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GatorB 05-29-2005 06:54 PM

More retardation by the religious right
 
Of all the problems in the world and especially New Jersey don't they have more important things to worry about?

State Assemblyman Craig Stanley is taking issue with a satanic symbol representing the team, which has won three Stanley Cup championships.

"This is an age where symbolism is very important," said Stanley, a Baptist deacon whose resolution to rename the team is to be introduced in the Assembly next month. A new name would be chosen in a statewide competition.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2071410

GiantGnome 05-29-2005 06:57 PM

OMG Has he no clue about the legend of the New Jersy devil?

GatorB 05-29-2005 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GiantGnome
OMG Has he no clue about the legend of the New Jersy devil?

Yeah and he's an elected offical. You'd think they know about their own state's hsitory.

CDSmith 05-29-2005 07:00 PM

Next he'll lobby to force people to stop saying "dust devil" out west.

And those damned evil Dirt Devil vacuums.... forgetaboutit.

The only thing grossly in need of censoring is right wing religious nuts, as in stamping them out.

Otherwise they proliferate like cancer.

fireorange 05-29-2005 07:02 PM

Religious type give Republicans a bad image, don't think all Republicans are this stupid.
Same with Democrats (but a majority of Democrats are stupid :) )

Terry 05-29-2005 07:04 PM

Some people will do anything for attention... I think I just saw a UFO !!!

Harmon 05-29-2005 07:12 PM

This is like my dubmbass ex brother in law. He is Irish, as well as Catholic... and he was SINCERELY under the belief that Catholics paid homage to St. Patrick.... I mean, we fought for almost 2 hours on the subject and almost came to blows over this shit... pussy :1orglaugh

CDSmith 05-29-2005 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Harmon
This is like my dubmbass ex brother in law. He is Irish, as well as Catholic... and he was SINCERELY under the belief that Catholics paid homage to St. Patrick.... I mean, we fought for almost 2 hours on the subject and almost came to blows over this shit... pussy :1orglaugh

That's nothing. My brother.... here's the story:

Back in the 70's there was this devout ultra-religious minister down in the southern US who was urging everyone to burn their rock 'n roll albums. One of his reasons for it was printed in the paper, him saying "it has a jungle beat that is unholy"...... can you imagine?

Now, at the time I'm like 14 years old or so, my older brother and I are in his car talking about this foo. My brother was very militantly religious back then, and I mention the Led Zep song Ramble On, specifically the lyric "I'll just keep on rolling along with the faith from the lord above."
I cited that song as an example of some rock songs being good in the way of spiritual beliefs, you know?

He argued with me, and said that that line could be....get this....... it COULD BE referring to the devil, because some "evil-doers" revere lucifer as "the lord above."

To this day I remember that BS from him, that twisted fundamentalist christian hardline view of the world he tried to infect me with, and I just fucking shake my head every time I think of it. What a complete crock of shit those types of people spew, and I don't know who is more unfortunate, those who spew it or those who eat it up with a plastic shovel.

Thankfully, in his older years my brother has become a lot more temperate, tolerant, and sensible in his attitudes about religion and in respecting the beliefs of others.

FunForOne 05-29-2005 07:54 PM

Same old shit. Fucking conservatives all pissed off about symbols.


The indians are trying change the mascot names in sports.

The atheists want to take the cross off the symbols in Los Angeles and change the pledge of alliegence and remove ten comandment statues from courthouses.

The blacks are pissed about the rebel flag in mississippi and want to change the mascot of a 100 year old university.

Why the hell do they spend all that money fighting something as stupid as symbols.

Fucking religious right!!!!!!!!

Paraskass 05-29-2005 07:56 PM

only in the US of A

Rochard 05-29-2005 08:05 PM

The name of the team came from an old legend......

The mythical Jersey Devil -- with batlike wings, a forked tail and oversized claws -- was said to terrorize Pine Barrens dwellers in the 18th century after being born the 13th child to poor south Jerseyans and morphing into a dinosaurlike beast.

BradM 05-29-2005 08:14 PM

Some people are only alive because it's illegal to kill them.

uno 05-29-2005 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
Next he'll lobby to force people to stop saying "dust devil" out west.

And those damned evil Dirt Devil vacuums.... forgetaboutit.

The only thing grossly in need of censoring is right wing religious nuts, as in stamping them out.

Otherwise they proliferate like cancer.

I could have sworn you were on "their side" about most issues a year or 2 ago. It's insane. Who would elect an asshat like that. I'm going to look up his district and see if I can call anyone I know there to dump this asshole at the next earliest convenience.

uno 05-29-2005 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon
This is like my dubmbass ex brother in law. He is Irish, as well as Catholic... and he was SINCERELY under the belief that Catholics paid homage to St. Patrick.... I mean, we fought for almost 2 hours on the subject and almost came to blows over this shit... pussy :1orglaugh

I almost got beat in high school for telling some religious nut that Jesus was a jew.

Screaming 05-29-2005 09:16 PM

ohh for heavens sake

uno 05-29-2005 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FunForOne
Same old shit. Fucking conservatives all pissed off about symbols.


The indians are trying change the mascot names in sports.

The atheists want to take the cross off the symbols in Los Angeles and change the pledge of alliegence and remove ten comandment statues from courthouses.

The blacks are pissed about the rebel flag in mississippi and want to change the mascot of a 100 year old university.

Why the hell do they spend all that money fighting something as stupid as symbols.

Fucking religious right!!!!!!!!

Should spots teams change their names? No. Get over it and quit being a baby.(not directed at you) Big deal, its a charicature of a bad stereotype.

The LA thing is ridiculous. The 10 commandments have no place in a court house. The Pledge of Allegiance didn't originally have under god in it. It was an addition and there is no reason not to remove it.

The rebel flag is a symbol of ignorance, oppression, and most things that the south seems to hold as values. Should they be forced to change it? Nah. Let them display their ignorance for all to see.

GatorB 05-29-2005 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FunForOne
The indians are trying change the mascot names in sports.

Ok I'm part Indian and if you can't see why SOME name logos need to change you are retarded. I'll buy a sports team and name it the Negros and my logo will be a Al Jolsen black face character eating a piece of watermellon. Would that be ok?

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The atheists want to take the cross off the symbols in Los Angeles and change the pledge of alliegence and remove ten comandment statues from courthouses.
I'm also an athiest. And if your read the ORIGINAL pledge it doesn't have UNDER GOD in it. Try getting your facts first. The pledge had been around for over 60 years before CONGRESS put in UNDER GOD as a way of defeating communists( I know WTF how does that defeat communists? ). Also it brigns up a 2nd issue. Since when is CONGRESS allowed to change an artists original work? Can some future congress say in 40 years change the way ET ends because they'd rather have the alien stay with Elliot? That may sound silly but think about it. Someone wrote the pledge, Congress changed it when they had no legal right to do so.

The jesus freaks want creationism taught in school soon they'll want Chirstianity taught in school. Public schools are paid for by PUBLIC tax $$$( meaning MINE ) and if you want you kid to know about creationism or Jesus here's a tip, TAKE THEM TO CHURCH. If public school is full of bad athiests then PUT THEM IN A PRIVATE CHRISTIAN SCHOOL.

As far as the 10 Comandments. Well as an athiest I'm REALLY going to feel like I'm getting FAIR treatment seeing that. Would a balck man feellike he was getting a fair trial if teh judge came inwearing his KKK outfit? How about a Jew and the judge has a swastika tatoo on his hand?

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The blacks are pissed about the rebel flag in mississippi and want to change the mascot of a 100 year old university.
The rebel flag is the flag of the CSA that's Confederate States of America and was an ENEMY of the USA. The CSA killed over 300,000 Americans and another 300,000 of their own killed. So in essence the CSA killed over 600,00 Americans in total. Yeah let celebrate that. What's next, putting Nazi flags and rising sun flags everywhere?[/QUOTE]

I guess people in the majority fail to see the other side since they are in charge of everything.

Mr.Fiction 05-29-2005 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FunForOne
Fucking religious right!!!!!!!!

The right wing are the new enforcers of political correctness. If you support the far right, you support political correctness.

dig420 05-29-2005 11:18 PM

Conservatives have an established tendency to place more importance on symbols than on the substance of the symbol in question. Hence their overly fawning reverance to the flag while they're trying to subvert the national qualities the flag represents. Freedom from a tyrannical govt, freedom of the press, speech etc

It plays well in hicksville.

dig420 05-29-2005 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FunForOne
Same old shit. Fucking conservatives all pissed off about symbols.


The indians are trying change the mascot names in sports.

The atheists want to take the cross off the symbols in Los Angeles and change the pledge of alliegence and remove ten comandment statues from courthouses.

The blacks are pissed about the rebel flag in mississippi and want to change the mascot of a 100 year old university.

Why the hell do they spend all that money fighting something as stupid as symbols.

Fucking religious right!!!!!!!!

how can you be so stupidly, hamhandedly wrong ALL THE TIME and never ONCE realize it?

CDSmith 05-29-2005 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uno
I could have sworn you were on "their side" about most issues a year or 2 ago. It's insane. Who would elect an asshat like that. I'm going to look up his district and see if I can call anyone I know there to dump this asshole at the next earliest convenience.

I've never shown support for this aspect of the far right. I support the conservative platform in certain ways.... emphasis on certain ways, as in certain ways only. I hope that's clear enough. One can be conservative in part and still agree with many points the lib side makes.

One thing I have never been known for is supporting any form of increasing censorship, or for those who think it is their mission to control what others can and can not watch, listen to or otherwise enjoy. If you've seen a post from me that indicates otherwise EVER by all means point it out.

uno 05-29-2005 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
I've never shown support for this aspect of the far right. I support the conservative platform in certain ways.... emphasis on certain ways, as in certain ways only. I hope that's clear enough. One can be conservative in part and still agree with many points the lib side makes.

One thing I have never been known for is supporting any form of increasing censorship, or for those who think it is their mission to control what others can and can not watch, listen to or otherwise enjoy. If you've seen a post from me that indicates otherwise EVER by all means point it out.

My bad for my memory falsely painting you with so broad a brush. :thumbsup

FunForOne 05-30-2005 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420
how can you be so stupidly, hamhandedly wrong ALL THE TIME and never ONCE realize it?



I think I did a pretty good job of getting liberals to demand the change of symbol based on historical events, in a thread, where they are making fun of someone wanting to change a sybmol that was based on a historical event.



How can everything go over your head, ALL THE TIME and you never ONCE realize it?

:1orglaugh

FunForOne 05-30-2005 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction
The right wing are the new enforcers of political correctness. If you support the far right, you support political correctness.



It would be really funny to read an explanation of that statement. I promise you that for a million dollars I wouldn't even know how to begin to write that. :1orglaugh



How can you guys continue to argue against yourselves and not ever catch on?

FunForOne 05-30-2005 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
Ok I'm part Indian and if you can't see why SOME name logos need to change you are retarded.

"This is an age where symbolism is very important," said Stanley, a Baptist deacon whose resolution to rename the team is to be introduced in the Assembly next month."

I think you guys are on the same page! :1orglaugh

Manowar 05-30-2005 10:59 AM

thats fucking stupid. Religion sucks

who 05-30-2005 11:01 AM

it should read "Under God, Bhudda, Allah, Ourselves, All dem Indian Gods, etc."

FunForOne 05-30-2005 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by .?.
All dem Indian Gods, etc."



Now that would be politically correct

wjxxx 05-30-2005 11:17 AM

OWN3D :1orglaugh

JFK 05-30-2005 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
Next he'll lobby to force people to stop saying "dust devil" out west.

And those damned evil Dirt Devil vacuums.... forgetaboutit.

The only thing grossly in need of censoring is right wing religious nuts, as in stamping them out.

Otherwise they proliferate like cancer.

I am going to hold a Secret ceremony with my "Dirt Devil" in a few minutes! It will involve a lot of down and dirty depraved sucking :1orglaugh

GatorB 05-30-2005 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FunForOne
"This is an age where symbolism is very important," said Stanley, a Baptist deacon whose resolution to rename the team is to be introduced in the Assembly next month."

I think you guys are on the same page! :1orglaugh

Are you stupid? If you can't see the difference then you are.

Can you not see why indian might find this racist?

http://www.alamoflag.com/alamoflag/I...58301_full.jpg

Would it be ok for me to have a sports team with this as a logo? Of course in my logo he would be eating watermellon.

http://www.thebluehammer.com/images/aljolson.jpg

FunForOne 05-30-2005 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
Are you stupid? If you can't see the difference then you are.

Can you not see why indian might find this racist?

http://www.alamoflag.com/alamoflag/I...58301_full.jpg

Would it be ok for me to have a sports team with this as a logo? Of course in my logo he would be eating watermellon.

http://www.thebluehammer.com/images/aljolson.jpg


I dont care one way or the other.

I just realized that in the grand scheme of things, you and that guy are fighting for the same thing and you took the time to start a thread calling him retarded.

Does it really matter who you think is stupid after that?

Redrob 05-30-2005 11:46 AM

You should visit beautiful Waco, Texas for a really interesting vacation.

GiantGnome 05-30-2005 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK
I am going to hold a Secret ceremony with my "Dirt Devil" in a few minutes! It will involve a lot of down and dirty depraved sucking :1orglaugh

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GiantGnome 05-30-2005 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
Are you stupid? If you can't see the difference then you are.

Can you not see why indian might find this racist?

http://www.alamoflag.com/alamoflag/I...58301_full.jpg

Would it be ok for me to have a sports team with this as a logo? Of course in my logo he would be eating watermellon.

http://www.thebluehammer.com/images/aljolson.jpg

Gator while I can understand where you are coming from, dont you think Indian groups wanting some things like the Atlanta Braves tommyhawk chop and Florida State Seminoles chant banned is a little extreme?

FunForOne 05-30-2005 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiantGnome
Gator while I can understand where you are coming from, dont you think Indian groups wanting some things like the Atlanta Braves tommyhawk chop and Florida State Seminoles chant banned is a little extreme?



In all seriousness, his statment can be sumarized as:

If its offensive to me - it should be changed.

If its offensive to someone else, they are retarded.

dig420 05-30-2005 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FunForOne
I dont care one way or the other.

I just realized that in the grand scheme of things, you and that guy are fighting for the same thing and you took the time to start a thread calling him retarded.

Does it really matter who you think is stupid after that?

hey dumbshit, did you see the picture he took the trouble to display for you? Can you or can you not see a difference between the smiling redface sambo indian and a picture of the new jersey devil?

wjxxx 05-30-2005 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FunForOne
In all seriousness, his statment can be sumarized as:

If its offensive to me - it should be changed.

If its offensive to someone else, they are retarded.


exactly.

FunForOne 05-30-2005 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420
hey dumbshit, did you see the picture he took the trouble to display for you? Can you or can you not see a difference between the smiling redface sambo indian and a picture of the new jersey devil?



Yea, one is offensive and one is not offensive. I get it.


Tell the dumbfuck in new jersey that him and his constituants are retarded and they are not offended.

Make sure you tell him that the stuff that offends you is not up for discussion, just the stuff that offends them.

FunForOne 05-30-2005 12:12 PM

Ok fuck it, let me go ahead and ask:

Do you fucking kids want to get embarassed and owned?


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