Rumsfeld:Defeating the insurgency may take as long as 12 years
 

I wonder how much support for the war there would have been had you said this to begin with.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor..._mi_ea/us_iraq

sweet, too bad they don't focus on the war instead of 2257.

didn't they say it will be all over before bush ends his presidency...

didn't they say Iraq had WMD.

Teehee..

No shit huh?
What the Bushies have done is fucking insane...

Bush and Company are guilty of treason.

I think 2257 is when they think Iraqis will be able to defend themselves.

I am not a big fan of Bush but I support the Iraq effort. I would rather kill those bastards over there as opposed to having them kill us here.

Yes "They Did".

It was a blatant lie.

But no no...

Lets not impeach Bush and place his league in prison or anything...

Donald Rumsfeld is one of the most arrogant, sleazy, political bastards ever!

He never fought a day in combat, yet he has the blood on his hands of thousands of Americans and even more foreigners.

His glib attitude to the pain and suffering he has caused whole nations absolutely disgusts me.

May he burn in hell!!!

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What a mess

our goverment can't afford 12 years in Iraq.. they go BK long before that!

In case you didn't get the memo IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9-11.
In fact Iraq is 1000X more of a haven for terrorists NOW than it was before the war.

Exactly. That place is like a magnet for terrorists. They are there now and they will all get exterminated.

Have fun kids!

don't you think in their eyes WE ARE THE TERRORISTS? After all, we're the occupiers that have killed over 100,000 innocent civilians.. most of them women and children!

maybe hes just saying that so when its done in 5 years everyone will be happy

I have many friends that immigrated from Iraq in the early 90s. Their stories influence my opinion of the situation. To a man (and woman) they are all glad that Saddam was brought down and they feel that their relatives, who are still in Iraq, are better off since the U.S. occupation.

Nah, just print more money and keep putting tax dollars to good use :winkwink:

who gives a fuck if they're better off today or not.. last time I checked, Iraq was not part of the USA! We have too many problems here at home that are being ignored due to this great distraction.

if it was only that easy... all our national debt, is owned by asia.. most of it China.. so basicly, they own our asses!

Hate to fill your ignorant head with truth but besides the gulf war Iraq has never killed a single American.

You got that right.
China is the 800 lb gorilla in the living room that nobody wants to recognize.

Well the US want to be free of King George we did it ourselves. And yes, later on Fane and Spain HELP, but WE did most of the work. if the peole of Iraq wanted to be free they should have attempted it themselves. I would have had no problem in suppling training weapons and supplies to any group that wished to topple Saddam, but you've got to PROVE you are willing to put your own ass on the line bfore I'll risk mine for YOUR freedom.

Fact is I can't think of many democracies that exist because someone else freed them.

I am not talking about Iraq.
Iraq has become a magnet for terrorist from all over the world.
The battle is there.

This is true. You have a valid point.

I am not defending anything, I am merely sharing my opinion, which I know is not popular. :Oh crap

Checking out this site now. Looks interesting.

What most people fail to realize is that we really on oil for MANY products other than gasoline.

This statement is just plain fucking stupid. So what are you saying, the only people that hate the US are now in Iraq? The truth is this invasion has created thousands MORE terrorists. Just a matter of time before the US is hit with an attack that will make 9/11 childs play thanks to this bullshit. Hope people like you are happy when it happens.

very true.. after all, we are a nation of only 300 million people, yet we've pissed off OVER ONE BILLION MUSLIMS! and countless billions more!

China?

Wrong -- try again.

To make matter worse, while the Bush people may tell you that the troop number are decreasing in Iraq -- this is a half truth...the number of US troops is decreasing, but the total presense there is increasing and, worse yet, the jobs are being outsourced to mercenerys.

Check this Frontline special out, I found it EXTEMELY interesting:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/warriors/

wait they love us over there

If you were the US military and were planning for a potential war with China. A war which will require massive amounts of fuel.. What part of the world would you want a lot of your troups sitting in? Just a thought...

Well Afghanistan and Iraq for the western front and Korea and Japan for an eastern front.

first of all, maybe i missed it but they did ever find nuclear weapons? (one reason for the war)

You are correct,,,Iraq did not have anything to do with the 9/11 attack...but Iraq plays a major role in the fight against those that are our enemies in the mid east.

If you ask me, Bush has it in his pea brain to just nuke the country.

Nothing like spreading misinformation...now is there?

You may want to try and think again.