2005 03:29 PM

If it's true, that's crazy

Rui 06-27-2005 03:31 PM

Wicked, cant wait to see how this pans out :)

DWB 06-27-2005 03:40 PM

i don't know what to say. if that's true... oh shit.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-27-2005 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bringer
cool, maybe it'll be like pet cemetery

Thats what I thought to.
I can not recall any animal being actually dead for 3 hours then smacked back into a living one. Blood draining and all with near zero molecular movement.

Fucker was dead as nails.

They bring it back, humm...

Lets see if the dogs the same:)

I never been a ghost and ghoul sorta thinker though, moe so along the science end. I can't wait to hear what religeon has to say about this one.

Machete_ 06-27-2005 04:43 PM

if your brain is without oxygen for more than 30 seconds, you are braindead. And NOTHING will kickstart a brain.. that is only in the movies that work. Your brain simply CAN NOT restart

= BULLSHIT story

a1ka1ine 06-27-2005 04:50 PM

ahahahah rofl. that picture has been selected by the news company surely, i cant believe the scientists would show such a picture to inspire confidence, unless they were pitching it to the military!

Code_Havoc 06-27-2005 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janet Reno
so if you kill your wife, then bring her back to life, can you be charged with murder?

Oh I hope not. :winkwink:

hottoddy 06-27-2005 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gateway69
OMG: U.S. Scientists Create Zombie Dogs

... and Arabs are scared to death of dogs. You do the math. :1orglaugh

GatorB 06-27-2005 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gateway69
i saw this on /. today.. holy fuck..

Alex_Ionescu writes "U.S. scientists have managed to revive dead dogs to life, by using a technique similar to cryogenation, in which the dogs' blood was drained and replaced by a cold, saline liquid. A couple of hours, their blood was replaced, and an electric shock brought them back to life with no brain damage. The technology will be tested on humans within the next year."

http://science.slashdot.org/article....23259&from=rss

I saw on TV over 10 years ago where they did this with a beagle.

Dagwolf 06-27-2005 05:34 PM

http://pissyourself.com/pics/trampol...dedown_web.jpg

iwantchixx 06-27-2005 05:46 PM

whoa, this is creepy. it could lead to keeping people alive a lot longer though and to cryo-freezing that actually works.

GatorB 06-27-2005 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx
whoa, this is creepy. it could lead to keeping people alive a lot longer though and to cryo-freezing that actually works.


Except in this case the person still has to be LIVING when they start the process. How many are going to risk that?

Spunky 06-27-2005 05:54 PM

That is amaizing technology these days

The Bootyologist 06-27-2005 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebus_dk
if your brain is without oxygen for more than 30 seconds, you are braindead. And NOTHING will kickstart a brain.. that is only in the movies that work. Your brain simply CAN NOT restart

= BULLSHIT story

that's not true, you can go longer than 30 seconds without oxygen and not suffer braindamage. where do you get his crap?

"within 5-10 minutes without oxygen or nutrient, degenerative processes begin in the brain"

sniperwolf 06-27-2005 06:01 PM

that's too much playing Resident Evil...

The Bootyologist 06-27-2005 06:04 PM

The 10 minute limit is for slow suffocation at normal temperatures. Two things happen:

- First, many of the tiny valves controlling the distribution of blood in the brain capilaries shut, trying to route the remaining oxygen to the neurons controlling things like breathing and heart rate.

These valves are tiny muscles, which, once contracted, require power (from metabolization) to reopen. Let them be oxygen-starved for too long - about ten minutes - and they get stuck closed. Then, even once oxygen is restored, the blood remains cut off to the areas they control. (It does no good to raise the blood pressure to try to force blood past them: You'll blow the plumbing before they leak. Massive stroke.)

- Second: As with the muscles, the neurons have continuous chemical reactions going on that cause damage that must be cleaned up by active, powered, systems. Turn down the oxygen while leaving the temperature up and the cleanup systems fail while the damage mechanisms continue. (Firing the nerve uses up additional power, making the problem worse.)

Let this go on for more than half an hour or so without turning the air back on and the damage gets ahead of the nerve's ability to repair it - causing cell death. That ruptures the cell and releases a glutamate - which tends to force other nearby nerves to fire, consuming their resources and speeding their death, in the "glutamate chain reaction". This easily gets started in regions of the brain fed by still-shut-off plumbing. But with enough glutimate dumped it can spread to nearby areas that have adequate oxygen - because it's not adequate to keep ahead of the massive firing and cell exhaustion.

The first mechanism sets the normal time limit. But the second is the final catastrophe.

But diving sets up a condition much like suffocation upon resurfacing: Swimming underwater pressurizes the gas in the lungs, and the organism can remain active for some time before it starts to run out of oxygen. But then it takes time to get back to the surface - and the lowered pressure on the ascent causes oxygen levels in the blood and tissue to crash. Not good.

Evolution came up with a workaround: The "mamilian diving reflex", so called because it's characteristic of all mamals - happened a LONG time back.

When the reflex detects a deep dive (cold on the skin - especially on the back of the neck, I think), it modifies the valves' reaction to overall oxygen shortage: Instead of shutting off blood to "unimportant" (for respiration) parts of the brain, it causes ALL the valves to OPEN. Then if they stick they stick open. This risks speeding respiratory failure. But once (if) oxygen is restored, it allows it to reach ALL the brain. Get oxygen back before the cells start dying (after a half hour or so) and they all get the power they nead to clean up and get on with life.

So if you drown in COLD water you can be breathing-stopped for a half-hour or a bit more and still be restarted with no long-term brain damage.

This treatment seems to extend on that: Flooding with cold saline will activate the diving reflex, sticking the valves open. Then the rapid oxygen loss will shut down all energy-driven metabolism - both the repair and some of the damage-makers.

Meanwhile, the deep cooling of the tissue (to essentially refrigerator temperatures) will slow the other damaging chemical reactions, just as refrigeration slows meat spoilage. (It IS slowing meat spoilage! And 7C is about 45F, close to the 40F recommended for refrigerator settings.) This is probably the main factor in getting past the half-hour limit on cold-drowning.

reynold 06-27-2005 06:13 PM

Well, it's indeed a miracle since Brain will deteriorate without oxygens on it..

Machete_ 06-28-2005 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bootyologist
that's not true, you can go longer than 30 seconds without oxygen and not suffer braindamage. where do you get his crap?

"within 5-10 minutes without oxygen or nutrient, degenerative processes begin in the brain"


I SAID YOUR BRAIN . not YOU !!!
Read up on it before you try to slam me

BiggleJones 06-28-2005 01:29 AM

Good thing we have so many scientists in this thread to prove the story wrong.

Where else are you gonna find people that are Scientists by day and pornographers by night?

:throwup

V_RocKs 06-28-2005 01:57 AM

There are no Cujo's here in this thread and GFY is particularely safe from Cujo at this time.

ImaHogg 06-28-2005 02:27 AM

And what is Sleazy's involvement in this experiment?

VeriSexy 06-28-2005 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hottoddy
... and Arabs are scared to death of dogs. You do the math. :1orglaugh


Good one :1orglaugh

kenny 06-28-2005 03:14 AM

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117...-13762,00.html


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